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Donny834

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so I recently bought some MDMA from a buddy who ive raved with and partied with for many years. I trust his opinion on drugs and I know hes just about as experienced as I am with over 5+ years of doing the stuff. He told me he recently got some MDMA that was the best he had ever had and that it tested black within 3 seconds. Trusting him i bought 2grams and tonight I will be taking it. He gave me a huge warning not to take more than 1-1.5 points at a time because this stuff was so strong it can be overwhelming at even that amount. His explanation was that taking 2 points for him was like taking 4-5points of other decent mdma. Now this MDMA is different, its a dark brown/auburn color and its not dry, its a wet almost pasty texture. I was wondering if anyone has any previous experience with MDMA like this? any ideas?

heres a pic of the stuff after i cut the ball of it up a bit

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I had mdma that came in a dark brown waxy chunk, and when we tested it the reagent turned black almost instantly, very strong stuff.
However we can't tell you for sure if yours is mdma or not, I'd invest in some testing kits, they're very cheap, dancesafe has them for $20 for a bottle of 50 drops I believe
 
I have had MDMA that is mostly small white crystals with a pink tint, to large Brown chuncks.

MDMA can vary based on the bi-products in it. No MDMA is pure, even the highest quality MDMA is really only 80% pure, so it can change a lot.

The ONLY way to know is to buy a test kit. They are cheap and may just save your life. Buy one. Or twenty.
 
A. buy a test kit.

B. sounds a lot like what I have, big dark brown chunks, a bit moist, un godly potent. I'm 220 lbs and a point floors me.
 
ive had brown crystals thats been really good. dont let the color judge it for you.
 
Best MDMA ive ever (and always) had has been brownny, almost wet brown sugar like, fucking mint stuff. Fuck know why it ends up like that, but its always quality, then again you could have been sold some mud so you know all Bl and that.. test,
 
I agree with folley.
Bottom line if it's colored brown, then the chemist either didn't flush out all the remaining compounds (most times from inexperience, but also to add to yields) ...
or the chemist has intentionally added other drugs/ substances to provide particular effects to replicate those of M..
I've had dark brown chunks (last yr) that looked like chocolate, a little bit of a grayish brown tint in the middle when chunks were broken open... Had me wired but was completely shit for sympathy and other desired effects... And this stuff burned the tongue when ingested....to me I feel like the chemist may have missed the flush altogether and then some...

Recently I have also tried a light brown powder that is more like a fine (flour-like) powder, as opposed to crystal chunks/powder im used to. The effects were almost bang on, however when it came time I wanted to fuck, I was having difficulties in that department (which to me is clear evidence the product was adulterated, or better yet a completely different drug altogether)..
Another incident last yr, I picked up some clearish white crystal powder thinking it was pure m. The looks were spot on, but after consuming more than 4 points foolishly (2 and then redosed with 2 an hour later)...i knew I was dealing with something else like methylone (perhaps).. I felt zero, love, passion, sympathy, and even my appreciation for music wasn't much to party river ( how the music sounds is generally one my first indications of coming up and judging product strength).

I dont have test kits because I am in Canada and still working on getting the marquis for the right price here. But this is a good example of how you never really know what your getting.

If the government would use their brain and consider producing safe mdma for consumers, all the adulterated products would disappear, and we would only ever see one type of mdma powder.... I've seen countless articles in the paper about out how ecstasy can be safe...one of British Columbia's health ministers (or someone like that) even suggested it makes more since for us to regulate it like alcohol! Will have to pull up that article for yas....
 
enzo9922 said:
The effects were almost bang on, however when it came time I wanted to fuck, I was having difficulties in that department (which to me is clear evidence the product was adulterated, or better yet a completely different drug altogether)..
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If you're just talking about getting it up, not the sex itself, that's quite normal with real MDMA too. If I am rolling really hard it takes me at least half an hour to 45 minutes to achieve salute =D that's normal with (large doses of) amphetamines. Everyone I know that rolls experiences the same when they roll hard...
 
with most synth drugs, i dont think it takes much impurity to throw the color off much. for example the dope around here, even the most fire shit that is higher purity is never pure white. its always a color of some sort. so the MDMA you have could def be some quality stuff, but a little color cant be the deciding factor.
 
he recently got some MDMA that was the best he had ever had and that it tested black within 3 seconds
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Reagent test will test for presence for MDMA and speed of reaction will give a vague indication of purity strength. "Vague" being the operative word here. By looking at the reactions carefully you can also see some adulterants but not all.

Trusting him i bought 2grams and tonight I will be taking it. He gave me a huge warning not to take more than 1-1.5 points at a time because this stuff was so strong it can be overwhelming at even that amount
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Even adulterated rubbish at this dose is kinda crazy.

Now this MDMA is different, its a dark brown/auburn color and its not dry, its a wet almost pasty texture.
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Coloured product only indicates impurity of some type as to what its very difficult to speculate. A lot of MDMA lab chemists I have heard chatting about brown unclean product being more popular and very rarely do they bother cleaning and filtering to white. Brown is in user terms "more balls to the walls" as a result the chemist / lab cater to the demand. It would seem the impurities add to the buzz. Clean white is a different high.

Wet pasty texture is indication of hydrous meaning it is attracting water. Certain salts can have this effect. MDMA tartrate or sulphate is notorius for being very hydrous and very quickly turns into a sticky gooo. An MDMA sulphate or Tartrate would definitely produce a different buzz so this maybe why he is saying he likes this goo MDMA :D

Also different salts produce different purities. The 80% mentioned is linked to MDMA hydrochloride. Infact its 84% max purity thats 16% is hydrochloride molecule and 84% is MDMA molecule. If you change the salt type which sounds like you have then MDMA tartrate becomes 43% Tartric Molecule and 57% MDMA molecule (57% pure) and MDMA Sulphate becomes 67% MDMA Molecule 33% Sulphuric Molecule (67% pure).

I thought this myth was put to rest
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Its not a myth the debate is "is this detail really necessary?" In my opinion knowledge is power. Some say knowledge in the wrong hands spells danger. I am kind of on the fence with this topic.

MDMA.HCl is 100% pure as long as there are no synthesis impurities and no adulterants added. Now, how impure average MDMA is, I don't know... but I'm sure it's over 80%.
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On the basis MDMA is produced in clan labs we are literally speculating in terms of purity. Sit us next to a GC/MS machine and we have facts otherwise throw us in a forum with a gang of drug addled ravers with test kits and your guess is as good as mine. Are you getting a good buzz? if yes then $ £ Euros in :D

I am in Canada and still working on getting the marquis for the right price here.
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If your struggling sourcing marquis just make it. Acid + formaldhyde and your good to go. ebay is your friend :)

If the government would use their brain and consider producing safe mdma for consumers, all the adulterated products would disappear, and we would only ever see one type of mdma powder..
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Not so sure about this. There are many types of whiskey wouldnt MDMA in your local grocery store follow the same pattern?
 
@bluebull - I hear what you are saying bro but im not talking about blowing a load lol, im talking about getting it up altogether...
in my eyes the sex is always better if the m is better, and when it's good, im like a porn star rolling in Viagra... But in this case it was quite the opposite...difficult (and later failure) just producing a rock hard piece...whereas i have never had this problem before, so i am to assume the product i had was adulterated.
 
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@bluebull - I hear what you are saying bro but im not talking about blowing a load lol, im talking about getting it up altogether...
in my eyes the sex is always better if the m is better, and when it's good, im like a porn star rolling in Viagra... But in this case it was quite the opposite...difficult (and later failure) just producing a rock hard piece...whereas i have never had this problem before, so i am to assume the product i had was adulterated.
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Yeah I was talking about getting it up too =D That's perfectly normal on MDMA when using high doses and still rolling (on the comedown after a heavy roll it's not that difficult but still harder than normal). Every amphetamine has the effect of not being able to get it up or having difficulties getting it up (as in: it takes a while). And yes the sex IS better when the m is better because MDMA produces a lot of loving, sensual, caring and especially horny feelings, but in contrast to that getting it up is harder when the m is better (or more accurate: when you roll harder because of the higher quality m). Amphetamines are vasoconstrictive so they make it harder to get blood in there because of constricted blood vessels, it's a normal reaction for an amphetamine like MDMA is. This symtom for me is never indicative of an adulterant (though I test everything so never have adulterants) but on the contrary indicative of the fact I have taken MDMA (or at least an amphetamine) and it's like that for I think about everyone. If I really binge on MDMA I will feel these effects up to 2 days after rolling. I can see what confused you. I shouldn't try to make up expressions like "give salute" when my main language is not English. I meant getting it up by that (as in a soldier stretching his arm out to salute =D )

*edit* from the erowid MDMA page, under "negative effects":
erectile disfunction and difficulty reaching orgasm
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@futura2012 - thats funny u mention making my own because I tried talking to my "papa" at work, I asked if he has sulfuric acid and formaldehyde in the lab, and at first he goes "yesss I have that......wtf you want acid for, you trying to make sone chemicals or someshit!" lol....long story short, he thought I was making a bomb of sme kind of crazy drug, and wouldn't hook it up haha...
Wouldn't those be items that the watchdog keeps a close eye on though if I were to order online? Formaldehyde is poison correct?

and about the whiskey....sure there are plenty of different kinds of whiskey on the market, but every bottle (or most I would think) also have a list of ingredients and are legally obligated to present all materials in the drink....like in Bombay, the sides of the bottle show that they've added things like lemon peel, almond, liquorice etc.
At least if the government regulated the ecstasy, there would he warning labels and ingredients. Like perhaps there would be hippy flip Es (led and mdma), or psychedelic M (MDma and mda)....

sure they may have different flavors, but at least we would know what we are ingesting....
 
@futura, echoing enzo9922 - yeah there are different kinds of whiskeys but the active ingredient in all of them is ethanol...you don't find "adultered" bottles of whiskey in the liquor store. I'm not saying I would want MDMA to be found in your local grocery store but I don't see quite what you were getting at?

I had no idea a marquis test kit could be made so easily, i'll have to look more into that..
 
I Personally would want to see ecstasy sold in stores instead of sold on the streets... Prescription or not, I dont care. Its unfair that people die, because of the black market.
If I want to experience wild feelings of love sympathy and emotions, I should have every right to do so in a safe manner, the same way millions of people are allowed to buy alcohol and get stupid drunk and depressed. If they drink too much, thats their own responsibility. I shouldn't have to go from clubs to raves and friend to friend trying to find REAL mdma....there is absolutely nothing safe about that.
But if the govt would step up and be a real adult about the situation, they would realize that they could save lives, provide people with a safe, taxed product that will help benefit them, and would practically destroy the black market for these drugs, therefore improving social standard and removing organized crime.
The only reason why it is still illegal is because the government probably feels like a bunch of dumb assholes for creating this huge fucking mess in the first place. as soon as a new drug is synthesized, it becomes illegal to fair trade making it the next best thing to boost organized crime...
 
Would definitely like to know more about making a marquis test kit though, what legal reasons would a normal person purchase these products for? And where do u find stuff like that...?
 
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