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but you aren't testing the whole pill, are you?

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PlatipuS

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hi ..
a friend brought up a good point and i thought it'd be good to ask opinions here ..
when you scrape off the edge of a pill to test, and it turns whatever colour, thats just testing the portion you scraped off, and, technically, theres no way to be sure that the remainder is going to be the same substance.
do people here just assume that pills are the same substance from one side to the other, top to bottom, or has this concern been brought up before ? (search not working at the moment sorry)
 
yep it's quite possible to dip the pill in what ever so yes, good point, test a scape from the inside too.
 
of course, and it gives no real indications to what else is in the pills, or how much of it, or tests for the presence of anything except a very limited range of substances...
BUT it is better than doing nothing at all.
a great majority of pilltakers still believe they know whats in their pills because the guy who sold it to them told them. at least now some of those people know to do the test. to find out at least what might be in them.
if we lived in the netherlands we could go to police stations, hand over our pill, and come back in 20 minutes and find out exactly what is in the pill, and it's strength.
but we don't, and we can't, and it seems unlikely we ever will. so we do what we can.
taking drugs is always a risk. but eve minimising that risk by a few percent is a good idea.
 
Here's a thought...
Good quality pills would be properly pressed to contain an equal amount of filler/active ingredient throughout the pill.
Low quality pills might have some crap in one corner, and different crap in a different corner... Test different parts of that pill and if you get different reactions you've prolly got a dodgy pill
...mind you this is just speculation, i've got no idea now pills are pressed (specifically, I do have a general idea) so I could be way off the track
If people are that worried they could test their pills a few times and compare results...
 
Tarsalan point is very good.
i like to scrape about three small flakes off the side of a pill then test these to see they all have the same reaction.
Also if u are taking the pill in halves it is always good to cut it earlier and test a small scraping from the centre to see what if the reaction is the same.
I also think it is good to break a pill in half anyway even if your having the full at once just take both halves cause i have have had the centre of pills test a different reaction about 2 or 3 times.
I only ever test one pill out of a batch of the same kind. I know one person who tests every single pill take which again is a good idea as i have seen pills from the same batch well look identical as though they are the same batch even been bought together and still test differenetly, which i found strange.
anyway enought from me
have fun
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It would be a pretty big job to make a pill half with something around the outside and half of somthing else on the inside, I don't think many producers would go to the trouble, but then again it is possible. That is the only way I could really get done over because I test my pills about 3 times from different side of the pill and take a fair chunk off it. I have seen tests come out slightly different at times. The Buddhas came out different for me. One section of the pill was light purple, the other one went to a really dark purple almost black. It didn't bother me as long as it goes some type of purple because you can't tell much more until you eat the pill. Some of the best pills I have had have just gone a light purple, so that just goes to show the darker the purple or black means jack. I guess all you want to know is if the pill contains speed or harmful chemicals. I don't mind sacrificing a large part of the pill as I normally buy more than one at a time.
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Like MOTOMAN I normally buy more than one pill and even though I test one beforehand I always try to test most of them from different scrapings. The greater the sample the better odds!
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As mentioned above, I find that it's sometimes best to test scrapings from the centre of a pill for a couple of reasons:
a. You get to check how hard pressed the pill is.
b. You get a "fresh" sample of the pill that hasn't been externally affected since pressing, rather than perhaps being contaminated by other chemicals carried in the same bag (ie. "empty" bag that once contained speed may put traces of speed powder on the outside of a pill leading to false test result etc.)
c. "Nice test result, purple/black from the centre of the pill. Oh... but now what do I do - there's a broken one *munch*"
BigTrancer
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I don't want to sound paranoid, but just consider how much of what you're writing could help send you to Jail.
 
most d.d's these days i find are nice enough to let me test a pill! then they can say it went so/so color!
like lots of the above said!
Break the suckers in half! i test a pill twice or three times! especially if its a very speckly pill!
On quality pills ive found that most the darker specks are more of a crystal form compaired to the rest of the pill(powdery).IMOA
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in my experience a pill that tests purple/black will mostly be consistent throughout the pill. if you look at the dancesafe tests in the states, good MDxx pills only contain the one substance.
if the pill tests clear or orange thats when i would be retesting it from the inside.. because it is the speed and K pills that would be more likely to be combination pills.
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There were some pills going around perth recently, no name or score an off white colour with slightly darker specks.
I've been told they actually have a trip inside!
Oh yeah and most hard well pressed pills arn't that good cuz real MDMA won't hold together properly with any amount of whatever they happen to be using to make it stay together
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NO WAY man! "Good" methylenedioxymethamphetamine (aka MDMA) is just like "good" acetylsalycylic acid (aka aspirin) and "good" caffiene - ANY POWDER CHEMICAL CAN BE PRESSED INTO PILL FORM!!! They all just need a binding agent and filler - ALL pills have these, and they are ALL inert substances (i.e. they have no psychoactive effect). Think of it like eating an MDMA/sugar pill. Would you say that pill is not "pure"? Of course not, the sugar would have no effect! So many people are confused on this issue of pill purity! It's time to clear it up for everybody.
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Yes, you can't tell what a pill is by how hard it is. Once or twice though, pills we've seen have a kind of shiny (almost) surface and were quite hard, we thought they might have been that gooey speed pressed into pills. And we've often (not always) found that harder pressed pills have turned out to be speedy...
But as citrus said, it's the binding agent, so maybe all the speedy crap ones were made by the same people with the same binding agent...
but hey, you can never make a judgement from what it looks like can you... testtesttest!
Now what was the original topic again?
Oh that's right! Someone I know did get pills that had a different surface colour to the inside colour once. And with test kits being everywhere, I wouldn't put it past those coniving drug producers to do what they had to to sell their stock!!!
(no offence, love your work
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re: acid tabs in pills.
thats no myth. i found chopped bits of paper in pills b4.
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with the acid in pills myth, sure you can find bits of paper in pills, but there's a small problem.
LSD is a very delicate chemical. it most likely will not survive the pill pressing process, as a lot of heat is involved.
so maybe some makers do put tabs in, but it's unlikely that you, the user, are going to get anything out of it...
 
umm, wat i did was, chop up the pill and collected the bits of paper. and took the paper bits separately... i defnitely tripped.
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i didnt think so too, until i tried it for myself. i was tripping balls.
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the bits were chopped up, but very recognisably still bits of paper. darkish color, kinda like timothy learies background color actually. but could be any other kinda tab.
the dark bits showed up abit in the pressed pill, which was why i decided to chop it up and see if they were really paper.
the pill in subject is a pink star heart. a pretty good speedbomb i must say (if there are such things as good speedbombs). i had taken them b4 as a whole pill, and the acid effects were not as obvious, the only outstanding thing was that it lasted a really long time! the second time, was when i decided to chop it up, and take the paper bits by themselves.... and yep, acid for sure.
disclaimer: i dont like speedbombs, MDXX plus rock wizz is my poison of choice.
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