Cheap Amphetamine

[Jabberwocky]

Friend has been getting this speed dropped off every so often

Tenner a gram so you can see where I'm going with this already probably....


I've tried a bit and a couple of lines doesn't do much - couple lines that size of proper phet would have me awake and rushing for hours

After a good few lines you do start rushing. You have energy, slight euphoria, urge to do things and chat and there really isn't much of a comedown that I've noticed after it wears off - you just want a little more.

sleep afterwards doesn't seem too hard after a bong or two


So what the hell is this shit?

I am extremely sensitive to caffeine - if I have a coffee after about 1pm I won't be sleeping that night, I'll be tossing and turning all night till 3-4am

so it isn't cut with caffeine but for a tenner a gram it's SOMETHING other than pure phet


Any ideas? Maybe something like 5 percent amphetamine and an inactive cut? It's a white powder. One lot he got delivered was slightly yellowish and sticky but most other times it's just a dry white powder and he will easily do a gram or two in in a day and through the night

that can't be real amphetamine can it?

 

[Shambles]

"Please tell me what is in my random white powder" threads are not allowed as there is obviously no way anybody can tell you. But, FWIW, that sounds exactly like most of the "speed" I've had over the last several years. With one or two exceptions, it's all been dirt cheap (fiver a gramme is not unusual - someone local was even selling it for a fiver an eighth a couple years back) and utterly dire in terms of quality. Folk taking several grammes a night was not unusual, and being able to sleep fine the same night was also not unusual. AFAIK it does contain small amounts of amphetamine but is ridiculously heavily cut. The standard cut has always been glucose for bulk but whatever the solvents used to give it the excessive chemical stench which convinces so many as being a mark of quality I couldn't say and is probably nothing in the least bit desirable. Water is also often added to make it more pastey as, again, many people (mistakenly) seem to believe that is a sign of quality.

tl;dr - most likely just bogstandard dogshit-grade speed but there's really no way for anybody here to know. If you're really interested you could always send a sample to Wedinos for testing - that's really the only way to find out what you are actually ingesting.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Cheers mate I understand it's a bit impossible to say exactly what it is

It doesn't really have much of a smell to it at all

I was speaking to the guy he gets it from, trying to get it uncut if I pay more and he said he could get me the stuff he gets if I pay a bit more - would that be worth it or most likely just been stepped on one less time and still pretty dump?

not sure why this stuff is so popular. fair enough it's cheap but you're snorting grams and grams of random crap

 

[Jackal]

I used get tenner a gram speed in west London when I still stayed in London. But it was stinky and damp, and fucking strong. Guy said a gram but it was always a heaped teaspoon, fucking loads!

I don't take speed anymore:-

 

[PlayHard]

this is just bog standard crap what most of the country are being sold on a daily basis by some shady wheeler whos no doubt eating the good stuff himself & passing out total junk. can usually tell the shady chap.. tends to have no teeth and a baggie full of the cunt, offering the odd spoonful out when he spikes hes house guests coffee.

 

[SKL]

Sounds like standard low quality euroamp, we can't really tell you what's in it, but it's definitely not an uncommon thing to be cut to shit, I had my tangles with it while I was in the part of the world. On the other hand, high-quality euroamp, i.e. racemic amphetamine base, is possibly my favorite amphetamine, so yeah, I guess it's all a matter of sources.

 

[Ismene]

Go pink champagne or go home.

You will need about 10 grams of it to feel as you do after a mild cup of coffee tho...

 

[SmokingAces]

I've come to the conclusion anything that is damp, paste, you are being ripped off. It's not amphetamine freebase your being sold is it? It's just sulphate crystal that's not been washed properly still full of solvents and probably some caffeine. If you wash that so it becomes sulphate crystal most of the stuff people think is rocketfuel is only really 30-40%, the stuff that gets tauted as 73%. Better off just buy meth.

 

[lurching]

Never really bothered evaporating the solvents, I'd just dry it until it was easily cut up in not-too-fluffy lines. Five euro per gram was and still is going price for standard 40-60%ish percent amphetamine here in netherlands. Larger balls go for stupidly low prices, 250g for 500, not in the least because it's a pretty messy chore weighing off single grams and stuffing them in seals when it's still so damp. I kinda miss the stuff but I have a dexedrine prescription now--covered by insurance. Dex feels far smoother than (racemic) street speed to me, though less buzzy, which IME isn't a bad thing with frequent use.

 

[Treacle]

The stuff I get is £20 for ten grammes. It's sold as uncut paste, around 72% pure, which means that when it dries, it's pure. Even with what I'd consider quite a large tolerance, a decent line will get me flying, and keep me up all night. It's hands down the best speed I've ever had. Mates think it's absolutely amazing. I wouldn't dare go above a third or even a quarter of a gramme, in one day, because it's that strong. It's rushy, euphoric, makes my sex drive go through the roof, and it dries to a snortable powder within a few minutes. This obviously doesn't come from a street dealer. I'll never buy street whizz again. I've lost 2-3 stone, in the last six months, I'm absolutely nailing college, and my social life is just getting better and better. It feels like you're snorting caustic soda, but it's definitely unbelievably pure stuff. If I was a dealer, I could cut it down to 25% and charge people £10 a gramme, and they'd come running back. It's nothing like the shit that's around in the UK. I find it hard to believe that no one has ordered some of this stuff online... Paste is normally a rip-off, if it's obtained from someone in the UK (as Shammy said, it's normally full of extra solvents and water), but this stuff is definitely just untouched paste, direct from the place it was made, which hasn't been dried. Obviously, you lose about a third of the weight, when it's dried (which is how they make a bit more profit), but who gives a fuck, when you're left with 6-7 grammes of pure amphetamine sulphate? It's like a different drug to the stuff available here.

 

[SmokingAces]

Pure sulphate is like ket or meph crystals that dry powder still contains many other chems. I had some "72% paste" tested it came back speed caffiene some other bulker and 2 other stim residues in it. Like I said the pure amphetamine is like crystal mkat. I agree your still getting your moneys worth, it's far from being pure though. The whole paste thing is a con, it's often far wetter than it should be due to added solvents, apparently one of the reasons speed these days isn't as good as pre 90's is it's made from phenylacetone now which is a different synth from the old days when pure sulphate was more common. I'm not saying there is no good paste but from the results I've seen most of it is nowhere near the 72% and clean figures people think.

 

[SKL]

Treacle, I've had the product you mention, this is some years back, and I preferred it even to MA or dexedrine. Though less sensual and flowy than MA and less cerberal than dex, it combined perfectly the mental and bodily highs of solid amphetamine, and I felt somehow less liable to paranoia and mania, although as you mention very anorectic and a bit harder on the body than either in terms of teeth clenching, diaphoresis, etc. Probably as far as euphoria goes one of my favorite classic stimulants, though. Oh, to have lived in the Benzedrine era.

 

[Treacle]

I know, back in the '50s, when speed was over-the-counter, for whatever you wanted it for...

I certainly don't feel like this stuff is cut with anything. Caffeine makes me feel like shit, but this feels very clean and smooth, just like amphetamine should. I much prefer it to dextroamphetamine, which makes me feel nowhere near as high, even though it's pharmaceutical-grade. The 50/50 (racemic) mix of levo and dextro is just right.

 

[The Kid]

I didn't realise folk were still doing speed! I've not come across any for at least 15 years. .... must be getting old!

Treacle : the stuff you describe sounds like the "base" we used to get in the mid 90's. Perfect combo with some tasty Doves.

 

[ScotchMist]

Drugs are shite these days.. all of the cunts. Obviously my sources are not up to scratch anymore but I'm too fuckin lazy to do owt about it.

Keep bashing the shit stuff in the hope I get fed up of em.. this plan started around 2010 and im still taking shit drugs. The last time I took "speed" was years ago and it was literally glucose with some H20 added, kept me alert for all of 20 mins, other folks were staying up for days on the shit. Gotta respect someone who can stay up for 4 days on sugar, that's tough going man.. I cant remember the last time MDMA had any effect that resembled the glory days of MDMA. Ketamine is fucked, cocaine is fucked, smack is fucked, crack is fucked, it's all to fuck.. what happened to the days when you was highly unlikely to score bashed to death drugs with out proxies and bitcoins...

Won't someone think of the kids

The only constant has been LSD, and she left me for a number of years, the whore.... I welcomed her back with open arms when she reappeared though

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Drugs are shite these days.. all of the cunts. Obviously my sources are not up to scratch anymore but I'm too fuckin lazy to do owt about it.

Keep bashing the shit stuff in the hope I get fed up of em.. this plan started around 2010 and im still taking shit drugs. The last time I took "speed" was years ago and it was literally glucose with some H20 added, kept me alert for all of 20 mins, other folks were staying up for days on the shit. Gotta respect someone who can stay up for 4 days on sugar, that's tough going man.. I cant remember the last time MDMA had any effect that resembled the glory days of MDMA. Ketamine is fucked, cocaine is fucked, smack is fucked, crack is fucked, it's all to fuck.. what happened to the days when you was highly unlikely to score bashed to death drugs with out proxies and bitcoins...

Won't someone think of the kids

The only constant has been LSD, and she left me for a number of years, the whore.... I welcomed her back with open arms when she reappeared though

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14 people in EADD-wonderland still say "Nah, but that glucose is some good shit brah"

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Drugs are shite these days.. all of the cunts. Obviously my sources are not up to scratch anymore but I'm too fuckin lazy to do owt about it.

Keep bashing the shit stuff in the hope I get fed up of em.. this plan started around 2010 and im still taking shit drugs. The last time I took "speed" was years ago and it was literally glucose with some H20 added, kept me alert for all of 20 mins, other folks were staying up for days on the shit. Gotta respect someone who can stay up for 4 days on sugar, that's tough going man.. I cant remember the last time MDMA had any effect that resembled the glory days of MDMA. Ketamine is fucked, cocaine is fucked, smack is fucked, crack is fucked, it's all to fuck.. what happened to the days when you was highly unlikely to score bashed to death drugs with out proxies and bitcoins...

Won't someone think of the kids

The only constant has been LSD, and she left me for a number of years, the whore.... I welcomed her back with open arms when she reappeared though

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[SKL]

Drugs are shite these days.. all of the cunts. Obviously my sources are not up to scratch anymore but I'm too fuckin lazy to do owt about it.

Keep bashing the shit stuff in the hope I get fed up of em.. this plan started around 2010 and im still taking shit drugs. The last time I took "speed" was years ago and it was literally glucose with some H20 added, kept me alert for all of 20 mins, other folks were staying up for days on the shit. Gotta respect someone who can stay up for 4 days on sugar, that's tough going man.. I cant remember the last time MDMA had any effect that resembled the glory days of MDMA. Ketamine is fucked, cocaine is fucked, smack is fucked, crack is fucked, it's all to fuck.. what happened to the days when you was highly unlikely to score bashed to death drugs with out proxies and bitcoins...

Won't someone think of the kids

The only constant has been LSD, and she left me for a number of years, the whore.... I welcomed her back with open arms when she reappeared though

It's not just a European problem, mate.

On our side of the pond, dope is too often fent, pharms are too often fake, coke is too often cut to shit, pot is uniformly good but overpriced and besides, you know, fuck the corporate Californians, they drove all the small time growers out of the business, but hey, I don't smoke that horrible shit anyway, actually I mostly stick to booze, but yeah, I keep an ear to the ground, what else? Meth is usually solid, unless you're buying the real cheap stuff, but if you do then you should probably expect cancer and psychosis, but yeah, quality is available but you have to go through shady as fuck people, if you're east coast that means gay bars or paying far too much to some boutique hipster asshole, if you're rural that means degenerate fucking hillbillies but that's where I come from so that's alright with me, and I don't really give a shit about the west coast, and if you're in the wrong part of the country you might get a aPVP which is a pretty cool drug unless you're not expecting it, E/molly, forget it, doses are too often bomamines, get an Ehrlich reagent, ketamine is expensive as shit and probably research chemicals, I mean I remember when it was stupidly cheap, but yeah, drugs suck these days. I blame Ross Ulbricht and curse the day he picked up a S.E. Konkin tract.

 

[Treacle]

Well, seeing as most of my drugs come from online, or from excellent sources (pills), and when I do coke, it's always excellent stuff from the guy I get it from, I can't complain! Can't remember the last time I got anything I was genuinely upset about.

 

[SKL]

I got out of the scene before open sale of online drugs to the end user was a thing, so I cant testify to that, I don't know how to Bitcoin, and even if I learned, I'm too paranoid to get involved, just feel like that whole scene is teetering on the edge of crashing down in a big way, and besides I don't really do drugs anymore, but yeah, if I wanted to get some drugs, I'd have to be a "locovore" (that is what the hipster foodies call it, right?)