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Brain may produce its own antipsychotic drug

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996324


09:30 30 August 04

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A cannabis-like substance produced by the brain may dampen delusional or psychotic experiences, rather than trigger them.

Heavy cannabis use has been linked to psychosis in the past, leading researchers to look for a connection between the brain's natural cannabinoid system and schizophrenia.

Sure enough, when Markus Leweke of the University of Cologne, Germany, and Andrea Giuffrida and Danielle Piomelli of the University of California, Irvine, looked at levels of the natural cannabis-like substance anandamide, they were higher in people with schizophrenia than in healthy controls.

The team measured levels of anandamide in the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) of 47 people suffering their first bout of schizophrenia, but who had not yet taken any drugs for it, and 26 people who had symptoms of psychosis and have a high risk of schizophrenia.

Compared with 84 healthy volunteers, levels were six times as high in people with symptoms of psychosis and eight times as high in those with schizophrenia.

"This is a massive increase in anandamide levels," Leweke told the National Cannabis and Mental Illness Conference in Melbourne, Australia, last week. And that is just in the CSF. Levels could be a hundred times higher in the synapses, where nerve signalling is taking place, he says.


Cause or effect


But were the high anandamide levels triggering the psychotic symptoms or a response to them? Leweke and his colleagues found, to their surprise, that the more severe people's schizophrenia was the lower their anandamide levels.

The team's theory is that rather than triggering psychosis, the substance is released in response to psychotic symptoms to help control them. People with the worst symptoms might be unable to produce sufficient anandamide to prevent them.

At some point in their lives, between 5 and 30 per cent of healthy people have had symptoms such as delusions or hallucinations, which can be triggered by something as simple as sleep deprivation. "All of us are potentially psychotic," says David Castle of the University of Melbourne. So for the body to have a system that prevents these experiences getting out of hand makes sense, he says.


Frequent episodes


The new findings suggest antipsychotic drugs could be developed that target the anandamide system, but it will not be simple. The active ingredient in cannabis, THC, binds to anandamide receptors.

But people with schizophrenia who use cannabis actually have more severe and frequent psychotic episodes than those who do not. This may be because THC makes anandamide receptors less sensitive.

Leweke's team also found anandamide levels lowest in people with schizophrenia who used cannabis more frequently, suggesting it may disrupt the system in other ways too. Up to 60 per cent of people with schizophrenia use cannabis.

A study by Castle, also reported at the Melbourne meeting, has found that people use the drug to get rid of unpleasant emotions associated with the disease such as anxiety and depression.


Rachel Nowak, Melbourne
 
So, Anandamide levels are lowered with Cannabis usage, thus people that are already genetically predisposed to mental illnesses have a higher risk of getting an episode. So that's the reason crazy people can actually become crazy.. Nice work!

I'm sending off a copy to Drugs in the Media.
 
great find

A cannabis-like substance produced by the brain may dampen delusional or psychotic experiences, rather than trigger them.

however i have to say that is, absolute bullshit, from my experiences it is pot that has triggered many acts of anger, delusion and paranoia, infact too many times which has really upset me about the good old bud..

and i definately wouldnt say im some one with schizophrenia, thought it at times, but doctors and family say no - however mates say i do...
 
xXTOKERXx,
from my experiences it is pot that has triggered many acts of anger, delusion and paranoia, infact too many times which has really upset me about the good old bud..

This was explained.

people with schizophrenia who use cannabis actually have more severe and frequent psychotic episodes than those who do not. This may be because THC makes anandamide receptors less sensitive

It wasn't saying that smoking pot or ingesting THC would fix the problem, it was saying that something similar was.
 
i did read that, but according to the doctors i dont have an underlaying mental disorder and therefore it would be the marijuanna which has set off this rages..

i was not saying that POT has given these problems, let alone protected me from them, it has fueled them, so personally i think the article needs a lot more indepth testing and research before i can even contemplate that the drug can reduce delusions..

if anything im more delusional because of it, and many get stuck in the marijuanna world, like i have, and continue too..

so unless i really do have an underlaying mental disorder (which i think i do at times, generally because of pot, making me a little delusional - no pun intended) then this article is very wrong..

however a good find.
 
It doesn't make sense though. If they say anandamide lessens psychosis, and then THC ACUTELY makes it worse... that makes no sense. They're argument says that THC chronically makes it worse by down regulating the receptors... but if a schizophrenic had never had THC before, and you gave them bud, they're arguement would predict that it would make them better... which is usually doesn't.
 
^ya i agree with it not making sense. It really is just confusing, how does it make it better, but also worse?
 
I just wonder about how strong the correlation between schizphrenic symptomes and anandamide levels are. They haven't published these findings as far as I'm awear, so we'll have to wait and see.
 
^^ you said something along the lines i was talking about, but in a much more professional and understanding way, thanks :D
 
ive always heard that if too much is smoked it leads to delusions, or cevs and stuff
 
Bilz0r, you state "if a schizophrenic had never had THC before, and you gave them bud, they're arguement would predict that it would make them better... which is usually doesn't."
I don't think that's what they are saying. Their logic, if I understand them correctly, is that THC desensitizes the anandamide receptors, therefore inhibiting natural antidelusional properties associated with the binding of endogenous endocannabinoids like anandamide and 2 arachidonoylglycerol. It is possible THC can reduce anxiety and
by agonizing anandamide receptors in the short term, but eventually the feedback in the brain downregulates the receptors, therefore requiring more anandamide to have the same effect as before the THC.

They make a point to assert the differences between anandamide and THC. Anandamide and THC are like enkephalin and morphine. True they are both cannabinoid agonists, but do we really know the differences in the precise molecular chain of events each one triggers at a CB, vannilloid, or any other unknown cannabinoid receptors, not to mention the diverse possibilities of efferent neural networks.
 
Yes, thats why I differentiated between chonic and accute use. They basically state "anandamide is antipsychotic" and then they say "the reason why some people find a link between cannabis use and schizophrenia is that THC desensitizes the CB1 receptor, making anandamide redundant"

From that, it should follow then that a single dose of THC, to a THC naive schizophrenic, should lessen their symptomes.... but it doesn't.
 
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