Marijuana - Years of Experience - Heart Attack? Panic Attack? Flashback?
Hey there,
I've smoked weed for about 2 and a bit years and I've had more than my fair share of experiences including bad and terrible ones. Just recently though, this weekend I had 2 COMPLETE freak outs like I have never had before. Before I get started on the details I'd just like to note I've taken lsd once (approx 1.5 months ago, maybe 2) and mushrooms twice (once about 2 or 4 months ago and the second time with acid). I've done pills about 7 or 9 times and I've found usually the more md-substance in the pill the more I hallucinate (i.e. the best pills I've had were much love + visuals). I must've smoked up 200 or more separate occaisions in my "career" thus far.
This all happened just the last weekend starting on friday.
I started off with sharing a jay with a friend before a movie. The effects weren't very pronounced but when it came to talking I got my words mixed up majorly. Apart from this and a freaky movie my high wasn't particuarly unusual and in fact was very light. About 2 or 3 hours later I smoked again before bed. I had about 2 or 3 cones of the same weed, thinking I would need to get some good hits in to feel the effects. Well my memory is really damaged for the weekend in question but from memory of friday after I smoked I can remember;
1. Lying in bed in the dark and with the light on desperately sure if I didn't get murdered that night then it would happen one night soon.
2. Having intense body rushes and CEVs as well as minor yet very noticable OEVs.
As for the first point, it sounds stupid but I seriously could not reason with myself why it would be possible that I was not going to die soon. So thus I was totally convinced that I was going to die either that night or real soon. In retrospect the person I thought might murder me probably wouldn't do it, there would be a very small chance of it.
This was a very rough experience but not as much as a mind shake as possible because I smoked the next day and the day following that (sunday).
Now Sunday (last night) was where this became a HUGE problem for me. Again my memory is really fucked and I only remember chunks of the event but not when or in what order they happened.
I mixed the last of my weed from friday in with some totally separate weed which I had not smoked before. I had, I think, 2 cones and felt relatively fine. I felt stoned but I didn't note any anxiety/stress or fear of any kind. About 10 or 20 minutes after smoking I am in bed and I decide to put on Marilyn Manson's The Last Tour On Earth. As the opening track plays I can feel myself getting into it and really riding on that music-high you can get with weed. The second song starts and I start to notice that I'm breathing really hard and I'm starting not to feel comfortable in the position I'm lying in. I keep trying to move around and get comfortable but the pain/ill feeling wont go and it starts to get stronger. At this point I am getting strong patterns and colours for oev in the dark. I try to close my eyes but there is a massive body rush and it is too intense. I NEED to turn the lights on and get my head together. I take off my headphones and I now realise how fucked I am. My body feels paralysed and unusual. I think if I have ever experienced this feeling before in my life it must have happened only once or twice and somehow I dont remember it. At the moment though it's not TOO bad (as compaired to as bad as it got).
I am now lying in bed with the light on and I notice I am tripping. I dont know why or how but the walls are breathing. My poster is moving and focusing on certain points in the poster makes it look "differant" (I dont know how...a bit weak sounding I know but thats just how I interpreted the effect at the time). I look over at the wall to my left and I try to judge how far it is from me. I can't do it because the wall and the fan next to it keep easing slowly closer to me and then sliding away from me. Im starting to panic a little bit, I've had these sort of intense effects before from drugs but not usually all of them at once and not from 2 cones of fucking weed!
I start to notice I'm having trouble breathing. I try and inhale deeply and force the air down my throat or through my nose but it just feels like only a tiny portion of air is making it through to the vital zones. My body feels totally fucked (how is that for descriptive), I say this because I have never had this feeling before and its not pleasent. Where to begin. Putting my hand on my chest it feels like my left pectorial area is sort of pulsating up and down independantly to my heart beat which made it hard to take my pulse. Eventually I was able to control it and feel my heart and it was totally racing so much that it didnt feel like a normal heart beat. You know how your normal beat is dun dun.....dun dun... dun dun. Well mine just sounded all out of whack like dun dun dun..dundun..dun..dundun (except all of those were faster and without any break in between but you get the idea that there was almost no pattern to the beat). This also adds to my freak out. I dont really know what to do so I just lie there and think that this has to pass some time, I can only be "so" stoned and it'll end soon. I now notice that after about 5 seconds of inactivity any part of my body will just seize up and go insanely numb and feel totally alien. To move my arms for instance, is really difficult cause I can't feel most of them. I keep lying still and shifting when I feel my body go numb and the "feeling" creep over me again but it just gets progressively worse. It's like I have to struggle to move but once I get going I'm fine but then if I stop moving even briefly it kicks in hard again. I smoked at about 10:45pm and I started having the bad feelings around 11pm. I remember staring at my clock at around 11:20pm just telling myself "This is the weed, you're fucked up but it'll pass, take it easy" but I just keep watching the clock and time wont move (as I expect). I do this for about 5 minutes, seeing the time pass INCREDIBLY slowly...then bam
What happened? It's after midnight...How the fuck did that happen? Oh well at least it's passed - no it hasn't! FUCK! (these thoughts occured in about the space of a second or two after regaining conciousness) The feeling or high is back and its possibly stronger now. At some point I'm struggling to stop the visuals open and closed eye. On one hand the closed eye visuals are just TOO intense and rapid but at least I can sort of concentrate on them and sort of lose the pain in my body. On the other hand the open eye world is terrible, disorientating visuals aswell as immense body pain.
This is taking so long to explain so I will cut it short and summarise the gist I want to get across.
Friday, low dose of weed, deep/intense fear/paranoia, mild to medium CEVs and very quickly passing mild OEVs (I normally get CEV with weed but not this intense or detailed).
Sunday, low dose of weed (especially compaired to what I smoked in between Friday night and the Sunday night), strong! CEVs and mild OEVs, trouble breathing ( along with intense fear that I'm going to stop breathing or that something terrible is happening to my body healthwise), complete memory loss for various chunks of a 2 hour period (possibly blackouts), what I can only describe as body paralysis except for my head and neck (despite that I could move if I really struggled but the sensation was entirely that my body was telling me not to move) and also just incredible body sensations such as numbness and pain/discomfort. I also should mention that for about an hour my body had occaisional spasms. The one I remember was lying down my left leg just sort of kicked up.
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That is pretty scattered and hard to read, I know, but this is about as best as I can explain it. Just reading it, it doesn't even sound right or possible but this is literally what happened. The only shortfall (Apart from grammar and writing technique) of my report is that I've left so much out. Almost all of the effects I described were persistant (I had two chunks of just completely lost 30 or 40 minute periods) and/or occured multiple times. I tried as hard as I could to regain control of what was happening but failed miserably. I tried breathing calmly and trying to relax but that didn't help. I thought I might have been dehydrated so I sipped water occaisionly. I thought I might've been lying in an odd position and my blood flow was fucked or something so I brought my feet towards my waist and had my knees up and lay back but that didnt help.
Normally I love weed as much as the next person and will smoke all my weed until I have none left. Right now there's a fat little mix in my drawers that I dont even want to look at and I don't know when I will be able to bring myself to smoke it considering I CANT handle going through this again.
If anyone has any ideas what happened to me I'd appreciate the input.
Hey there,
I've smoked weed for about 2 and a bit years and I've had more than my fair share of experiences including bad and terrible ones. Just recently though, this weekend I had 2 COMPLETE freak outs like I have never had before. Before I get started on the details I'd just like to note I've taken lsd once (approx 1.5 months ago, maybe 2) and mushrooms twice (once about 2 or 4 months ago and the second time with acid). I've done pills about 7 or 9 times and I've found usually the more md-substance in the pill the more I hallucinate (i.e. the best pills I've had were much love + visuals). I must've smoked up 200 or more separate occaisions in my "career" thus far.
This all happened just the last weekend starting on friday.
I started off with sharing a jay with a friend before a movie. The effects weren't very pronounced but when it came to talking I got my words mixed up majorly. Apart from this and a freaky movie my high wasn't particuarly unusual and in fact was very light. About 2 or 3 hours later I smoked again before bed. I had about 2 or 3 cones of the same weed, thinking I would need to get some good hits in to feel the effects. Well my memory is really damaged for the weekend in question but from memory of friday after I smoked I can remember;
1. Lying in bed in the dark and with the light on desperately sure if I didn't get murdered that night then it would happen one night soon.
2. Having intense body rushes and CEVs as well as minor yet very noticable OEVs.
As for the first point, it sounds stupid but I seriously could not reason with myself why it would be possible that I was not going to die soon. So thus I was totally convinced that I was going to die either that night or real soon. In retrospect the person I thought might murder me probably wouldn't do it, there would be a very small chance of it.
This was a very rough experience but not as much as a mind shake as possible because I smoked the next day and the day following that (sunday).
Now Sunday (last night) was where this became a HUGE problem for me. Again my memory is really fucked and I only remember chunks of the event but not when or in what order they happened.
I mixed the last of my weed from friday in with some totally separate weed which I had not smoked before. I had, I think, 2 cones and felt relatively fine. I felt stoned but I didn't note any anxiety/stress or fear of any kind. About 10 or 20 minutes after smoking I am in bed and I decide to put on Marilyn Manson's The Last Tour On Earth. As the opening track plays I can feel myself getting into it and really riding on that music-high you can get with weed. The second song starts and I start to notice that I'm breathing really hard and I'm starting not to feel comfortable in the position I'm lying in. I keep trying to move around and get comfortable but the pain/ill feeling wont go and it starts to get stronger. At this point I am getting strong patterns and colours for oev in the dark. I try to close my eyes but there is a massive body rush and it is too intense. I NEED to turn the lights on and get my head together. I take off my headphones and I now realise how fucked I am. My body feels paralysed and unusual. I think if I have ever experienced this feeling before in my life it must have happened only once or twice and somehow I dont remember it. At the moment though it's not TOO bad (as compaired to as bad as it got).
I am now lying in bed with the light on and I notice I am tripping. I dont know why or how but the walls are breathing. My poster is moving and focusing on certain points in the poster makes it look "differant" (I dont know how...a bit weak sounding I know but thats just how I interpreted the effect at the time). I look over at the wall to my left and I try to judge how far it is from me. I can't do it because the wall and the fan next to it keep easing slowly closer to me and then sliding away from me. Im starting to panic a little bit, I've had these sort of intense effects before from drugs but not usually all of them at once and not from 2 cones of fucking weed!
I start to notice I'm having trouble breathing. I try and inhale deeply and force the air down my throat or through my nose but it just feels like only a tiny portion of air is making it through to the vital zones. My body feels totally fucked (how is that for descriptive), I say this because I have never had this feeling before and its not pleasent. Where to begin. Putting my hand on my chest it feels like my left pectorial area is sort of pulsating up and down independantly to my heart beat which made it hard to take my pulse. Eventually I was able to control it and feel my heart and it was totally racing so much that it didnt feel like a normal heart beat. You know how your normal beat is dun dun.....dun dun... dun dun. Well mine just sounded all out of whack like dun dun dun..dundun..dun..dundun (except all of those were faster and without any break in between but you get the idea that there was almost no pattern to the beat). This also adds to my freak out. I dont really know what to do so I just lie there and think that this has to pass some time, I can only be "so" stoned and it'll end soon. I now notice that after about 5 seconds of inactivity any part of my body will just seize up and go insanely numb and feel totally alien. To move my arms for instance, is really difficult cause I can't feel most of them. I keep lying still and shifting when I feel my body go numb and the "feeling" creep over me again but it just gets progressively worse. It's like I have to struggle to move but once I get going I'm fine but then if I stop moving even briefly it kicks in hard again. I smoked at about 10:45pm and I started having the bad feelings around 11pm. I remember staring at my clock at around 11:20pm just telling myself "This is the weed, you're fucked up but it'll pass, take it easy" but I just keep watching the clock and time wont move (as I expect). I do this for about 5 minutes, seeing the time pass INCREDIBLY slowly...then bam
What happened? It's after midnight...How the fuck did that happen? Oh well at least it's passed - no it hasn't! FUCK! (these thoughts occured in about the space of a second or two after regaining conciousness) The feeling or high is back and its possibly stronger now. At some point I'm struggling to stop the visuals open and closed eye. On one hand the closed eye visuals are just TOO intense and rapid but at least I can sort of concentrate on them and sort of lose the pain in my body. On the other hand the open eye world is terrible, disorientating visuals aswell as immense body pain.
This is taking so long to explain so I will cut it short and summarise the gist I want to get across.
Friday, low dose of weed, deep/intense fear/paranoia, mild to medium CEVs and very quickly passing mild OEVs (I normally get CEV with weed but not this intense or detailed).
Sunday, low dose of weed (especially compaired to what I smoked in between Friday night and the Sunday night), strong! CEVs and mild OEVs, trouble breathing ( along with intense fear that I'm going to stop breathing or that something terrible is happening to my body healthwise), complete memory loss for various chunks of a 2 hour period (possibly blackouts), what I can only describe as body paralysis except for my head and neck (despite that I could move if I really struggled but the sensation was entirely that my body was telling me not to move) and also just incredible body sensations such as numbness and pain/discomfort. I also should mention that for about an hour my body had occaisional spasms. The one I remember was lying down my left leg just sort of kicked up.
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That is pretty scattered and hard to read, I know, but this is about as best as I can explain it. Just reading it, it doesn't even sound right or possible but this is literally what happened. The only shortfall (Apart from grammar and writing technique) of my report is that I've left so much out. Almost all of the effects I described were persistant (I had two chunks of just completely lost 30 or 40 minute periods) and/or occured multiple times. I tried as hard as I could to regain control of what was happening but failed miserably. I tried breathing calmly and trying to relax but that didn't help. I thought I might have been dehydrated so I sipped water occaisionly. I thought I might've been lying in an odd position and my blood flow was fucked or something so I brought my feet towards my waist and had my knees up and lay back but that didnt help.
Normally I love weed as much as the next person and will smoke all my weed until I have none left. Right now there's a fat little mix in my drawers that I dont even want to look at and I don't know when I will be able to bring myself to smoke it considering I CANT handle going through this again.
If anyone has any ideas what happened to me I'd appreciate the input.