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Benzos Brotizolam (=triazolam, supposedly)

tyler5

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hi,

what are your experiences with this hypnotic?
any euphoria like temazepam,midazolam,flunitrazepam?
if you have experiences with both triazolam and brotizolam, what are the differences and how pronounced, if at all, are they?

edit: and if no exp. with brot. then just share what triazolam is like imho.

lets discuss
 
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Brotizolam is equipotent to triazolam (0.25 mg brot = 0.25 mg triaz), but I have never tried brotizolam (YET!).

Triazolam i have had many experiences with and it's one of my favorite benzos (among my top 5). I have heard that brotizolam is heavily hypnotic, but I don't know if it is more hypnotic than triazolam.
Triazolam in my experience has been the most sedating benzo -- and i have tried a wide variety of hypnotic benzos, including strong ones like temazepam, flunitrazepam, nitrazepam, midazolam, etc.

I have not found triazolam to be euphoric, at least not like temazepam, nitrazepam, or flunitrazepam. But it is still a very nice benzo, and i doubt that brotizolam would be nicer.
 
so its like a strict knock-out benzo with no 'desireable' side-effects?

for example like midazolam, which not only has nice effects orally/sublingually, but the intenseness of the euphoria produced by IV midazolam is something one would not necessarily associate with benzos. :\ (in a good way)

kokaino: why would You doubt on brotizolam being superior to triazolam? im not saying either is better because i dont know and thats why i made this thread. just interested to know what you basing your opinion on.

what about the topic of discussion of triazolam vs brotizolam? i dont think theres been any extensive discussion about these two hypnotics being compared on here before.

i know that one of them is rarer than the other so there probably not many people here on bluelight whove had the change to experience both of these hypnotics extensively ,(yet separately), enough to give a proper review of the differences.

so if youve only experienced one of the two, would be great to hear your opinion about the experience and, if so, what drugs did You use with it?

so any opinions are welcome, even if youve only done either of once.
 
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so its like a strict knock-out benzo with no 'desireable' side-effects?

for example like midazolam, which not only has nice effects orally/sublingually, but the intenseness of the euphoria produced by IV midazolam is something one would not necessarily associate with benzos. :\ (in a good way)

kokaino: why would You doubt on brotizolam being superior to triazolam? im not saying either is better because i dont know and thats why i made this thread. just interested to know what you basing your opinion on.

what about the topic of discussion of triazolam vs brotizolam? i dont think theres been any extensive discussion about these two hypnotics being compared on here before.

i know that one of them is rarer than the other so there probably not many people here on bluelight whove had the change to experience both of these hypnotics extensively ,(yet separately), enough to give a proper review of the differences.

so if youve only experienced one of the two, would be great to hear your opinion about the experience and, if so, what drugs did You use with it?

so any opinions are welcome, even if youve only done either of once.

the reason I don't think that brotizolam will stand up to triazolam is because I have read enough from ppl that have compared the two and the vast majority seemed to prefer triazolam.
In my experience, i sort of used midazolam as a measuring stick. I've tried midazolam (orally) and triazolam and i prefer triazolam to it by quite a margin. Midazolam was quite disappointing, in fact. So the way i'm looking at it is like this: if midazolam wasn't better than triazolam, i highly doubt brotizolam will beat it out.
 
Sorry to bring this old thread back to life...

I've got brotizolam and etizolam (in bulk, lab grade >99% ) and as they're not available as sleep medications in my country I've never done them in a form of pills. Anyway, I was wondering how strong brotizolam really is. They're triazolo derivatives of thienodiazepine, I've never taken any before. I've just taken pyrazolodiazepine derivative from some rare stuff and when it came to comparing it on a mg basis with other benzodiazepines, I found out you need 3-4mg to substitute 1mg of clonazepam although effects are different of course.

So I wonder, how is it different in feeling compared to the most resembling benzodiazepine - triazolam? Is it really 1:1 ratio? Is it more sedative, does it knock out at proper dose better? I've yet to replace my 1 dose of clonazepam per day with 3 doses of brotizolam and etizolam but the thing is I take anywhere from 5mg to 10mg of clonazepam (depends on the day, I control my aggressiveness coming from anxiety with it now, I get no "high" from 10mg). As I'm reading 0.25-0.5mg is used as a hypnotic dose, I'm guessing I would have to take a similar dose on a milligram basis to my clonazepam doses only that I would have to redose it every 4-6 hours. How about brotizolam's and etizolam's muscle relaxing and anticonvulsant properties? Are they there? It's not a ridiculous question because there are benzodiazepines that actually lack these properties at low doses (e.g. bromazepam is actually a pure anxiolytic at doses used medically and anticonvulsant action is very weak at 3mg or 6mg).
 
the reason I don't think that brotizolam will stand up to triazolam is because I have read enough from ppl that have compared the two and the vast majority seemed to prefer triazolam.
In my experience, i sort of used midazolam as a measuring stick. I've tried midazolam (orally) and triazolam and i prefer triazolam to it by quite a margin. Midazolam was quite disappointing, in fact. So the way i'm looking at it is like this: if midazolam wasn't better than triazolam, i highly doubt brotizolam will beat it out.

I believe Midazolam is pretty useless orally......but IV is a different story.
 
I haven't tried brotizolam, but triazolam is my fav. I think the most people say flunitrazepam is the most enjoyable benzo, and me too, i agree with this, but triazolam is a little better for me, though it's not as strong as flunit. is. Haven't try midazolam, something that i wanna do. But as for triazolam, yeah, it really rocks..%):)


MartinFn
 
Midazolam injected intravenously in one shot with morphine or heroin (or any opioid good i.v.'ed) gives a great high and it has definitely never had any bad impact on nodding. It's a great benzodiazepine derivative, it's just useless taken orally. I don't know if a person without tolerance can fall asleep after the suggested dose (7.5-15mg orally). I remember I liked it when I could get Midanium (it's a Polish brand midazolam in ampules) although it's easy to get it out from the pills and ampules are only for inpatient care so it must be some right from the wholesale company warehouse.
 
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