Opioids Cheap Remedy for WD Please?

[MsPilly]

I've had a heavy opiate habit for 12 years. Hydros, Oxys, Opanas, Percs. I can't get anything until Wednesday (3 days from now). I last dosed on Friday. Physically, I'm not too bad right now as I've injested 20 of the 2mg Imodium. I took a 50mg Trazodone today which didn't do anything but make me irritated. I'm looking for some home remedies to get me thru the next 3 days. I want anything but sobriety. I even started researching household items to inhale for a buzz. Please help.

 

[missmeyet?]

Well which is it, are you wanting remedy for withdrawal or are you wanting something to get a buzz?

 

[Freedom In Truth]

Sorry, man. As one who isn't willing to go through the hell of w/d I know no home remedies. I've heard LOTS of immodium will help as it's actually an opiate that can't get through the blood-brain barrier but somehow lots of it taken somehow lets some get past? That's something I've only heard, not tried. I also heard immodium is safe in large quantities.
I've heard pot helps and drinking heavily.

I am a methadone patient. I don't know how you feel about methadone, but if you'll go to a local methadone clinic they'll take you in. Mine is closed today and Memorial Day (tomorrow). Of course methadone will kick your w/d right out the window. I dont know if you have any suboxone docs where you live or if they're open on Memorial Day, either, but that's another way.

I don't know if heavy drinking helps but I've heard that alcohol has a clinging effect on opiate receptors somehow.

You can go to your ER & fake an injury or go to your local psychiatric hospital and tell them the truth, which is something I have in my back pocket in case of emergency.

Wish I knew a home remedy you could use but I don't.

Opiate withdrawal feels like it'll kill you but the reality is it won't. In most cases it's harmless.

 

[deidara]

remedies for withdrawal: lopermide(immodium) if you cant get a hold of and subutex/suboxone. also smoking weed helps alot IMO also muscle relaxers like soma, baclofen, etc... If your looking for a buzz.... try any of the above lol (cept the lope). Or if you really cant get anything like than if your desperate to high you could take some triple c's...

 

[Freedom In Truth]

I missed that you have taken 20 immodiums. Are doing that for runs or to help w/d or both?

If you've taken 20 and are doing ok having last dosed on friday it sounds like immodium might be something you should go to the store and stock up on.

You are also living proof perhaps of the rumor I heard that LOTS of immodium helps with withdrawal. Keep shovelling those diarrhea pills in you if it helps and look forward to Wednesday! Only two days away!

 

[T. Calderone]

Don't try using household items ffs. If you took 20 immodium that should help greatly with withdrawals. So you have to go a couple days with no buzz. Like Freedom said, it won't kill you though you may feel uncomfortable. Also you can use the bluelight search engine for help. This topic's been written about a thousand times at least.

 

[deidara]

Don't try using household items ffs. If you took 20 immodium that should help greatly with withdrawals. So you have to go a couple days with no buzz. Like Freedom said, it won't kill you though you may feel uncomfortable. Also you can use the bluelight search engine for help. This topic's been written about a thousand times at least.

exactly, the withdrawals wont kill you, but the household products might (esp if you huff)

 

[Lightning-Nl]

Alcohol helps a lot. Weed is also good. Some cigarettes (nicotine) is an indirect endorphin agonist which should help immensely. Amphetamines have shown to cause endorphin agonism so stimulant meds may help. Loperamide is also great, but you already know that.....

Menthol is a K-Opioid receptor agonist and could possibly help as well. Also I don't know what state you live in (I'm assuming Philadelphia given your name) - but 33 states have OTC codeine available at locally owned pharmacies (something that isn't a chain.) I couldn't find the information myself, but I believe that you can get some Cheratussin (Codeine containing cough syrup) in Philadelphia. Just go to a locally owned pharmacy and ask the pharmacist directly if they will sell you some - specifically ask "Will you sell me some Cheratussin?"

If you can get it - it won't be much though. Maybe 150MG's of codeine for the entire bottle and the laws are you can only get one bottle every 48 hours.

 

[MsPilly]

Both if that makes any sense. I would rather catch a buzz. I'm not trying to get off the meds. Looking for something to hold me over for a few days so I don't feel like jumping out of my skin.

Sorry, man. As one who isn't willing to go through the hell of w/d I know no home remedies. I've heard LOTS of immodium will help as it's actually an opiate that can't get through the blood-brain barrier but somehow lots of it taken somehow lets some get past? That's something I've only heard, not tried. I also heard immodium is safe in large quantities.
I've heard pot helps and drinking heavily.

I am a methadone patient. I don't know how you feel about methadone, but if you'll go to a local methadone clinic they'll take you in. Mine is closed today and Memorial Day (tomorrow). Of course methadone will kick your w/d right out the window. I dont know if you have any suboxone docs where you live or if they're open on Memorial Day, either, but that's another way.

I don't know if heavy drinking helps but I've heard that alcohol has a clinging effect on opiate receptors somehow.

You can go to your ER & fake an injury or go to your local psychiatric hospital and tell them the truth, which is something I have in my back pocket in case of emergency.

Wish I knew a home remedy you could use but I don't.

Opiate withdrawal feels like it'll kill you but the reality is it won't. In most cases it's harmless.

I've tried Methadone in the past and I hate it. I can't get any Subs. I really can't get any opiate replacement right now. I'm very uncomfortable as far as mentally. Physically that Imodium is still working. i'm not a drinker but maybe will drink a few beers tonight.

remedies for withdrawal: lopermide(immodium) if you cant get a hold of and subutex/suboxone. also smoking weed helps alot IMO also muscle relaxers like soma, baclofen, etc... If your looking for a buzz.... try any of the above lol (cept the lope). Or if you really cant get anything like than if your desperate to high you could take some triple c's...

I have Flexirils on hand but they put me to sleep. I need to be able to function during the day. I don't smoke weed. I haven't smoked in 7 years.

Alcohol helps a lot. Weed is also good. Some cigarettes (nicotine) is an indirect endorphin agonist which should help immensely. Amphetamines have shown to cause endorphin agonism so stimulant meds may help. Loperamide is also great, but you already know that.....

Menthol is a K-Opioid receptor agonist and could possibly help as well. Also I don't know what state you live in (I'm assuming Philadelphia given your name) - but 33 states have OTC codeine available at locally owned pharmacies (something that isn't a chain.) I couldn't find the information myself, but I believe that you can get some Cheratussin (Codeine containing cough syrup) in Philadelphia. Just go to a locally owned pharmacy and ask the pharmacist directly if they will sell you some - specifically ask "Will you sell me some Cheratussin?"

If you can get it - it won't be much though. Maybe 150MG's of codeine for the entire bottle and the laws are you can only get one bottle every 48 hours.

I'm in NY and it's impossible to get any narcotic w/out a script. I'll be great on Wednesday but getting there seems impossible.

I missed that you have taken 20 immodiums. Are doing that for runs or to help w/d or both?

If you've taken 20 and are doing ok having last dosed on friday it sounds like immodium might be something you should go to the store and stock up on.

You are also living proof perhaps of the rumor I heard that LOTS of immodium helps with withdrawal. Keep shovelling those diarrhea pills in you if it helps and look forward to Wednesday! Only two days away!

Yes Imodium does help with the physical wd but in no way does it get u even close to high at all. Before I took it, I was reading all kinds of things that it COULD get u high so u know in my head that meant I was going to get high. So disappointing. Actually disgusting that I took so many in the hopes of getting high!

Don't try using household items ffs. If you took 20 immodium that should help greatly with withdrawals. So you have to go a couple days with no buzz. Like Freedom said, it won't kill you though you may feel uncomfortable. Also you can use the bluelight search engine for help. This topic's been written about a thousand times at least.

I know, I was hoping somebody had some new info on it. And I will not be trying to get high off of gasoline n stuff. That was a dumb idea any damn ways. i'm not even going to try it.

 

[Lightning-Nl]

I'm in NY and it's impossible to get any narcotic w/out a script.

Hate to say this, but have you ever thought of going to your care physician and telling them you "have" pain? Tell them you have extreme pain in, around, and behind you knee. The doctor should then feel around your knee and make the conclusion that you must have a cyst (fluid buildup) in the joint. They'll then tell you that you'll have to see a specialist to get the fluid removed.

X-ray's can't detect this (not that they'll even ask you take an x-ray) and cysts are extremely common so they shouldn't even think twice about it.

He/She will probably say that they'll give you some codeine for the pain. If they don't say that, before they leave the room tell them "This is extremely painful, can you give me something for the pain?" Make sure to say it EXACTLY as I just said and then let them recommend something first. If you're fine with codeine, don't say anything after that. But if you are looking for something stronger than codeine - tell them you are ALLERGIC to codeine (since it actually is possible to be allergic to codeine) and have gotten adverse effects from it before.

Pending on the doctor they'll probably one of two things. Either "Tough luck that's what you're getting." or they'll say "Eh......I guess I'll give you some Vicodin."
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In regards to the Loperamide (Imodium), Concurrent administration of P-glycoprotein inhibitors such as quinidine and its other isomer quinine (although much higher doses must be used), PPIs like omeprazole (Prilosec OTC) and even black pepper (piperine as the active ingredient) could potentially allow loperamide to cross the blood–brain barrier. It should however be noted that only quinidine with loperamide was found to produce respiratory depression, indicative of central opioid action.

Yes Imodium does help with the physical wd but in no way does it get u even close to high at all. Before I took it, I was reading all kinds of things that it COULD get u high so u know in my head that meant I was going to get high. So disappointing. Actually disgusting that I took so many in the hopes of getting high!

You have been using opiates for a very long time and probably have a huge tolerance to them. Loperamide does get people high.....if they have a low to nonexistent opiate tolerance.

 

[MsPilly]

Thank u everybody for ur advice and support. I managed to get 20 Hydro 10s (the yellow Watsons) a few hours so I feel somewhat normal again. These won't last me more than one day so the hunt is on again. Thank u again

 

[Ninae]

You sound a bit crazy, but I feel sympathy for you.

I'd say the best are:

1. Alcohol. It helps more than you imagine. Even how much disdain you have for it.
2. Loperamide. I think I needed to take almost a bottle of pills, but it gave me a decent opiate high.
3. Valerian. 2-3 grams of high quality capsules can mimic benzos to some degree, or get you out of withdrawal.

 

[MsPilly]

Yes I am a bit crazy I can admit. Jus been a drug user for a long time I guess. The lopes did not give me a high at all! I'm jealous. I woulda loved to catch a buzz off it. I have heard that alcohol is helpful. And what is Valerian? I'm too lazy to google and I would rather get a personal opinion/experience. Is it OTC or do I need a script?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

real valerian root in its natural form (not pill form) really works as a relaxant and sleep aid. I was very surprised how effective it was. After my initial sample, ive ordered a much bigger amount. I make tea out of it. It tastes good to me, but it leaves a smelly socks smell behind.

 

[MsPilly]

mydrugbuddy, lemme first say I ur name. Ok so Valerian root is all natural but it helps. That's good to know for the next time I am having wd. Now, does it get u high at all? Or jus relax u. Obviously I would love to find some all natural or OTC substance that will get me high but I think that may be too good to be true. If there was anything all natural (besides some weed) that could get u high or close to an opiate high, I would hope somebody would tell me about it! Where can I find Valerian root? supermarket?

 

[twotoomany]

Seed tea can work, but its a dodgy option at best. No way to know potency. Supermarket seeds won't work either. You'll need a bulk source.

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

Loperamide, Clonidine, and Ambien...

Those three are powerful in getting rid of the kicks, shits, and lack of sleep...

 

[xxxyyy]

Loperamide, Clonidine, and Ambien...

Those three are powerful in getting rid of the kicks, shits, and lack of sleep...

amen to that. although i'd replace zolpidem with something more long acting like temazepam but that's just personal preference. also gabapentin/pregabalin are incredibly helpful.

 

[Ninae]

No, Valerian can't get you "high" from my experience. Just relax you and help you sleep. And if you're in benzo WD it can get rid of all the symptomps aside from some irritation and strong heartbeat (which is quite valuable considering how bad it can be).

Actually, one time I ran out of benzos I used alcohol for a couple of days and then Valerian, and actually didn't really suffer at all (compared to how it can be). It suprised me as toxic alcohol is the last thing I want to put into my body when I'm ill from benzo WD, but you need to take it before it sets in to avoid it.

I know it can be dangerous and is probably not a good idea for everyone, but I seem to get away with it. Almost like you've taken benzos or not much difference. Not that I enjoy alcohol, but it beats being in withdrawal or sitting at the ER begging a doctor for pillls (which is about the worst thing you can experience).

 

[T. Calderone]

OP went through 20 hydro 10's in the past day? But they only last a few hours?
Rehab might be a better option for you, seriously. Otherwise, you'll be perpetually "on the hunt"