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BL IV Heroin Users: How many of you have done mostly tar heroin?

BlueHues

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I don't see a lot of tar users post on BL. There's a lot of old threads about it but I'm curious about people's experience IVing tar.

What color and consistency was it?

How was it packaged and what amounts were typically sold?

How much did you/do you generally use?

And if you're comfortable with it, what US state did you use it in?(or country)


I've used tar in all the west coast states and in Nebraska where I currently reside.

I've seen it be anywhere from light brown to black.

I've seen it in hard, sticky little jagged rocks, gooey tar form, hard drier tar form, and a crumbly powder that can be pressed into balls.

It almost always had a vinegar scent to it, some stronger than others....the stuff that had absolutely no vinegar smell usually sucked.

It was generally sold in dubs, 1/2 gs, whole gs and eight balls.

I started off shooting less than .1 grams but was up to .3-.5 gram shots in a period of particularly heavy use.

The stuff I've done recently seems to be better quality, sold in .1s and much more expensive and it's generally of the dark brown/black, hard sticky little chunk variety.
 
Tar is the only type of heroin ive done,well and like brown sugar which is the same thing pretty much.

The color varies sometimes it looks like obsidian rocks and is really hard and dense,other times its more brow and soft(like a rat poop)
Ive been scoring on skid row for the past 6 months and its really hit or miss,most of the time its old rat turd looking tar that cooks into brown water.
they are sold in points .1 would cost ten bucks and they are packaged in baloons and dealers spit them out. Ive gotten ran up on by undercovers and had the baloons
in my mouth and swallowed them (3),and shit them back out the next day and used them all. (smelled really shitty though)

im not using anymore,but when i was it just varied on how much money i had. at my worst i was doing 9 balloons a day. Which cost about 80-90 dollars

California and used it twice in hawaii. (which was really shitty)\

the best stuff i would get would be really sticky and puddy like and you can roll them up into little balls,or the really black rock like stuff
 
BlueHues said:
I don't see a lot of tar users post on BL. There's a lot of old threads about it but I'm curious about people's experience IVing tar.

What color and consistency was it?

How was it packaged and what amounts were typically sold?

How much did you/do you generally use?

And if you're comfortable with it, what US state did you use it in?(or country)
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It basically looks like hash that someone got slightly wet.

I would buy grams, half grams, and then the most I ever bought of tar was an 8 ball.

I used about a gram a day during the period when I was using IV tar, but recently I've more occasionally banged about 300mg at a time, and then not used for 1-2 months at a time. I haven't had heroin now in over a month.

I've used tar in california, washington, and oregon. I've used powder in california, NY, and NJ.

I prefer to use powder, as I don't like smoking heroin and would rather avoid IVing, which seems to be the only effective ROA with tar.
 
I did it in Denver for a while. It was sold in 1 point balloons. The delivery guy would show up with half a mouth of white balloons and half a mouth of black.
The balloons were all colors but the content was white/black. Take it out of the balloon and it's wrapped in a piece of shopping bag.
The consistency is hard to describe. Sticky enough to stick to your fingers but hard enough to stay intact. Jet black in color.
Cooking it and shooting it scared the fuck out of me, so I mostly chased it.
No. 4 is my preferred shot. So much less fuss, easier to register and didn't/doesn't collapse my veins at the rate black did. Just my experience.
 
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Along the lines of having to swallow the balloons.....
Our guy got pulled over maybe a quarter of a mile from the Wendy's we were to meet him at.
My buddy and I were waiting in the parking lot, were sick, weren't entirely sure if it was him in the car that got pulled over, etc. So we waited.
It was him, obviously. He had swallowed all the balloons and as a result got away from the stop. I don't know how many he swallowed but it was a lot.
He pulled up next to us in the lot and ran as fast as he could into the bathroom.
My buddy was/is the pestering type, so he went in to "check" on him. Really just wanted to have him pull a few 20's out of his puke in the toilet so we could fix.
I stayed a ways outside the door but could still hear my buddy bugging him, followed by a string of Spanish expletives, followed by more puking, followed by more cursing.
The drivers have to account for every dollar/balloon, so he needed to get them out via that route and keep the evenings deliveries going.
We got our balloons and I thought it was all somewhat funny. Mainly cause the driver was a angry little prick and we were still able to cop.
The notion that I may be shooting a bit of the guys vomit as well didn't feel like too big a deal.
 
Anyone had powder and tar? Is there any difference in the effects, potency, and/or duration?
East coast residing.
 
^tar is much less potent, and contains non-heroin alkaloids, like papaverine, and I'm pretty sure a lot of the tar I get is actually mostly morphine due to how wet the tar is, since diaztylmorphine turns into morphine when left in water for too long.
 
I've had shots of tar that blew me away. I perceived it to have more legs than a lot of the east coast powder I've done. But I think that had more to do with my lower habit level when I was out there.
I don't hate tar but I can say that it's pretty fucking nasty. I had multiple junkie associates whose veins were shot. As in, they'd be digging in their thigh or upper arm, just hoping they stumbled into a vein.
Abscesses seemed to be much more prevalent, too.
When I get, I get from the Mecca of quality dope. NYC, or bags that came from. So, that may color my opinion more.
With that said... Given the choice between the best tar I ever had and the 15th best east coast bags I ever got, I'd take the bags each and every time.
 
What color and consistency was it?
Black lol or maybe a very deep brown, depended on how warm it was, in heat it was super sticky & malleable, the colder it was, the harder & less sticky it became

How was it packaged and what amounts were typically sold?
Wrapped in a piece torn off a plastic shopping bag, sometimes wrapped in a water balloon; depends completely on the dealer, I've seen sold by the point, by a set dollar amount, and I knew one guy who sold any dollar amount you wanted

How much did you/do you generally use?
A point, more if it wasn't up to par & vice versa

And if you're comfortable with it, what US state did you use it in?(or country)
North Carolina, for the most part I knew my shit was coming up from Mexico, through Charlotte, and distributed by the dealers in various cities
 
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Bob Loblaw said:
What color and consistency was it?
Black lol or maybe a very deep brown, depended on how warm it was, in heat it was super sticky & malleable, the colder it was, the harder & less sticky it became

How was it packaged and what amounts were typically sold?
Wrapped in a piece torn off a plastic shopping bag, sometimes wrapped in a water balloon; depends completely on the dealer, I've seen sold by the point, by a set dollar amount (e.g. XXballoons, or XXballoons), and I knew one guy who sold any dollar amount you wanted

How much did you/do you generally use?
A point, more if it wasn't up to par & vice versa

And if you're comfortable with it, what US state did you use it in?(or country)
North Carolina, for the most part I knew my shit was coming up from Mexico, through Charlotte, and distributed by the dealers in various cities
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edit your post, no price discussion
 
I think abcesses are definitely more common with tar, but a lot of it doesn't seem to have any more residue once you put it to water, I think a lot of it has to do with the syrupy aspect of it...I think the best powder is better than the best tar, but I think tar is a better deal for the money.

There's a lot of garbage powder on the East Coast. The few years I lived out west, I thought the quality of the tar was more consistent than ECP. It was rare that I'd spend $40 and not get high...It's more common for that to happen to me with powder...when it sucked, it really sucked!'

I just wanna here other people's opinion on tar that have done it. I think a lot of people don't like posting about it because all the East Coast dope fiends jump all over them and talk it down so much. Other than the the whole destroying your veins thing, I think it's pretty even.
 
I'm interested in trying tar, I like morphine but it doesn't come close to heroin. How many have tried IV powder, IV tar and IV morphine? Can you tell me what the difference is?

Being from a country that gets most of its heroin from Asia, I'm really curious as to what Mexican gear is like.
 
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I'm interested in trying tar, I like morphine but it doesn't come close to heroin. How many have tried IV powder, IV tar and IV morphine? Can you tell me what the difference is?

Being from a country that gets most of its heroin from Asia, I'm really curious as to what Mexican gear is like.
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I've tried all three, and the only difference I noticed between IV tar and IV powder was that I had to use a much larger amount of tar to get me high. IV morphine is simply a less intense rush, and more legs, too. I also noticed that morphine makes me a little more nauseous than heroin, but I've heard others say the opposite, so that's simply my subjective experience of it.
 
opi8 said:
I'm interested in trying tar, I like morphine but it doesn't come close to heroin. How many have tried IV powder, IV tar and IV morphine? Can you tell me what the difference is?

Being from a country that gets most of its heroin from Asia, I'm really curious as to what Mexican gear is like.
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Morphine is more tingly/histaminey, but pretty similar IIRC. It's been a long time since I've had it though. But then I've also had "Peruvian pink" dope that looked like powdered tar that gave an ungodly glorious body high. I never noticed a huge difference, except tar kicks in slower than powder & sometimes lasts longer.
 
Since I'm in So. Cal I've never seen anything but tar. It's usually hard & dark brown/black and gets stickier & softer if it's too warm or comes in contact with too much moisture. Sometimes it's that light brown powder which turns dark and sticky when the air hits it. The latter is usually a bit better. It's all pretty good, but I've noticed that the stickier it is the weaker it is. (imo) I usually pick up 3gs at a time for I won't say how much. (no prices.) That usually lasts me 4-6 days depending on if I'm real busy or have nothing much to do but sit around getting high. In the beginning I would do shot's that were about half a dime (.05) and now after 2 years they're about .2 -.3, or about 40-50 units once it's drawn up. I have noticed something weird though. A couple times I went to someone different and the stuff I got diluted completely when I added water and melted it. There were no little bits floating around in it and it drew up more easily. One would think that would be a good thing. But the stuff with no floaties usually sucks. No legs at all and barely kept me from being sick. I wonder why the stuff with more crap floating around in it is better?
 
^^ yup. Dubs (.25) Halves(.5) grams and up..we aren't really tied down to bags and bundles and all that. Basically however much you wanna throw down gets scaled out for you over here. It varies a lot but you can mostly tell by its consistency. Super sticky tar IMO was the worst. I tend to get it in harder chunks and at my worst was doing .6-.7ish a shot. The best I've had tho wasn't hard or sticky but had a dough like consistency. I did .2 and it floored me.
 
It makes sense to me that you need more tar by weight to get high, because it seems like it's often "wet", and water would add weight. Does anyone agree with this?
 
I suppose..... I would say that typically the wetness, which is more of a stickiness, is still part of the usable/viable product.
So, while the wetness does probably add weight, the wetness is still product. I have no idea if that makes sense.
 
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