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Benzos Benzodiazepine stability (chemistry)

Sir Ron Pib

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Hope this isn't for drugs basic - more a chem question
Am I right all the benzo's are stable chemicals in terms of reasonable storage?
I have some Valium from a prescription in 2006 still seem to work fine so I'd presume it's the same for the whole family as with PEAS?
 
If the Valium still works I'm sure it lost some potency. As long as stored in a dry and sealed area, I think most would be ok. On OTC stuff I always will throw out the liquid caps after their discard date. Who knows what could start living in there.
 
Yes, they're very stable. I think Benzo manufacturers indicate a shelf life of 5-ish years (which is bound to be extremely conservative, given the source) ... and, anecdotally, pills stored for decades have seemed OK to people. I wouldn't worry about 2006 -- especially considering they "seem to work fine." BTW they're not going to turn into something that can harm you ... they're just going to lose efficacy.
 
if anything seems 'off' aftrer taking them, discontinuing use is recommended

here's some helpful reading
With a splitting headache you reach into your medicine cabinet for some aspirin only to find the stamped expiration date on the bottle has passed - two years ago. So, do you take it or don't you? If you decide to take the aspirin will it be a fatal mistake or will you simply continue to suffer from the headache?

This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in Pyschopharmacology Today offers some advice.

It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.

Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.

So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state expired drugs are safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.

Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. And, really, if a drug manufacturer had to do expiration-date testing for longer periods it would slow their ability to bring you new and improved formulations.

The next time you face the drug expiration date dilemma, consider what you've learned here. If the expiration date passed a few years ago and it's important that your drug is absolutely 100% effective, you might want to consider buying a new bottle. And if you have any questions about the safety or effectiveness of any drug, ask your pharmacist. He or she is a great resource when it comes to getting more information about your medications.
source: http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update1103a.shtml
 
Things like asprin I understand it can break back down into salicyclic acid & acetic acid; given it's cheap and you don't need a prescription worth buying more
I wasn't worried about it turning into anything else and as far as I can see the valium hasn't lost any potency but good to hear some confirmation
 
i found 4 xanax bars at the end of a bottle that was 6 years old. i ate one and i kinda felt it and ate 2 and felt it. i have a mild/strong benzo tolerance. they were slightly weaker. not by much though. i know it isnt valium but its a benzo it was in a air tight bottle they looked like they were old as fuck too because i couldnt see the letters on the pill.
 
I found 30+ year old amps of pethidine 50mg/1ml ( box of 8 ) in the attic from when a family member had cancer in the 1980s. I did not inject them obviously, but I cracked them open and drank the liquid. I was VERY high...same high good old demerol gives you. So some drugs have VERY long shelf lives it seems.
 
i once found a bottle of diazepam solution in my father's med cabinet that expired sometime in the 80s. worked absolutely fine.
 
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