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If this is just the ramblings of a stoner, I apologise.

It just occurred to me there that with some weed, you get this sort of feeling where you feel "damn I'm really high". It's like you get elevated to a premium level of stonedness. No matter how much I smoke of certain buds, I cannot achieve this feeling. I know that say properly grown Northern Lights is 20-25% THC, so surely it follows that if I smoke 5 times as much of some unknown schwag, I would reach the same level. IE, ten beers gets me roughly as pissed as a bottle of wine, why doesn't five times the amount of weed get me to the same high, as surely I am ingesting the same amount of THC/CBD/CBN etc.
 
you dont understand that isn't the point i was making. Surely its not so ambigious that you'd think it was a question of the actual quality.
 
I get what you're saying.

My theory follows:
Bud A is an extremely potent strain. Bud B is ditch weed. Say you smoke 1 joint of the bud A and become pleasantly stoned. Bud B however, requires you to smoke 3 joints to achieve same effect. So now you have ingested the same amount of THC and other cannabinoids as you did when you smoked the joint of bud A. However, you had to smoke more joints of bud b so you inhaled more tar and carcinogens etc.

Possibly these chemicals drag down your high and make you feel burnt out.
Just my theory
 
there are two things going on here:

1) if you smoke something with 20% THC, there is a lot of THC that can vaporize before it burns up . With something that is 5% THC, im betting that a higher proportion of it will burn up with the plant matter and never enter your body.

2) when you smoke 5x as much cheap stuff you are getting a lot more carbon monoxide, which in my opinion negatively effects the high (it makes you feel stupid and slow because there is less oxygen getting to your bran. carbon monoxide actually stays in your blood for quite a while, leaving less room for oxygen).

vaporizing is the way to go. im buying one very soon.
 
jon420 said:
If this is just the ramblings of a stoner, I apologise.

It just occurred to me there that with some weed, you get this sort of feeling where you feel "damn I'm really high". It's like you get elevated to a premium level of stonedness. No matter how much I smoke of certain buds, I cannot achieve this feeling. I know that say properly grown Northern Lights is 20-25% THC, so surely it follows that if I smoke 5 times as much of some unknown schwag, I would reach the same level. IE, ten beers gets me roughly as pissed as a bottle of wine, why doesn't five times the amount of weed get me to the same high, as surely I am ingesting the same amount of THC/CBD/CBN etc.
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Yeah, except you're not. Think about it; say WEED A (mersh) has little THC and a ton of CBD / CBN. Even if you smoke a ton of WEED A, it can't match up to WEED B (dank) which has a large amount of THC but a minimal amount of CBD / CBN.

Even if you smoke a ton of A, your high will always be cloudier and more sedated than the clear-thinking, cerebral B.

If you had crap weed with the same ratio of THC, CBD, and CBN as some dank weed, the high probably still would not be the same (but might be similar) due to the difference in concentration and the increased time it would take to achieve the same high with the inferior weed.

This is further complicated / affected by the fact that both sativa and indica exist. With modern genetics, growers can create hybrids that offer "the best of both worlds" in terms of a high, which cannot be recreated if one smokes a bunch of indica-dominant stuff or something.

In short: more chemical factors at play, thus a more "complicated" high (although I would not say this within twenty feet of a wine connoisseur!)...
 
I'd have to say...tolerence. Seems to me that if you get a hit real quick you notice it more, but the problem with smoking poor weed is the time between cones etc. Here's a way i figured out to make weak bud kick in harder. Get your weed and pack 5 to 6 cone peices. Don't pack them to big. Now i wan't you to pull all 5 of them without taking many breaths of actual air. EG: Smoke one then hold it......... while you are holding load the other up and when you bneed to get some air breath in another hit. Remember the more you get in the bottom of your lungs the more thc gets absorbed. I would love a vapouriser but spend all money on weed so catch 22. Goodluck. Anxiety makes you feel out of breath but if you just remember that your brain goes 5min before damage occurs you can put anxiety on the back burner. Peace.
 
High quality weed has a better cannibinoid blend then schwag. Basically chronic is bred to make you feel that feeling you're describing, whereas shwag is not. Also when I smoke 5 times as much shwag as I would have chronic, I still get high, it's just a tiring, knocked out, stupid high as opposed to the much better high that comes from chronic. In my experience no amount of shwag will give you a chronic high, I've tried. I'd say it's just the cannibinoid (and various other chems) blend within the plant you're smoking from. I also agree with what Outta Pocket said
 
Lots of the compounds in marijuana buds act on cannabinoid receptors. They're all partial agonists (even THC is, but it's more of an agonist than most of the others); when administered with THC (as in, when someone smokes weed), they act as competitive antagonists, reducing the effect of the THC by binding to receptors instead of THC. Thus, with a more favorable ratio of THC to other cannabinoids, you will get higher.

Plus, all those other compounds (and probably others) contribute to sideeffects, as does the act of smoking plant material itself.

Even among top grade weed, you'll encounter really potent weed that has a lower ceiling, and less potent weed with a higher ceiling.
 
I think I would take a bowl's worth of really good dank over a couple blunts of mids anyway, the only thing I get with the blunts is just feeling really tired and mind-addled.

For me, mids just doesn't cut it and the high is overall less enjoyable, it's okay if I have an evening to kill and I just want to chill around with some friends and watch a basketball game on the TV or something.

I think for me I've developed a tolerance to mids, so I want to smoke bud less overall (I'll likely have to cut myself off of it entirely because I'll likely have a drug test coming up, which really sucks because I'm likely not going to get to smoke on 4/20, something that upsets me slightly) because I want the high that I used to get.

However, I'm not going to be a dick about it, if all the other person has is mids and they're offering it to me to smoke with them, I'm not going to be some snobbish guy that is all like "I only smoke that which is good." I hate people like that, they miss the whole point and are trying to say they're better than other people simply because they spend more money on buds.

He who dies having smoked the best buds is still dead.

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