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Can you have safe sex anymore? How many before you get STD?

john398

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Theres like 20 STDs, many of them being incurable, and a bunch of them that infects just by contact even if condom works 100%.
How many girls can you meet in a bar, hang out and have sex by the end of the night before you're stuck with an STD for the rest of your life...4? 5?
Am I being over paranoid? I can't help but think not really cuz theres 1 person of 5 that has an STD. And I'm not even considering if condom breaks...
 
You're being overly paranoid. It sounds like you either have OCD or are trying to justify an inability to get laid. Just make sure you have condoms that fit well to minimize the chance of it breaking, and avoid last call whores and Thai hookers.
 
Hey john 398, welcome to BL. I moved your thread to Sex, Love, and Relationships as it fits the content better.

There's totally still safe sex to be had, plenty of it. Quit picking up randos at the bar, and get to know a person before you take their clothes off! :) You can always ask them if they have any stds or ask them to go get tested with you.
 
yes you can. with yourself (assuming your hand is not disease ridden).

Condom's are prone to failure, so unless you take your date to the clinic to get tested, why risk it?
 
How many girls can you meet in a bar, hang out and have sex by the end of the night before you're stuck with an STD for the rest of your life...4? 5?
Am I being over paranoid? I can't help but think not really cuz theres 1 person of 5 that has an STD. And I'm not even considering if condom breaks...

Yes, they're pretty solid odds that living an unsafe sex life will result in an std, and it is stupid to not use condoms and in no way am I enforcing non-safe sex...with that being said...I think you may be a bit paranoid. Be smart about the situation. If a girl is letting you fuck her without a condom before she really knows you well, odds are she is more prone to having something as opposed to the girl who you fool around with a few times safely and occasionally lets you hit it raw. If you think someone your fucking has something, it's probably because they do.
I've been with at least 150 partners by now and im only 22. I'm currently std free and have had unsafe sex the majority of the time.
But remember, just always be smart about your decisions and get tested as often as needed.
 
Lately Iv been having a lot of unprotected sex, I sometimes ask myself the same question. I guess Ill find out soon.
 
you're probably not going to be thinking about percentages when you're raw doggin' that shit from the back, eh?
kidding...
it's really a game of chance, the calibur of broads you're banging, and being wise about it.
I've had hundreds of sexual partners, majority being unprotected (which I am not proud of, however I despise condoms), and I get myself checked ALL THE TIME. Everytime I have sex with a new partner unprotected, I swing down to the city health dept. and get a checkout. Hell, they know me by name. I'm like Norm from Cheers. At least I am conscious enough to have respect for myself and the future people I'm going to bang.
 
Why not just be blunt with a girl before you fuck them ( be like i am clean here are my papers to prove that, when was the last time you got checked out ), they will appreciate that a lot and allocate your penis as there personal dildo. Most girls hate the way
sex feels with a rubber on, so if they can find a penis is clean `100% and that person is always on point with harm reduction.... The girl will want to be with that person over most just for that fact alone.....You will be surprise how many fuck buddies I have made by being flat out honest with chicks.... Once they see you care about your health and there own, they will treat you way better..... Full on GFE(girlfriend effect) instead of a FB(Fuck Buddy) feeling
 
I think the OP is so anxious he's worried about catching something with the condom ON.

Look, if you're that worried - wait until you meet a girl you like, make a monogamous commitment, both of you can get tested then have fun.

Life, exercise, eating, crossing the road, taking drugs, fucking... all of these things involve a certain amount of risk. Life is about positive risk-taking, and this is a harm reduction website so most people on it are risk takers, to an extent.

You just need to decide if your anxiety about the risk overweights the potential pleasure.
 
This is one of the reasons I don't really do random hookups, etc. I've only had sex with two people and both of them got themselves checked before we had sex (and I did too!). Both were actual relationships as well. I'm not saying that hook ups and one night stands are bad or anything ... if I wasn't so worried about diseases and stuff, I'd probably go for it.
Make sure you always use a condom, for sure. When you're having sex, or about to have sex, check for basic things - smell, look, etc. It is not foolproof but still! If you notice she (or he) smells terrible then don't go for it :p.
 
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dont live in a state of fear :)

i worked in an STD clinic for 2 years, I also worked in a allergen-dermatologist specialist's office for almost 6 years (loooooootta herpes/hpv cases). i know the statistics better than most people.

im also std free, get tested every 6 months or so, my partner gets tested more frequently than that (due to other femme maintenance). im closing in on breaking 3 digits, though its a pretty hazy figure as i cant say i keep count. were quite non-monogamous, and have sex with a lot of people.

youre right in that there is no 100% safe method for coitus. herpes/hpv/etc can be transmitted by skin-to-skin contact, condoms wont "save" you there, but its not like theyre pointless either. its really about how you live your lifestyle, how you judge someone else's lifestyle experience, and not going about such things mindlessly. your stats are also custom tailored for nightly news viewers - you cant randomly select 5 human beings from planet earth and assume 1 of them has an STD. you might select 500,000 who have none. you might select 10 who all have HIV. it comes down to a lot of minor details, but the point is that if you exercise awareness, stay highly communicative with and respectful of your partners, and always have safe sex, you minimize a lot of things. there are far scarier things to fear in life, namely driving an automobile or perhaps the federal reserve. this sort of attitude is a lot like being terrified of flying in an airplane, but having no problem getting behind the wheel of a car. do you tremble with fear when someone nearby smokes a cigarette? no, because youve trained your mind to perceive such a thing as normal. so therein lies the real issue - youve either succumbed to the state-of-fear which governs most Americans, and your preconceived notion of certain things or events contains a much more emotional charge than others. youre much more likely to die from irradiated foods, heart disease, and colon cancer while being a virgin, than you are by being a big slut.

everything is a risk. you risk your life when you walk across a street and assume the monkey behind the car in oncoming traffic will stop. you take a risk when you strap a rubber on and stick it in someone else's body. like all things in life, be it sports, drugs, hosteling, or fucking, you can go about it 3 ways: be afraid and do nothing at all, be mindless and increase likelihood of an undesirable outcome, or be well informed and make informed and responsible decisions and decrease the chances.

i shudder at the thought of only making intimate contact with 4 or 5 people in life... such a tragedy!

Well, I bet you're a fun first date.

omg rofl

... When you're having sex, or about to have sex, check for basic things - smell, look, etc. It is foolproof but still! If you notice she smells terrible then don't go for it :p.

was this an attempt at humor?

if not, are you 12? and what is the focus on "she" anyways? do we have a misogynistic SLR mod? or merely another victim of the patriarchal state, echoing its deeply embedded fear of female anatomy?

i fail to see the association with "scent" and disease. do you believe someone who smells like a bouquet of spring flowers cant possibly have HIV and Hep C and HSV2?

though, i doubt youve made such a connection, a highly acidic scent is often (though not always) a sign of high blood pH, which in turn signifies a comprimised immuno defense system. this is mainly due to poor diet, or perhaps, a typical "Western" diet. most westerners do live in a state of total acidification at all times, but this doesnt imply someone's duckbutter also carries the same scent either. in any event, crotch odor, in whatever form, in no way shape or form signifies any level of pathogenic activity with respect to STDs.

im a bit taken back that someone who has been on here for a year and has 1k posts gets a modstick. i bet if i comb the focus forums, ill find some mod talking about triplestacked e pills with mescalin in them. sometimes i wonder if bl is like crack. i keep coming back here expecting it to be like when i first tried it, but instead, i end up with this nasty ass taste in my mouth and strange voices in my head. wtf happened?!
 
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was this an attempt at humor?

if not, are you 12? and what is the focus on "she" anyways? do we have a misogynistic SLR mod? or merely another victim of the patriarchal state, echoing its deeply embedded fear of female anatomy?

i fail to see the association with "scent" and disease. do you believe someone who smells like a bouquet of spring flowers cant possibly have HIV and Hep C and HSV2?

though, i doubt youve made such a connection, a highly acidic scent is often (though not always) a sign of high blood pH, which in turn signifies a comprimised immuno defense system. this is mainly due to poor diet, or perhaps, a typical "Western" diet. most westerners do live in a state of total acidification at all times, but this doesnt imply someone's duckbutter also carries the same scent either. in any event, crotch odor, in whatever form, in no way shape or form signifies any level of pathogenic activity with respect to STDs.

im a bit taken back that someone who has been on here for a year and has 1k posts gets a modstick. i bet if i comb the focus forums, ill find some mod talking about triplestacked e pills with mescalin in them. sometimes i wonder if bl is like crack. i keep coming back here expecting it to be like when i first tried it, but instead, i end up with this nasty ass taste in my mouth and strange voices in my head. wtf happened?!

No, this was not funny. I'm not sure why I would hate women. I mean, I'm a female myself. I was saying "she" as the OP stated he was a male and having sex with females, not other males. In his situation, it would be a "she" that he'd be dealing with. I edited my post so that it added the (and he) so that no one would get offended. And no, I'm not 12 years old, I am 21 years old. I'm not really sure why you're getting all upset about my post.

I never said that someone who smelled good could not have a disease. I said that if she (or he ... even though the OP is male and looking at females, not other males) smelled gross or looked dirty, don't go for it. Use your common sense. Like I said, it isn't foolproof, but it is another caution you can (and should) take.
 
rm-rf said:
was this an attempt at humor?

if not, are you 12? and what is the focus on "she" anyways? do we have a misogynistic SLR mod? or merely another victim of the patriarchal state, echoing its deeply embedded fear of female anatomy?

rm -rf, I suggest you do the fucking IRL equivalent of typing of 'sudo rm -rf /*' to your brain.

rm -rf said:
in any event, crotch odor, in whatever form, in no way shape or form signifies any level of pathogenic activity
Because, there exist no pathogens which infection by may cause an odor. I am pretty sure, say, a raging infection of C.perfringens with myonecrosis could/would give rise to a profoundly unpleasant odour. Signify is a verbed form of sign a sign is a physical finding that indicates a disease. Thus, here, the finding upon physical examination of a person with such a disease process ongoing, one may expect to notice a [to quote the Merck Manual) "particularly foul odour".

While hardly likely you'll be hooking up with someone who has gas gangrene, my argument shows that a foul odour around the crotch is a sign of a pathogenic process. Holding that the premise "myonecrosis causes an odour" "myonecrosis is pathogenic" "myonecrosis can occur around the crotch" "a sign is a finding indicating a pathogenic process" have a truth value of 1

it follows your premise "crotch odour in whatever form in no way signifies a pathogen" must then, have a truth value of 0.
rm -rf said:
i fail to see the association with "scent" and disease. do you believe someone who smells like a bouquet of spring flowers cant possibly have HIV and Hep C and HSV2?
No, its very possible they have no odour. However, Hep C can lead to cirrhosis, which can cause fetor hepaticus, a scent on the breath which is a strong sign of cirrhosis.

In any case, the lack of or the finding of a single sign is generally not enough diagnose or exclude something based on, but to say that a sign has absolutely no chance of indicating a disease seems far fetched.

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youre much more likely to die from irradiated foods, heart disease, and colon cancer while being a virgin, than you are by being a big slut.

While there is ambiguity here as to what you mean by irradiated, I am going to assume you mean the real/used form of high energy photon irradiation. How is this a higher risk than dying of STD (or anything). Lets review some elementary physics! Alright, there is more than one 'thing' called radiation. For the sake of this premise, I believe only electromagnetic(photonic) and particle (alpha, beta, heavy ions, blah blah go read the standard model) Now, as it tends to food, which lacks an innate accelerator in it. We may worry about EM radiation. (Y decay) or particle (a,b decay) from unstable nuclides in our food.

All things tend have some level of unstable isotopes in them due to the earth having them in its crust. We can't do much about that. They are rare and of little concern anyways. However, stable species can transmute into unstable ones after being irradiated. However, this only occurs if you bombard the correct starting material with the correct type of PARTICLE radiation. For example, subject 59-Co to a high neutron flux, you get a single neutron capture to 60-Co, which then decays via Y decay with a ~5yr halflife and bichromatic, high energy spectrum. This is bad for you. Do not eat 60-Co.

Now, EM radiation on the other hand, does not cause transmutation of nuclei. So, the X-ray or Gamma irradiation on your food, does not, can not, according all known physics, cause induced radioactivity in your food. Nor, does it, as far as I have read or heard, cause the production of new molecular species which are systemically toxic via gastric administration.

Again, it appears your premise "irradiated foods are more likely to kill you then infectious disease" has the truth value 0.

Now, explain to me again how{infectious disease} has no subset {signs} or that the subset {signs} has no member "odour" is a logically valid statement.

Also, tell me about how I'm a misogynist who is afraid of female human sexual organs. Cause dammit, I really can not remember hating woman, or having fear regarding female sexual organs. Oh wait! You made up some premises, jumped to a conjecture from them and presented it as having been proofed and thus now a theorem!
 
there was another dude up there with a similar story, but I have had sex with over 200 people (including a little ghey sex which carries a higher chance of getting an STD) and never gotten one, and I ALWAYS wore a condom unless I was in a monagamous relationship with someone who had been tested.
 
yes you can. with yourself (assuming your hand is not disease ridden).

Condom's are prone to failure, so unless you take your date to the clinic to get tested, why risk it?

Just to be safe, I'm not even jerking off anymore.

/carlin.

OP: Just use your head. You can't be afraid to experience life.

As an afterthought, it seems hardly proper to write of life without once mentioning happiness; so we shall let the reader answer this question for himself: who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed?
 
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