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Ismene2

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Seen some china white advertised at £100 a gram. Supposed to be better quality and no fentanyl. Is good heroin any better than crap heroin ie is it like LSD where the purity has a big effect on the trip?

Ive tried "afghan creme" at £60 a gram and wasnt impressed at all.
 
In the US, the term "China white" has been the nickname for fentanyl since the late 1980s. It was a nickname for stuff sold as heroin, but was fentanyl. This is way before people even knew what fentanyl was. So the term stuck in pop culture through the decades, however people kept using it to refer to heroin, not fentanyl sold as heroin.

White heroin does exist, usually comes from Southeast Asia... but don't trust anyone man

Ismene2 said:
Ive tried "afghan creme" at £60 a gram and wasnt impressed at all.
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then I'd say you got ripped off, or you just don't like heroin?
 
I would't trust it. Seen these Telegram channels that can get anything but of course they can't. Fuck knows what they are putting in the gear and if its fentanyl cut by some idiot then you could be a goner. Can't even trust brown in most places now.
 
Ismene2 said:
ls good heroin any better than crap heroin ie is it like LSD where the purity has a big effect on the trip?

Ive tried "afghan creme" at £60 a gram and wasnt impressed at all.
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Yes there is a huge variation in the quality of heroin - which has a huge effect on the subjective effects experienced. (I'd have thought this would have been obvious?) Just check out the long running heroin thread.

You're not still trying to snort it are you?

You'd be much better of vapeing / chasing off foil, as only one specific grade is snortable.

I guess I was lucky in as much as an experienced user was buying for me when he bought for himself, and although he was probably creaming off some profit from me, at least I'd get his verdict on teh gear each time.

Although tbh even though he said it was top of the range gear, it still didn't do very much for me.

I think it's known as the Trainspotting effect.
 
^ street heroin is very rarely much more than 25-40% at best. And often has active cuts. Doesn't really matter how experienced the user who aquired it for you is imo because that is just what the dealers are selling.

Ismene2 said:
Seen some china white advertised at £100 a gram. Supposed to be better quality and no fentanyl. Is good heroin any better than crap heroin ie is it like LSD where the purity has a big effect on the trip?

Ive tried "afghan creme" at £60 a gram and wasnt impressed at all.
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I too saw a non domestic listing like this if that's what you're referring to? It's proper SEA #4 by the look of it (same style wrapping as the stuff they get in Aus).

The quality of UK #3 varies greatly online or local. Generally online will be better quality. But there is still plenty of shit on there.

Best thing to do if you are concerned about what quality you're getting would be Wedinos test it when you get it before consuming.
 
elgoucho9 said:
^ street heroin is very rarely much more than 25-40% at best. And often has active cuts. Doesn't really matter how experienced the user who aquired it for you is imo because that is just what the dealers are selling.
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The stuff we acquired was off the DNM. Personally I found it useful to have someone experienced to be able to advise how good the gear was. As I couldn't discern any effects at that stage I wouldnt have known the difference.

It seems to me that some people are just wired to enjoy heroin straight away and some aren't..

But no doubt anyone could acquire a tatste for it, if they persist long enough, and then obviously the physically addictive issues wouldnt be too far behind.
 
Is good heroin any better than shit heroin in effects? Snorted heroin - think i last did it 12 to 18 months ago? So that shows you how impressed i was.
 
Never used Heroin, but the stuff I saw was consinstant light brown. Good quality according to the ones who had it.

Most typical was the scent not vinegar at all what I expected, more like an spice powder.
 
Bleaney said:
The stuff we acquired was off the DNM. Personally I found it useful to have someone experienced to be able to advise how good the gear was. As I couldn't discern any effects at that stage I wouldnt have known the difference.

It seems to me that some people are just wired to enjoy heroin straight away and some aren't..

But no doubt anyone could acquire a tatste for it, if they persist long enough, and then obviously the physically addictive issues wouldnt be too far behind.
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I see bro. Yeah it's a weird one. The first batch I ever had was probably the most euphoric, but i didn't feel the compulsion to use again after. I used sporadically once a year for 5 years. Then not at all for another 5. It wasn't til life circumstances got dull i found the compulsion to use again, then ran into some slight issues, but pulled myself back out again quickly.
I think the more often you do it the more alluring it becomes as your pain receptors grow to enjoy the feeling more and more.

Ismene2 said:
Is good heroin any better than shit heroin in effects? Snorted heroin - think i last did it 12 to 18 months ago? So that shows you how impressed i was.
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Sniffing #3 has a very low bioavailability compared to smoking.
 
Bleaney said:
The stuff we acquired was off the DNM. Personally I found it useful to have someone experienced to be able to advise how good the gear was. As I couldn't discern any effects at that stage I wouldnt have known the difference.

It seems to me that some people are just wired to enjoy heroin straight away and some aren't..

But no doubt anyone could acquire a tatste for it, if they persist long enough, and then obviously the physically addictive issues wouldnt be too far behind.
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The first time I smoked a five pound bag it was like finding God -= I still remember the night in so much detail.
 
Bleaney said:
The stuff we acquired was off the DNM. Personally I found it useful to have someone experienced to be able to advise how good the gear was. As I couldn't discern any effects at that stage I wouldnt have known the difference.

It seems to me that some people are just wired to enjoy heroin straight away and some aren't..

But no doubt anyone could acquire a tatste for it, if they persist long enough, and then obviously the physically addictive issues wouldnt be too far behind.
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I used to use but now I Smoke gear.I'm lucky enough to be in a part of the world where it's usually #4. I would put a bit (.01g or less) into a reciprocal and add a drop of water. Good gear has an unmistakable reaction smell. But here pretty consistent. But have tested recently and showed + for fent. Straight from the brick. UOGLOBE Has been apparently counterfeit by nth Korea.
 
Assume that it's fentanyl or some analog and dose low. If it works for 30-60 minutes and it's not itchy then you've got fentanyl. If it works for longer and itches then you may have diamorphine HCl (with or without a bit of fentanyl).
 
Yes, the highest purity #4 untouched from the bricks they come so nicely wrapped in and stamped with that Golden Triangle seal of goodness (DOUBLEUGLOBE) or in rarer cases also from the Golden Triangle the Mahjong stamp (slightly slightly higher purity than the already high purity DOUBLEUGLOBE is much better than the best of the best #3 Afghan heroin.)

It is noticeable, very much. During the manufacturing process (I can't go into details here as it's against BLUA) but to put simply when you reach the stage that determines if the next step will result in a yield of #3 or if you choose the other way which will result in a yield of more refined and much higher purity #4 - if one chooses #3 then even if every further step is performed perfectly and no errors occur by the chemist the highest heroin content of #3 can physically only be 50% of the active substance that being your heroin. Naturally, it will usually be a bit less due to small adulterants as it's usually not made by highly educated pharmacists with A-grade laboratory equipment.

However #4 we usually see at least 90% purity of the constant Golden Triangle supplied bricks. This has been confirmed many times over many years during the Australian Federal Police laboratory analysis done on large seizures coming into the country.

It's noticeably different and better 👍
 
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In my experience in NY in the 90's, China White was SEA #4 heroin not Fet, there was also Indian White #4 heroin which was considered superior and South American whites which were not.

How this connoisseurship was acquired buying stamps at the corner is another thing, it was mostly lore but press reports of busts bore out Chinese involvement in the H trade at that time.
 
In the UK, 'China White' i.e. high purity white heroin was common in the 1970s but became increasingly rare in the early 1980s until Afghan brown 'smoking heroin' took over because it was significantly cheaper.

There have been scattered reports of high-purity white heroin showing up in the UK from time to time and it's unclear where it originated.

But it was very similar to medical diamorphine hydrochloride. I sense there is a small market for people prepared to pay the high price because the stuff can be snorted (a la Pulp Fiction). Generally purity is >90% and the remainder is caffeine which is added to lower the melting point and allow it to be smoked.

But I can imagine all manner of things being sold as white heroin and would be very cautious indeed. Even presumptive testing is not a certification of purity.

I should add that the purity of brown heroin has been increasing for years. The last time I asked a HR worker, they stated that many samples were around 50% pure.

So in theory, you are getting the same amount of H for a given amount of £ if you choose the brown or the white.

But I have to say, messing with opioids ends badly for a lot of people. I would hate to learn of another BLer ending up in the shrine because they got snidey gear.
 
Bear in mind that multiple people died in the UK years ago because some dickheads were selling fentanyl as "#4 China White".

www.bbc.co.uk

Dark web drug supermarket duo from Huddersfield jailed

Ross Brennan, 28, and Aarron Gledhill, 30, sold drugs via their online supermarket "Savage Henry".
www.bbc.co.uk

If you're going to try this stuff, use test strips at the very least. Preferably get it tested with a mass spectrometer incase it's cut with some opioid the strips don't detect

Even if it's uncut, the white heroin can be very very strong, use extreme caution with how much you do
 
Ismene2 said:
Forgot about this thread - it wasnt china white it was nitazenes
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I’ve seen several listings for china white that in the details say they are a zene of some. 🤮 No, it’s not heroin, and don’t you dare list it as such! #4 is the best, far superior to dirty feeling, more sedating, weaker #3. I’ve had lab pure, whole brick and virtually untouched. I was shocked to find out it’s still available some places. The few sellers who claimed to have it in continental Europe just had regular shitty, pale #3, and the two orders I made from the UK from sellers claiming to have it, never came.
 
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