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I know someone that is about to have a baby. She has smoked pot for a number of years and has cut down a lot throughout the pregnancy. She plans to breastfeed but wants to know if there are any harm reduction tips out there. Please put judgements aside and respond with facts. Thanks.
 
I'd definitly suggest NOT smoking while breast feeding, although if she goes out of her way not to smoke a lot and exercise a lot (the more THC that is metabolized before it gets pass through breast milk the better) it won't be that bad.

But she'd be better off making a choice: Smoke pot and feed the kid formula (a good option) or stop smoking and breast feed. It depends on what she wants to do more. Some people could care less about breast feeding and are more than willing to give their kids formula. Some people want to breastfeed. If she really wants to breast feed, definitly don't smoke that often, if at all.
 
haibane said:
I know someone that is about to have a baby. She has smoked pot for a number of years and has cut down a lot throughout the pregnancy. She plans to breastfeed but wants to know if there are any harm reduction tips out there. Please put judgements aside and respond with facts. Thanks.
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put judgements aside? How? Your telling me the Mother actually smoked pot while pregnant, that is so not responsible- here are some quick facts to pass on to your mother to be:

"Maternal marijuana use may also damage genes, possibly resulting in birth defects or cancer and lead to increased risk of attention disorders and learning problems later in life. Marijuana has also been shown to adversely affect placental function and the fetal endocrine system, potentially interfering with the successful completion of pregnancy."

Why would a future Mom put her baby at these risk? Why not give the child the best, and let it start its life without the possibilty of defects

Ohh, about breastfeeding
http://www.babycenter.com/expert/3131.html

Question: Is it safe to smoke marijuana while breastfeeding?

Answer: Marijuana use is widespread, but it's important that you understand the implications of its use during lactation. As a general rule, you should abstain from alcohol, tobacco, and drugs (most prescription and over-the-counter medications, and all recreational kinds) during pregnancy and lactation


Ok, heres my personal feeling...this mother to be should not be a Mother...She should of stopped all rec drugs when she was pregnant period.. She obvisouly does not have the maturity to be a mother...

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my wife smoked for years before our daughters pregnancy. Even the dr. told her NOT to stop. She said that could actually be worse for the baby. But the Dr. said to cut back, which she did.


So here we are 21 yrs later. My daughter holds a 4.0 gpa in college and suffres no side effects from my wifes smoking pot. I would tell her to cut down if she has not already.
 
nightfun said:
my wife smoked for years before our daughters pregnancy. Even the dr. told her NOT to stop. She said that could actually be worse for the baby. But the Dr. said to cut back, which she did.


So here we are 21 yrs later. My daughter holds a 4.0 gpa in college and suffres no side effects from my wifes smoking pot. I would tell her to cut down if she has not already.
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please, explain to me why the DR told her not to stop smoking, how could it be worse? LOL .. That is complete bullshit
 
21 years ago, the effects of smoke on babies intrauterinely weren't as well known or accepted, dark lord. my husbands parents smoked while pregnant, and weren't told to stop either. and we all know for a fact cigarette smoke is much more dangerous than marijuana


personally, i smoked a few times, when the nausea and headaches were really bad. I am not a pot head, never have been, it was purely medicinal. i felt it to be safer not to mention more effective than the drugs the doc gave me.

my recomendations, haibane, would be to only smoke at night, after the last feeding. and if possible, express a few times before the feeding in the morning. But I dont know how long the thc takes to leave teh system through the breatst milk, some googling of medical studies would be prudent for you and her to do.

frankly, a bit of THC in breast milk is still better than the shit you get in the bottle, imnsho
 
DarthMom said:
21 years ago, the effects of smoke on babies intrauterinely weren't as well known or accepted, dark lord. my husbands parents smoked while pregnant, and weren't told to stop either. and we all know for a fact cigarette smoke is much more dangerous than marijuana


personally, i smoked a few times, when the nausea and headaches were really bad. I am not a pot head, never have been, it was purely medicinal. i felt it to be safer not to mention more effective than the drugs the doc gave me.

my recomendations, haibane, would be to only smoke at night, after the last feeding. and if possible, express a few times before the feeding in the morning. But I dont know how long the thc takes to leave teh system through the breatst milk, some googling of medical studies would be prudent for you and her to do.

frankly, a bit of THC in breast milk is still better than the shit you get in the bottle, imnsho
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I hear what u r saying...really i do..

but, that does not mean it is right....u should be giving the child the best chance sceniro, my wife took nothing during her pregnancy- nothing for nausea, nothing for headaches (she doesnt smoke pot at all anyways)- but still she gave up caffeine, diet soda, allergy meds..etc..ect....

why she did that is to give the baby the best chance in life..

I guess to each his own...but, if I were the baby and I found out years later that my Mom was smoking pot while I was in her tummy and then preceded to smoke as she breast fed, I would be a little upset...
 
dark_lord said:
please, explain to me why the DR told her not to stop smoking, how could it be worse? LOL .. That is complete bullshit
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no it's not complete bullshit. Why becuase you don't agree with it, you think it's all crap? The dr. said it could lead to premature birth, and a very low birth rate. She cut way back, but not completly. Or are you going to tell me now, the dr. did not say that?
 
dont forget all the other cultures that encourage smoking herb while preggers... they are all just fine...


wasnt there a thread a while back that covered the topic of being preggers and smoking weed? it was a study of some pacific islanders and jamaicans?

[edit] found it... now i hope you all actually take the time to READ it....

this site

part 2 of ^ that site

this post

@: Is it possible that American women didn't know how to use marijuana intelligently? Did you find that Jamaican women had more ganja wisdom?

American drug use often takes place without cultural rules and in an unsupervised context. The Jamaican women we studied had been educated in a cultural tradition of using marijuana as a medicine. They prepared it with teas, milk and spices, and thought of it as a preventive and curative substance. Smoking it during pregnancy was a way of relieving nausea, increasing appetites, combating fatigue and depression, providing rest and relaxation. Some of these women were in dire socioeconomic straits, and they found that smoking ganja helped allay feelings of worry and depression about their financial situation.
Our testing showed that the children of women who used ganja had better alertness, stability and adjustment than children of women who didn't use ganja. This was measured at the age of one month. We measured children again at four years and at five years of age, and found that there were no apparent deficits in the children of marijuana-using mothers. In fact, in many ways, they were better off than children of non-smoking mothers. The ganja-using mothers also seemed better off than non-users.
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it is all about intellegent and responsible use....
 
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exarkann said:
dont forget all the other cultures that encourage smoking herb while preggers... they are all just fine...


wasnt there a thread a while back that covered the topic of being preggers and smoking weed? it was a study of some pacific islanders and jamaicans?

[edit] found it...

this site

part 2 of ^that site

this post




it is all about intellegent and responsible use....
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O yes, those Jamicans are so highly regarded in their medical practices...

look, its not that hard to understand....if you can not stop rec. drugs while being pregnant and breast feeding u should not be having a child...blah, blah, blah....

Give the baby the best possible start to life, is that asking to much of a mother to be?
 
I think you are overreacting to the dangers of a little THC now and again,personally. Do you let your kids eat mcdonalds? have a coke now and then? Frankly, the effects of an occasional smoke are nonexistant in my book.
Dreher has impeccable credentials and a wealth of proprietary information on ganja use, but when she released solidly-researched reports showing that children of ganja-using mothers were better adjusted than children born to mothers who did not use ganja, she encountered political and professional turbulence.
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read up on those links above before you get too holier than thou.

although I can already tell you didn't read squat, since you attack the medical practice of jamaica, when the research was done by an american. an american with honours degrees in nursing, anthropology and philosophy before being awarded a PhD in anthropology from prestigious Columbia University in 1977. And she is currently a dean at a nursing school, has been for 15 years.


which btw exarkann, are great, thanks for the links.
 
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Give the baby the best possible start to life, is that asking to much of a mother to be?
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so.. following that line of thought, i propose a worldwide campaign to prevent anyone who is below the poverty line, below a certain iq, not married, or otherwise unable to give a child the best possible chance... from having children.


ya right.


thanks for actually reading the links, darthmom

while the evidence is there, i do feel that ones own personal feeling on the matter come into play. my companion has clearly stated in the past that were she to get pregnant, she would cut back on her smoking by about 90%... the remaining would be to help combat the ill-side effects of being pregnant... she feels that herb is a much safer and natural way to deal with it than most of the otc and prescription meds...
and that was before she read the studies. she has my support. its about the SCIENCE, not the puritanical superstitions...
 
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African, Jamacian and Indian mothers have been using cannabis for thousands of years for birthpains, nausea and a host of other problems. Heavy usage isn't recommended, but smoking a couple J's every week won't hurt the baby. Some of the people here are just freaking out. There is a very insightful article about mothers and cannabis in cannabis culture if you want to look it up...
 
DarthMom said:
I think you are overreacting to the dangers of a little THC now and again,personally. Do you let your kids eat mcdonalds? have a coke now and then? Frankly, the effects of an occasional smoke are nonexistant in my book. read up on those links above before you get too holier than thou.
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DM, like I said to each his own...Works for you then fine, but if it wasnt on the oringinal posters mind, then he/she wouldnt of asked, so it is a issue toying around in his mind...

would I let my kids eat Mcy'ds sure, drink a coke, sure..

Do I want my wife doing bong hits while pregnant- NO

Do I want my wife doin bong hits while nursing my 6 week old child- No
 
dark_lord said:
DM, like I said to each his own...Works for you then fine, but if it wasnt on the oringinal posters mind, then he/she wouldnt of asked, so it is a issue toying around in his mind...

would I let my kids eat Mcy'ds sure, drink a coke, sure..

Do I want my wife doing bong hits while pregnant- NO

Do I want my wife doin bong hits while nursing my 6 week old child- No
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Let's say your wife has awful headaches and nausea during her pregnancy. can't hold food down, can't do anything and is in utter pain (this happens to many many women) would you then mind if she smokes weed? would you prefer she suffer with nothing, or take drugs prescribed by the doctor?

I think it is a bit absurd to be afraid of marijuana personally, there is no evidence that it is detrimental, from what I have read.
 
DarthMom said:
Let's say your wife has awful headaches and nausea during her pregnancy. can't hold food down, can't do anything and is in utter pain (this happens to many many women) would you then mind if she smokes weed? would you prefer she suffer with nothing, or take drugs prescribed by the doctor?

I think it is a bit absurd to be afraid of marijuana personally, there is no evidence that it is detrimental, from what I have read.
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Darth, I wil answer your question then I am done on this subject..

My wife had all those symptoms descibed, you know she delt with them, without any meds, be it legal or not legal...

Again, works for other peeps fine....I know many, many friends whose wifes stopped smoking pot until they were done with the preg and nursing...

BTW: I am not afraid on MJ- I love it, evryday...
 
so you thought that constant puking was safer for the baby than a little mj?! I dont get that, but whatever!

Like I said before, I am not a smoker. so not getting defensive...just wish it was my drug du jour since it is so damn safe!
 
um, you can argue all you want in favor of it, but why take any chance at all if there has been some reasonably viable evidence that it is detrimental? im not saying it is, but whats more important, your leisure or your child? why even take a chance?
 
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