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Stimulants Central Nervous System Irritation

Ksa

Ksa

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It's back, but now I knew how to deal with it and make it stop. I have used nicotine extensively for the past 5 weeks for body building mainly since dexedrine seemed to rip my living soul out and not let me work out. I am not sure if it's an auto-immune response but it sure feels like it. I believe the nicotine irritated some of the brain tissue and when I quit nicotine to up my Dex dose, the inflamation appeared. Same thing happened 3 months ago and lasted about 3 weeks after quitting nicotine after which the symptoms did not return until I started taking nicotine again.

It feels like a buzzing in the brain, olfactive hallucinations, pins and needles on side of the head, face, etc. It responds very badly to Tylenol or anti-inflamatory medication or any other medication, even vitamins, because it increases the symptoms. This whole thing put together feels like a nicotine buzz, pushed to the extreme. I can recognize the taste and smell of it but it just feels like it's pushed beyond boundaries.

As soon as I overcome this I will write a full report on Nicotine-Amphetamine usage.

Anyone experienced anything like this?
 
sounds like nicotine withdrawal, especially if it goes away when you resume consuming nicotine...

this is why people warn against regular consumption of nicotine! it produces a nasty physical dependence.
 
This is my day 10 of withdrawal. Symptoms getting better. The worst symptoms were 5-7 days in withdrawal.
 
I just can't understand anyones desire for nicotine.... No offense to you Ksa. I do not smoke, though I have tried a cigarette or two before. The nicotine "buzz" was shitty feeling and left me with anxiety. Not to mention cigarettes just taste shitty and are horrible for you....

It's like getting addicted to someone stabbing you every day. No benefit, only damage.

Good luck with your withdrawals man, never a fun thing.
 
hatrix said:
I just can't understand anyones desire for nicotine.... No offense to you Ksa. I do not smoke, though I have tried a cigarette or two before. The nicotine "buzz" was shitty feeling and left me with anxiety. Not to mention cigarettes just taste shitty and are horrible for you....

It's like getting addicted to someone stabbing you every day. No benefit, only damage.

Good luck with your withdrawals man, never a fun thing.
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This usually happens if nicotine wasn’t your first drug.

But if it were the other way around, you would’t be saying that for sure.

You would be rationalizing just like every other drug.


But, nicotine is a complete bitch. I get so annoyingly irritated when I can’t smoke when I want to and/or smoke in a while.
 
I am a heavy smoker so im not posting from a point of ignorance...

Nicotine is powerful shit. The common comments and confusion about why people smoke since its so shit, has no real drug effect, no euphoria, no real decent high etc only prove how powerful it is.

I have found stopping and controlling alc, meth, coke, opiates etc piss easy compared to cigs and nicotine pesonally.

Anyways in its defense regarding specific uses like the OP suggested, im certain it has many very niche applications, just like any substance, whether its safe or not i guess is besides the specific point.

Personally its very subtle in its risks and i have yet to tame this beast compared to other "hard" drugs. It deserves more "respect" regarding its risks then it gets.
 
Subtle in risk?

It is very subtle if you are a smoker, but chewing and patches are a bigger risk to overdosing.

You’ll get sick before you overdose from smoking...

You will feel ill from chewing but if you are far enough into it, you still have some remaining in the tissues of your mouth to be an issue.

Same with the patches and where you place them.
 
^^ Lol, after re-reading its not really clear, soz. I meant to imply the perceived short term risks are seemingly subtle or somehow acceptable or calculated in nature (whether thats true / intelligent or not).

Im struggling to explain this idea, but i can offer the personal example that i personally still smoke after being able to manage and quell much harder drugs because smoking and nicotine seems to convince me that its ok, not so risky, manageable in the short term and that there is still time to stop before it causes any real harm, so why bother to stop now etc...

Its bad reasoning but thats its power. It deludes you into thinking its ok, you can stop later etc until eventually its to late. Other drugs are easy to stop because there are real obvious reasons to do so, but nicotine is subtle in its addiction and reasoning to make you maintain its use.

OK, so to conclude. Its subtle in its powerful ability keep justifying you contained use even tho the risks are obvious and well known and therefore not subtle in nature.

Hope that makes sense.
 
blight12 said:
^^ Lol, after re-reading its not really clear, soz. I meant to imply the perceived short term risks are seemingly subtle or somehow acceptable or calculated in nature (whether thats true / intelligent or not).

Im struggling to explain this idea, but i can offer the personal example that i personally still smoke after being able to manage and quell much harder drugs because smoking and nicotine seems to convince me that its ok, not so risky, manageable in the short term and that there is still time to stop before it causes any real harm, so why bother to stop now etc...

Its bad reasoning but thats its power. It deludes you into thinking its ok, you can stop later etc until eventually its to late. Other drugs are easy to stop because there are real obvious reasons to do so, but nicotine is subtle in its addiction and reasoning to make you maintain its use.

OK, so to conclude. Its subtle in its powerful ability keep justifying you contained use even tho the risks are obvious and well known and therefore not subtle in nature.

Hope that makes sense.
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I see now.

It does have a rather strong pull on one’s rational...
 
Not sure what kind of building you are attempting with your body, but all the evidence I'm familiar with supports the generally accepted idea that nicotine decreases testosterone levels and levels of other androgen hormones, thereby resulting in decreased productivity with regard to muscle growth and recovery.
 
and it's a vasoconstrictor, which is generally not good for promoting growth and increases the risk of bad shit like stroke and cardiac arrest
 
littlepenguin said:
^^^he wasn't smoking, he was ingesting nicotine for "body building" purposes.
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Which sounds counter productive to me... but I realize that's what he was using it for. I was making a general statement about nicotine use.

Psychedelic Jay said:
This usually happens if nicotine wasn’t your first drug.

But if it were the other way around, you would’t be saying that for sure.

You would be rationalizing just like every other drug.


But, nicotine is a complete bitch. I get so annoyingly irritated when I can’t smoke when I want to and/or smoke in a while.
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Yea I'd have to say weed was my first drug. I had friends always trying to get me to smoke during my young years when I was a "stoner", but I hated the taste and harshness. And like I said, there's no "high". I don't smoke drugs to feel zero high (however bad that sounds lol).

Now I barely even smoke weed anymore either. Pretty shitty ROA anyways, smoking anything that is.

I get what you mean though, I have people addicted to smoking cigarettes all around me. It will just fortunately never happen to me, something I can say for certain.
 
hatrix said:
Which sounds counter productive to me... but I realize that's what he was using it for. I was making a general statement about nicotine use.



Yea I'd have to say weed was my first drug. I had friends always trying to get me to smoke during my young years when I was a "stoner", but I hated the taste and harshness. And like I said, there's no "high". I don't smoke drugs to feel zero high (however bad that sounds lol).

Now I barely even smoke weed anymore either. Pretty shitty ROA anyways, smoking anything that is.

I get what you mean though, I have people addicted to smoking cigarettes all around me. It will just fortunately never happen to me, something I can say for certain.
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This is good. Nicotine actually increased the “vibration” of THC stimulation to me...


But yeah, Vasoconstriction, plus stunting growth does sound like shit when you are trying to grow...
 
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