Newbie questions here mostly just for curiosity. I was reading another thread and saw something mentioned about blackout and dickhead potential from xanax and So I wanted some more info because this is my problem.
When I was younger, around 15, I OD'd on valium. Don't know the strength or even how many. I know I took a couple when I arrived at a friends home, then I have a vague recollection of taking like a handful (seriously like 20-30 or more.) I don't know how accurate the recollection is though I have confirmed other recollections with people who were sober. Needless to say this day ended up in the hospital with me drinking charcoal and being kept under pysch eval for 2-3 days. I do remember, again in an out of body recollection, being in the paddy wagon going to hospital (Ambulance in Chicago will not pick up conscience ODs, they let the police bring them to the hospital) and being a very nasty person. My father rode with and I wasn't to him, just to the cops driving us.
Anyways, a few years later a friend had some valium, so we each took like 2 each. Blackout again, and I guess I was a dick to my father that time.
Few years later a pharmacist friend gave me some xanax to help me sleep. 1mg wafers. 1 would put me out for 17 hours. This was tested several times. So I began breaking them in half, which dropped me for 9 hours. If I didn't get the 9 or 17 hours of sleep, again I was a dickhead.
I take it this is common? I had always figured it had something to do with the OD. I've had a number of shrinks suggest valium or xanax for my insomnia and/or stress, and I've avoided it due to my past history. Are klotopins (sp) likely to accomplish the same? Or better yet is the whole benzo family something I should avoid?
I'm really curious now because my GF is currently on day 10 of detoxing from heroin addiction. (Btw thank you to all whom posted in my prior thread and msg'd me with answers to my newbie questions, hopefully that information will not be needed but still good to have) I had read Klotopin were good for helping the detox process so I got her some. They don't knock her out at all, in fact they make her giggly. In fact on day six she went to the hospital and they IV'd her ativan. Then she took a klotopin when we got home and she was still awake (mind you this was after 6 days of zero sleep due to detox) though she was completely out of it. I think she was conscientiously asleep, but still moving around because she made zero sense. Later that night in fact she was talking like she was still in jail (first four of detox were spent there) and kept calling me her bunkie, though then she would look and me and be like wtf?
I'm bigtime curious because I brought a friend to the same hospital 2 days prior and they IV'd her with ativan too. This makes me nervous that if I end up there stressed out for some reason, they may give it to me, and if I should avoid benzos...
I searched a bit but didn't find info about this side effect so if someone can link to a thread or just give me an overview, I'd appreciate it. Last thing I want to do is take something that will make me a dick, because when I am a dickhead, it's nuclear. Anything else I should avoid that may be like that? I drink, but occasionally, if the situation is right and my mind state is good, I may try a pill or something, and I don't want to be completely out of control.
One more completely off topic question but been bugging me for years and I've searched like mad for info and gotten nothing and I really don't want to start a new thread for it. When I a teen, we would get something in Chicago called "Happy Stick" it was some type of herb (not weed, weed actually screwed up the high) rolled into a joint and dipped in a clear liquid. On the south side it was call shermanstick. We were told it was pcp, but the high was nothing like I have heard from pcp. Someone also said it was formaldehyde but another friend said he tried that and the high was nothing the same. It had a very chemical smell. In fact if you ever get starting fluid with high ether, the smell is identical. The effect was it made us freaking retarded. It distorted visual perceptions such as one minute you would feel huge in a tiny room, then you would feel tiny in a huge room. You could look at your hands and one would seem tiny and the other huge. Also, and the reason My gf hated it, I couldn't maintain an erection to save my life. We did get the liquid a few times, the guys would call it "water" and it was a 2inch or so vial filled with clear liquid. Working with it (dipping as I recall joints of some kitchen herb, probably oregano, in it, for too long and we'd get a contact buzz. The liquid was thicker than water but only slightly so. I lean away from pcp because I've read that tends to lead to violence, and we were too retarded to be violent.
I did find this thread here, http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-37071.html but it leads me to believe it was not ether?
Any ideas? Sorry to off topic so much but didn't want to waste a new thread over something else that is just a curiosity for me. What the hell did we smoke that made us retarded and I'm positive killed billions of brain cells.
When I was younger, around 15, I OD'd on valium. Don't know the strength or even how many. I know I took a couple when I arrived at a friends home, then I have a vague recollection of taking like a handful (seriously like 20-30 or more.) I don't know how accurate the recollection is though I have confirmed other recollections with people who were sober. Needless to say this day ended up in the hospital with me drinking charcoal and being kept under pysch eval for 2-3 days. I do remember, again in an out of body recollection, being in the paddy wagon going to hospital (Ambulance in Chicago will not pick up conscience ODs, they let the police bring them to the hospital) and being a very nasty person. My father rode with and I wasn't to him, just to the cops driving us.
Anyways, a few years later a friend had some valium, so we each took like 2 each. Blackout again, and I guess I was a dick to my father that time.
Few years later a pharmacist friend gave me some xanax to help me sleep. 1mg wafers. 1 would put me out for 17 hours. This was tested several times. So I began breaking them in half, which dropped me for 9 hours. If I didn't get the 9 or 17 hours of sleep, again I was a dickhead.
I take it this is common? I had always figured it had something to do with the OD. I've had a number of shrinks suggest valium or xanax for my insomnia and/or stress, and I've avoided it due to my past history. Are klotopins (sp) likely to accomplish the same? Or better yet is the whole benzo family something I should avoid?
I'm really curious now because my GF is currently on day 10 of detoxing from heroin addiction. (Btw thank you to all whom posted in my prior thread and msg'd me with answers to my newbie questions, hopefully that information will not be needed but still good to have) I had read Klotopin were good for helping the detox process so I got her some. They don't knock her out at all, in fact they make her giggly. In fact on day six she went to the hospital and they IV'd her ativan. Then she took a klotopin when we got home and she was still awake (mind you this was after 6 days of zero sleep due to detox) though she was completely out of it. I think she was conscientiously asleep, but still moving around because she made zero sense. Later that night in fact she was talking like she was still in jail (first four of detox were spent there) and kept calling me her bunkie, though then she would look and me and be like wtf?
I'm bigtime curious because I brought a friend to the same hospital 2 days prior and they IV'd her with ativan too. This makes me nervous that if I end up there stressed out for some reason, they may give it to me, and if I should avoid benzos...
I searched a bit but didn't find info about this side effect so if someone can link to a thread or just give me an overview, I'd appreciate it. Last thing I want to do is take something that will make me a dick, because when I am a dickhead, it's nuclear. Anything else I should avoid that may be like that? I drink, but occasionally, if the situation is right and my mind state is good, I may try a pill or something, and I don't want to be completely out of control.
One more completely off topic question but been bugging me for years and I've searched like mad for info and gotten nothing and I really don't want to start a new thread for it. When I a teen, we would get something in Chicago called "Happy Stick" it was some type of herb (not weed, weed actually screwed up the high) rolled into a joint and dipped in a clear liquid. On the south side it was call shermanstick. We were told it was pcp, but the high was nothing like I have heard from pcp. Someone also said it was formaldehyde but another friend said he tried that and the high was nothing the same. It had a very chemical smell. In fact if you ever get starting fluid with high ether, the smell is identical. The effect was it made us freaking retarded. It distorted visual perceptions such as one minute you would feel huge in a tiny room, then you would feel tiny in a huge room. You could look at your hands and one would seem tiny and the other huge. Also, and the reason My gf hated it, I couldn't maintain an erection to save my life. We did get the liquid a few times, the guys would call it "water" and it was a 2inch or so vial filled with clear liquid. Working with it (dipping as I recall joints of some kitchen herb, probably oregano, in it, for too long and we'd get a contact buzz. The liquid was thicker than water but only slightly so. I lean away from pcp because I've read that tends to lead to violence, and we were too retarded to be violent.
I did find this thread here, http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-37071.html but it leads me to believe it was not ether?
Any ideas? Sorry to off topic so much but didn't want to waste a new thread over something else that is just a curiosity for me. What the hell did we smoke that made us retarded and I'm positive killed billions of brain cells.
