Bojangles2.0
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I started taking 1mg of xanax and 5mg of valium to help me jump off .25mg of sub. Because everytime I go lower with the sub, or try to stop, I get wikid insomnia and depression.
So I decided to drop to .125mg of sub, and slowly work in low amounts of benzos so I can sleep and my body could readjust to the lower dose of sub. Astonishingly, I was able to taper down to a point that was never possible before.
But that turned out to be a BIG mistake because my sleep schedule is completely fucked up now.
I use to go to bed around 2am and wake up around 10am. I'm self employeed so I CAN sleep at any time schedule, but I do NOT like sleeping
any later than 11am.
Thing is, with benzos I'd go to bed at 2am and wake up at 2pm!
Then because I slept so long, at night I wouldn't be tired. So I'd stay up till 3am instead, and would sleep till 3pm.
Long story short, I tried upping my dose of benzos a bit over the last couple months.
So now I take 2mg xanax and 10mg of valium. I figured if I took them earlier, I'd sleep earlier.
But I'd wind up staying up till 5am just to enjoy the sedation.
Well today was a breaking point for me. I wound up sleeping till 5pm.
Literally as the sun was going down, I was getting out of bed. And that made me furious. So I've decided that benzos aren't helping me and are just making things worse. Not to mention they effect my ability to work and I really need my brain sharp to do what I do.
The problem though..... its now 6pm, and there is NO WAY in hell I'll be tired till at least 6am in the morning. I won't even feel "up" till midnight. My body usually likes to stay awake for 14 hours, so I could easily stay up till 8am if I want to. Maybe even 10am before I start feeling tired.
But the point is, benzos keep pushing my sleep cycle further and further back, so its time to stop this.
They're not helping me get off sub and are just making me a dysfunctional, tired, depressed zombie.
So the way I see it I have 2 choices.
1) Don't sleep at all tonight, don't take ANY benzos.
The problem with this "solution", I've been taking 1.5-2mg of xanax a day, and 10mg of valium for about 3 months, so I'm sure there will be some type of wd syndrome. And I won't really know till tomorrow.
So I've considered another option.
2) Cut my benzo dose down, and take them around midnight tonight, instead of 4pm, since I usually take them a couple hours before going to bed. So I'd take .25mg xanax (25% my normal dose) and 5mg valium (50% my normal dose) around midnight, and see if I can pass out around 3am (which may or may not happen). My goal is to stop the xanax before the valium since I find xanax a lot more addictive and also a lot more powerful.
Its unfortunate because I have a supply of over 400+ benzos, so I will either flush them or put them in the freezer with the rest of my "controlled habits" (my freezer has weed, mdma, ketamine, all habits I stopped on my own :D)
One last thing. Once I get this benzo stuff under control, my next plan is to buy a couple hundred extended release codeine.
I am an addict and prone to addiction, but nowhere near as much as I use to be.
I've managed to stop ALL of my addictions except suboxone over the last year (weed, mdma, ket and even cigs).
The longest I went w/out sub was 3 weeks but the depression / insomnia / lethargy was too much to bear (even coming off a
low dose). So I think if I replace my low dose of sub with codiene (like 60mg extended release) I should be able to tolerate the
transition, then taper off the codiene.
This is a long post but I'm looking for some thought / insight to my goals.
Should I stop the benzos completely and pull an all nighter then see how I feel tomorrow?
Should I taper the benzos and just take them a lot earlier?
And does codiene sound like a good idea for bridging off sub?
Thanks guys - Bo
So I decided to drop to .125mg of sub, and slowly work in low amounts of benzos so I can sleep and my body could readjust to the lower dose of sub. Astonishingly, I was able to taper down to a point that was never possible before.
But that turned out to be a BIG mistake because my sleep schedule is completely fucked up now.
I use to go to bed around 2am and wake up around 10am. I'm self employeed so I CAN sleep at any time schedule, but I do NOT like sleeping
any later than 11am.
Thing is, with benzos I'd go to bed at 2am and wake up at 2pm!
Then because I slept so long, at night I wouldn't be tired. So I'd stay up till 3am instead, and would sleep till 3pm.
Long story short, I tried upping my dose of benzos a bit over the last couple months.
So now I take 2mg xanax and 10mg of valium. I figured if I took them earlier, I'd sleep earlier.
But I'd wind up staying up till 5am just to enjoy the sedation.
Well today was a breaking point for me. I wound up sleeping till 5pm.

The problem though..... its now 6pm, and there is NO WAY in hell I'll be tired till at least 6am in the morning. I won't even feel "up" till midnight. My body usually likes to stay awake for 14 hours, so I could easily stay up till 8am if I want to. Maybe even 10am before I start feeling tired.
But the point is, benzos keep pushing my sleep cycle further and further back, so its time to stop this.
They're not helping me get off sub and are just making me a dysfunctional, tired, depressed zombie.
So the way I see it I have 2 choices.
1) Don't sleep at all tonight, don't take ANY benzos.
The problem with this "solution", I've been taking 1.5-2mg of xanax a day, and 10mg of valium for about 3 months, so I'm sure there will be some type of wd syndrome. And I won't really know till tomorrow.
So I've considered another option.
2) Cut my benzo dose down, and take them around midnight tonight, instead of 4pm, since I usually take them a couple hours before going to bed. So I'd take .25mg xanax (25% my normal dose) and 5mg valium (50% my normal dose) around midnight, and see if I can pass out around 3am (which may or may not happen). My goal is to stop the xanax before the valium since I find xanax a lot more addictive and also a lot more powerful.
Its unfortunate because I have a supply of over 400+ benzos, so I will either flush them or put them in the freezer with the rest of my "controlled habits" (my freezer has weed, mdma, ketamine, all habits I stopped on my own :D)
One last thing. Once I get this benzo stuff under control, my next plan is to buy a couple hundred extended release codeine.
I am an addict and prone to addiction, but nowhere near as much as I use to be.
I've managed to stop ALL of my addictions except suboxone over the last year (weed, mdma, ket and even cigs).
The longest I went w/out sub was 3 weeks but the depression / insomnia / lethargy was too much to bear (even coming off a
low dose). So I think if I replace my low dose of sub with codiene (like 60mg extended release) I should be able to tolerate the
transition, then taper off the codiene.
This is a long post but I'm looking for some thought / insight to my goals.
Should I stop the benzos completely and pull an all nighter then see how I feel tomorrow?
Should I taper the benzos and just take them a lot earlier?
And does codiene sound like a good idea for bridging off sub?
Thanks guys - Bo