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Cannabis + PCP - first time - Bad Trip and a flashback

Richard Prixton

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Marijuana/PCP - first time - Bad Trip and a flashback

Trip and a flashback

Cannabis (smoked)


The following is a copy of a trip report I have submitted to Erowid, and posted on a few different sites. Obviously the first time I got high, it was more than mj. Anyways my trip report is as follows:


I remember the first time I ever got high. I didn't even know about the internet, trip sitters, preperations, set and setting, none of that shit. I was just a 16 year old trying to catch a buzz.

Now before I go any further, just picture yourself expecting to fight someone who's ass you know you'll kick. But you expect to get a little fucked up, a few punches are inevitable. Before you can put up your dukes, you are assaulted with lighning fast punches, and before you know what happened you're on the ground getting kicked in the ribs. Imagine walking down the street, expecting to feel human, and in a second its as if you're a ghost, all of a sudden u feel alien and you're forced to deal with it for 7 hours.

This was my experience.

I was with my friend at the time, who lived right next door to me and was a huge pothead. I smoked out of a bowl and a joint with him a couple times, never got more than a slight body buzz though.

One night in particular, he wanted me to get high with him. Really Freakin' High. Since he had nothing to roll the weed into, he used a steam roller wrapped with some foil and shit.

I took two hits from that, damn near coughed my lungs up. As soon as I was done coughing the second time, I just sat there for what was probably 5 minutes but could have been more or less. I remember him asking me how I felt, but I simply couldn't respond. Or I didn't want to, I just remember I couldn't. I heard what sounded like a waterfall, which could have been the blood in my veins or a hallucination.

That waterfall shit freaked me the fuck out, so I stood up. I tried to go in his house, as if I was noramal, we had planned on listening to Metallica after getting high. Then I realized I just was'nt walking normally. I seemed to be walking backwards, yet moving forward. This truly confused me. So I kept asking him if I was walking alright and why I wasn't enjoying the high. All I remember after that was banging my head against a wall in his apartment - REALLY HARD - and I didn't feel a thing.

I went straight home after that to try to relax and sleep it off. But laying down in my bed, I could hear and feel everything that was going on in my body. I remember thinking, is this what weed does?? How come I can't relax on this stuff like everybody else? This thinking made things worse. WTf.

You know when u have a song stuck in your head? Well, this weird part of a Marilyn Manson song off of Portrait of an American Family kept playing like a continuous loop in my head. It was rather haunting and disturbing, the way it sounded.

I remember at one point it felt like I became my heart and I was trapped in my chest or soemthing! Shit was nuts. That's when I panicked and went and woke my mom up and told her to take me to the hospital. lol I tried to convince her that she could just tell them not to arrest me 'cause I had laced shit so it wasn't my fault. And that I was only a teenager trying to expiriement and I'd NEVER do it again. haha

Off course that didn't work and her reaction only made me feel worse. I just layed there on the living room floor till it wore off, every now and then I would twitch and shake and say "make it stop". My mom was convinced I was on something else (I told her I just had weed),off course. The minutes really were like hours* so I kept staring at the digital clock on the microwave in disbelief. It was really annoying at this point because every time I swallowed saliva or took a breath, I could feel it going down my throat or I could feel my chest and everything involved in the movement. I experienced every bodily function in too much damn detail. I know that sounds cool but it really wasn't. Its as if I was so focused on the inside that I couldn't focus on the outside.

This caused me to feel really isolated from everything and everyone, like I wasn't really there. And I felt so numb. My heart seemed to be beating ten times as fast as it normally was, and I could hear it clearly without even trying to, which really freaked me out.

That night, I was sure it was angel dust or acid weed. I KNEW it had to be something crazy, but when I asked my "friend" about it the next day, he insisted that it was just weed. It should be noted that he was just fine while I was trippin balls.

The next morning when I woke up feeling mentally, physically and psycologically exhausted. Like complete shit I tell you. I felt weaker than I ever have/had in my whole life, I honestly thought I was dieing or something.

This motherfucker was really nothing but a burnout, always doing MJ and sometimes acid, prescription pills or speed. I've heard that tweekers sometimes use that steam roller/tin foil method. Whatever I smoked, this shit was crazy.

So I decided to never smoke weed again in my life.

Well, about 4 years later I decided to smoke some hydro, had about half a joint, and it was quite enjoyable. So I started smoking weed occasionally, because most of my friends at that time smoked.

A couple years After that, I took a couple hits (that's it) off another friend's blunt, and the same thing as the first time happened! As soon as I was done coughing, I felt dissociated and numb EXACTLY like the first time 8( , which is what freaked me out. It was like a lightswich in my head SNAP! Purple rain reality! Because my mental state was identicle to that one night, I was convinced I would have the same trip as 4 years ago, and so I pretty much did. Can you say FLASHBACK?! FUCK! I just waited it out this time, at first.

My homie said I was buggin out so he was like "I'm gonna leave bro". You have no idea how fucked up being alone in that state sounded! I did convince him to get me some Nyquil from Cirkle K, which I ended up taking a couple hours later. I honestly considered suicide that night.

At first I tried to breath, calm down, do pushups* it all made it worse. I remember going outside and I was so fucking confused, I tried listening to music but it was so distant and faraway. Everything was sooo far away, so alien, you don't understand.

How could this be? What are the chances of me having PCP or whatever this shit was, again? And I only smoked like 10 times in my whole life!

So yeah, I ended up drinking a double dose of Nyquil. When it kicked in it took me like 15 minutes to walk from my living room to my room (or at least thats what it felt like). Everything was so slooooow. But I was so releived to know I was going to sleep.

Ironically, DXM is my drug of choice these days. I don't do much of anything else. But my first time, on 4 ounces of Tussin, after the euphoria, the dissociative effects kicked in, which were very similar to the that numb, bad trippy feeling from the 'weed'. And I was like "Jesus, does every drug end up doing this to me"? I did get over it, it wasn't nearly as bad as those two horrible, hellish experiences with weed (that sounds so ridiculous).

But I can certainly see the similarities between the two dissociatives (DXM and PCP), and a high 3rd plat dose is almost identical to those bad trips I had.

Whatever, I'm like the only person I know that doesn't smoke weed for these reasons. Everybody else either simply doesn't like it, is straight edge, or they quit smoking. I'm glad to see others have these things happen on here. Wait, no I'm not. Its a horrible thing that nobody should have to go thru. But at least there's those that can relate.

Some information about my state of mind around the time when I had my first wild trip. I rarely drank water, didn't eat as well as I should, like most Americans, and I was on medication for a chemical imbalance.

I don't remember if I was taking an MAOI or anti-depressant (I was given a few different meds, some of which were the wrong shit and I had to be given different doses/meds till it "worked") at the exact time, but I know it was during that era and I HAD been on medication.

I was also mentally unstable during that time of my life so of course whatever this was did not help. Still, I don't think weed alone would cause something this intence. And how do you explain a full blown flashback years later, off two hits of a joint? And, I've been told that I described the effects of a first time angel dust trip perfectly (I've posted this report on a few message boards, looking for answers).

Whatever it was, I'm 99% sure it was dust. I suppose mary jane is can trigger flashbacks to bad trips, I've heard of acid heds who can't smoke for those reasons, and these are people who haven't touched a tab in years, mind you.

*U don't understand, exercise was out of the question. For some reason, if I stayed still during the flashback, I would have gone into a full blown panick attack.

No, really, minute were hours when I watched them
8o
 
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I would say, don't swear off weed, just stop smoking it with your "friend" although, a true friend would not throw you into a trip without knowing.

Maybe you threw yourself into this because of severe anxiety, who knows? I, nor anyone I know personally has ever had a hard time like this, especially for 7 hours....

Either you smoked ALL of the PCP? (lace) and he smoked none, or you had a real bad panic attack. Anxiety has lead me to feel as though I was actually tripping, I get very severe anxiety at times.

As far as "flashbacks", I think they are anxiety triggered miniature 'trips', and I have never had what most people would call a flashback. I have eaten WAY too much acid in the last 7 years (in my opinion) and I haven't experienced any trips without drugs (I wish).

However, when I do have a bad panic attack, it resembles a trip, where nothing is normal, everything is alien, and I cannot figure out what is 'really' happening, so it can be very confusing and disorienting.

Not to say that is what it is, but quite possibly soemthing to consider. Hope my post helps a little.

much love
 
Listening to "Portrait of an American Family" can't have helped, I remember listening to the album and looping hardcore on that little child's voice just before Lunchbox starts, and being rather creeped out by it.

I'd be having more than a few words with your friend though if he's giving you laced marijuana...
 
My suspition is that the weed was pre-dipped in wet, and either my friend didn't know or didn't bother to tell me. Well, obviously I found out that one night that he wasn't a friend.

You know what's fucked up? That flashback I had was actually not the first. I remember one time I was just walking to my aunt's house (this was about a week after my first bad trip) and all of a sudden I kinda shifted consciousness, and it was the same physical numbing effect and everything. It wasn't exactly the same but all of a sudden its like someone flicked a switch and made me trip!

I ate some food and drank some water, and I felt a little better. So this time it was probably just my body's way of telling me something, but dam it felt so much like that fucked up ass night.

1 thing I can say for sure is this. One thing that caused me to freak out was the fact that I didn't like how not in control I was. Then there was the sheer horror of 'feeling', of being so different then I was used to, that shit made me bug out. I mean I was trying to get high not have an OBE.

Then, like I said I started smoking some years later. Truth be told, 5 times out of 10, weed alone makes me paranoid, 3 times it'll be enjoyable, and the rest are flashbacks. Hence me not smoking herb ever.

Fuck, if I only had gotten to enjoy some quality weed for some time before this happened, it wouldn't be as traumatizing to get PCP when u expect just weed.

Does this sound right to anybody? Getting laced shit and then perhaps a joint the smell of weed or whatever becomes like a visual cue, years later, which causes me to relive that expirience? Maybe because I coughed for like a minute, and felt light-headed as hell instantly after only two hits, exactly like the first time, triggered the flashback? Perhaps my mind expected this reaction.
 
Mean Girl said:
Listening to "Portrait of an American Family" can't have helped, I remember listening to the album and looping hardcore on that little child's voice just before Lunchbox starts, and being rather creeped out by it.

I'd be having more than a few words with your friend though if he's giving you laced marijuana...

Yeah I feel you. And I honestly think he didn't know it was laced. He probably just thought it was really good shit when he got more fucked up than usual. But he seemed just fine that night.

He seriously acted as if I was over reacting. But whatever, that was years ago. I told him he was a dick and pretty much stopped hanging out with him. I just had to know what that shit was laced with, but he didn't tell me.

I saw him break it up and pack it into that bowl he made, it didn't have any red hairs or white things, it looked like regular weed. He even explained this to me before hand.
 
u know there is the chance that you are just ulta sensative to the psychadellic aspects of marijuana. I have a friend who gets REALLY stoned most of the time, and once I smoked a few bowls with him and he totally bugged out. Started hallucinating and vommiting, the whole bit (and it also lasted for a while).

He was really mad at me for a while cuz he thought I laced the bud with something, but I can assure you it was normal marijuana. He believed i didnt put anything in it after a bit, but still thinks it was laced with something. I say if it was laced with something, I and the others who smoked it would have noticed as well.

Its not that tough for a pothead to tell if there is a powerful dissosiative in their herb, while someone who only smokes occasionally (like your 10 total times) would have a tough time saying whether it was just very potent marijuana or a chemical, as they are not well aquainted with either.

Not totally denying the possibility that it was laced, but pot is an extremely intense drug for those with low tolerance. My first few times really getting stoned are on the same level of intensity as many of the chems i've tasted
 
The first time I got high on weed I was certain it was laced with pcp because I was so gone. Infact it wasn't, i was just really high and paranoid.

Besides, they dont really lace weed unless u pay alot extra, theres no profit in it.
 
Opus said:
u know there is the chance that you are just ulta sensative to the psychadellic aspects of marijuana. I have a friend who gets REALLY stoned most of the time, and once I smoked a few bowls with him and he totally bugged out. Started hallucinating and vommiting, the whole bit (and it also lasted for a while).

He was really mad at me for a while cuz he thought I laced the bud with something, but I can assure you it was normal marijuana. He believed i didnt put anything in it after a bit, but still thinks it was laced with something. I say if it was laced with something, I and the others who smoked it would have noticed as well.

Its not that tough for a pothead to tell if there is a powerful dissosiative in their herb, while someone who only smokes occasionally (like your 10 total times) would have a tough time saying whether it was just very potent marijuana or a chemical, as they are not well aquainted with either.

Not totally denying the possibility that it was laced, but pot is an extremely intense drug for those with low tolerance. My first few times really getting stoned are on the same level of intensity as many of the chems i've tasted

I'm pretty sure that first time it was laced. And I know what you're saying about being overly sensitive to weed has merit, in fact that's probably the case.

'Cause its never taken much to get me fucked up on weed. Seriously three hits and I' gone, I think the most I smoked was a joint and I passed out on it.

So if it doesn't make me paranoid it makes me sleepy, I don't like bud much at all. I'm actually kinda glad I'm not into it 'cause if I liked the effects I'm sure I'd be a major pothead, which would suck 'cause of random drug testing at my job, expenses, ect.

I mean quitting ciggarettes was like the hardest thing I've ever done, but I finally gave that up. Fuck smoking anything IMO.

I drink syrup and get high, or just drink alcohol and catch a nice buzz
 
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