Opioids Can you stop once you feel the high?

[Oxy8_8]

I guess this goes for all downers, really.

Can you take some and reach a moderate high and then just stop?

I find that - unless I have a specific reason to be awake and somewhat alert like if I want to read a book or meet my dealer - I keep using until I nod off.

Generally watch TV shows or movies while also online. I tend to use a small bit at a time but fast enough so that the high steadily builds. I never just stop, though. I just keep going until either I'm nodding or (more likely) I'm tired enough to have a nap.

I used to be the same with alcohol (I was an alcoholic for 3 years...seven months sober now). I guess it's due to boredom? I don't have much of a social life and I don't have a job (I may abuse my meds and take way more than I'm supposed to but I do legitimately suffer severe chronic pain),

Does anyone else do this? I know it's pretty common on "Intervention" but when I read these forums I feel like I'm the only one that keeps going until they're ready for sleep. :/

Sorry if this is a weird or stupid question...I'm just looking for people in a similar position. And I'm very curious about when you stop a "session".

 

[xxxyyy]

it really depends. with alcohol i was the same as you, once i started drinking, i'd drink until i passed out. with opioids it depends, i actually really enjoy writing on them and if i plan on doing that i try to dose it so i'm not overtly tired but still nicely buzzed. however, i do love the nod and often will inject a good amount, put on some music and just lay back and enjoy the complete escape from reality. when it comes to benzos i usually find it a waste to take them as a sleep aid, there are tons of other medications around that work as soporifics well enough. since my benzo tolerance skyrockets incredibly fast due to ten years of abuse, i only take them for anxiety and sometimes just for the fuck of it. sometimes i overshoot my mark and pass out and that always pisses me off later.
but in general, no, i'm not good at all at moderating myself. i can pull it off much better with uppers because i have pretty massive problems with anxiety and insomnia anyway, so overdoing them is a big no-no. it has happened that i was unable to sleep for about three days from two lines of dex. these days i only take them if i have something for the come-down.

 

[Oxy8_8]

it really depends. with alcohol i was the same as you, once i started drinking, i'd drink until i passed out. with opioids it depends, i actually really enjoy writing on them and if i plan on doing that i try to dose it so i'm not overtly tired but still nicely buzzed. however, i do love the nod and often will inject a good amount, put on some music and just lay back and enjoy the complete escape from reality. when it comes to benzos i usually find it a waste to take them as a sleep aid, there are tons of other medications around that work as soporifics well enough. since my benzo tolerance skyrockets incredibly fast due to ten years of abuse, i only take them for anxiety and sometimes just for the fuck of it. sometimes i overshoot my mark and pass out and that always pisses me off later.
but in general, no, i'm not good at all at moderating myself. i can pull it off much better with uppers because i have pretty massive problems with anxiety and insomnia anyway, so overdoing them is a big no-no. it has happened that i was unable to sleep for about three days from two lines of dex. these days i only take them if i have something for the come-down.

Wow, I do pretty much exactly the same. I'm even also a writer
I use enough to just be buzzed (usually in conjunction with caffeine) when I'm writing or reading (I love both) but otherwise I don't have that control. I either watch favourite shows/movies in bed with the lights off on my laptop so I can just lie back and sleep. Or I lay back with music on, too.

Glad someone else out there is similar to me

I don't use benzos to sleep but when used together with opiates they tend to knock me out because I'm very new to them. I suffer severe anxiety so I tend to save my etizolam and xanax for when I get anxious or feel like I'm going to have a panic attack.

I'm also the same with uppers for the same reason. Stimulants help me write (focus, faster thinking, "flight of idea's") or when I need to be alert but I only use them in small doses and never have a problem staying at that low dose because my anxiety gets set off so easily that uppers generally just aren't worth it.

 

[Corazon]

For a few days I would have used opiates as an enhancer. Once tolerance and addiction sets in, I would eventually dose until nodding/sleeping.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

As I don't really like nodding out and being unable to function during the day, yeah I can definitely only do enough to get a moderate high and then stop.. waiting until later on in the day to do more.

 

[Chauncey_GARDENer]

Depends... Mostly a money thing. I know I wont nod from anything but the real deal... even after a year of heroin clean time, I still have an unexplainable tolerance... so just barely feeling the lortabs or whatever is all I will likely get. But with H i pretty much was ODing to get where I wanted to be. Just know that the nod is the cousin of death. Cliche, I know, I just know the respiratory depression can catch up to you... Especially being asleep cuz when you are asleep you are only breathing reflex breaths... Opiates kill that reflex up to the point where your body is comfortable without oxygen...

 

[Snake_Eyes]

I only dose once, if it doesn't get me to where I want to be then next time I'll either slightly increase my dose or take an extra week off.

 

[deidara]

sometimes, if I know I;m gonna have some in the morning then yeah I won't stop til I've got a good nod going. But sometimes if I don't have a lot of money or a lot of dope I can only do a certain amount cuz I know I'm gonna need the rest later

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Can you take some and reach a moderate high and then just stop?

Yes, and I find it incredibly easy.

Sadly, I can't use heroin/full agonists, as I know it'll be too good to me and I'll want to keep using it frequently enough to get dependent, and then addicted.

Benzos, bupe, etc. - very easy for me to take a moderate dosage and save the rest for later.

 

[Treefa]

Only if i have quite a surplus, which is hardly ever.

But occasionally yes, i love a good nod and a bowl of cannabis.

I'm also in chronic pain, and at my young age, doctors aren't exactly thrilled about giving out narcs to me, but they make it sooooo much easier for me to function.

Usually i have a set dose in mind. I get 30 hydrocodone 5mg a month, and usually take 4 a day, but somedays i take up to 10, just depends on how i feel.

While i enjoy nodding, i find it a waste, and i can no longer enjoy the vivid dream like state because, well, i no longer get the little dreams unless i'm on a dose that my bank account couldnt afford.

I actually got fucked up a few weeks ago for the first time in a long time. I thourougly enjoyed it (besides the not being able to piss well lol), besides the fact that as soon as i got home and ate that sammich, i was out like a light, which doesn't normally happen since opiates give me energy.

P.s. I'd combined appx 7X50 mg tramadol (morning), 2 op 20's(midday), and got a bottle of prometh/codeine and had had about 2oz, not to mention i was so faded i was SHARING my SIZZURP with the FAM...extremley out of character for me....and they didn't even ask!

 

[Oxy8_8]

Only if i have quite a surplus, which is hardly ever.

But occasionally yes, i love a good nod and a bowl of cannabis.

I'm also in chronic pain, and at my young age, doctors aren't exactly thrilled about giving out narcs to me, but they make it sooooo much easier for me to function.

Usually i have a set dose in mind. I get 30 hydrocodone 5mg a month, and usually take 4 a day, but somedays i take up to 10, just depends on how i feel.

While i enjoy nodding, i find it a waste, and i can no longer enjoy the vivid dream like state because, well, i no longer get the little dreams unless i'm on a dose that my bank account couldnt afford.

I actually got fucked up a few weeks ago for the first time in a long time. I thourougly enjoyed it (besides the not being able to piss well lol), besides the fact that as soon as i got home and ate that sammich, i was out like a light, which doesn't normally happen since opiates give me energy.

P.s. I'd combined appx 7X50 mg tramadol (morning), 2 op 20's(midday), and got a bottle of prometh/codeine and had had about 2oz, not to mention i was so faded i was SHARING my SIZZURP with the FAM...extremley out of character for me....and they didn't even ask!

Urgh SAME about not being able to piss. Sometimes I can feel my bladder is full and I sit on the toilet (I can NEVER piss standing up anymore for some reason) and feel the urine about to come out...but it just doesn't. Sometimes it EVENTUALLY does, other times I just have to give up an try again 10 minutes later.

My doctor often says I'm very young to be on so much opiate, too. Not sure why age matters exactly, though, as I am over 18.

 

[Sprout]

I use codeine so I kind of have no choice, due to enzyme inhibition, but to consume what I expect to be a suitable dose in one go, re-dosing is useless.
Or I'll very rarely use PST which is just an ass to prepare so one dose is usually all I'll prepare.

 

[Toz]

Can I reach a moderate high and then stop when using opiates? Yes, and it's probably one of the few drugs I can use in this manner.

This is how I most often use opiates, I don't usually take high enough doses to be nodding off completely. I like doing things on opiates, everything is great.

It depends a bit on which opiate and what ROA though. If I use heroin I most likely want to have a fat shot and nodd off for a few hours while smoking marijuana. If I use something weaker like codeine/tramadol I will just eat the pills and don't bother taking such a high dose since the side effects (itching nausea etc) have a tendancy to become annoying.

Opiates are not a moreish drug like amphetamine/alcohol etc for me. I take my dose and then I am fine for the duration of the effects. However I of course want more the next day

 

[ryand123]

I can't stop until I'm out cold. I've been on biped for almost 2 years now but during my full agonist addiction and a few times during my bupe therapy when I did heroin I always did enough to send me floating off to the dream world. The nod has always been my favorite part of opiates but I know a lot of people who don't like it cuz they like being able to walk around and go to work and shit.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

I'm all about the rush. That's why I do it. I like a strong rush and a modest euphoria afterwards. Nodding I really don't care for unless I'm home at night with nothing to do and ready to go to bed anyway.

 

[ryand123]

^ while the rush is definantly my second favorite part of the heroin experience, it's the falling in and out of reality that really tickles my fancy. Maybe that's why IV coke has never been all to great for me? Coke is all about the rush IME and since that's not what I look for in the IV experience maybe it's just not that enjoyable for me?

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^ while the rush is definantly my second favorite part of the heroin experience, it's the falling in and out of reality that really tickles my fancy. Maybe that's why IV coke has never been all to great for me? Coke is all about the rush IME and since that's not what I look for in the IV experience maybe it's just not that enjoyable for me?

If the rush isn't what you look for, what's the point of IV'ing? You'd get a longer duration of the effects you do like if you snort it.

 

[ryand123]

Don't get me wrong i love the rush, that is just my second favorite part of heroin. Meth though I like the rush, but I hate the rest if the stimulation that comes with it (in comparison to the rush that is). And ever since I started shooting I've picked up a little needle fetish. :/. But anyways I guess that is off topic, the point I was making is I won't stop using until I'm nodding (unless I know I will not have enough for later), so I do not believe I will ever be able to be ok with a 'moderate high' when I know I could be higher. Hence why I am on bupe. And I wholeheartedly believe it has saved my life. Ok I'm done I'm rambling

 

[benzoman12345]

I used to smoke weed and do coke,speed,e til stupid amounts like i couldnt control myself, dont do any of them now all anxiety inducing drugs for me , i can only take benzos for anxiety because of sky high tolerance, when it comes to opiates i stop when im proper nodding i know my limits.

 

[CheesyNKY]

I guess it kinda depends on how much loot I have. I usually try to do enough in my first dose that I am nodding for a while. That's pretty much what I am aiming for when doing dope. A rush and then a nod. When I mix benzo's with opiates though I always end up about dead. I will eat benzo's non stop and don't realize how many I have taken until it's too late. The only 2 times I have OD'd I have been on like 15mg of alprazolam.