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Benzos Benzo

A bit confused what you mean exactly. Are you on some stronger benzo and wanted to alternate those, or use clonazepam to avoid ambien withdrawals? If you were coming off xanax or something, you could do this. Ambien targets GABA-A like benzos do but not as strongly. At most it would help make you pass out, though personally that one was always hit or miss. I'd either wake up typing nonsense or it would do nothing. Trazodone though fucking wrecks me, I sleep forever. I was able to sleep through diazepam and gabapentin withdrawals with that, though I still woke up with them.
 
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It would help (ambien) to a degree with acute withdrawal over a short period of time, but it would be tough to replace clonazepam with something like ambien.

Switching from clonazepam to ambien as whole is a bad idea. Perhaps most glaringly, ambien doesn't have the anticonvulsant properties of clonazepam.
 
Is their anything I could replace it with? I have not been using alot. I was wondering what the options were instead of benzodiazepines. I tried for 2 and a half years without them and I still am so anxious alot of the time.
 
Robomarley1 said:
Is their anything I could replace it with? I have not been using alot. I was wondering what the options were instead of benzodiazepines. I tried for 2 and a half years without them and I still am so anxious alot of the time.
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Yeah tell me about, same for me, I quit benzos years ago but am still constantly anxious.

Unfortunately nothing works as well as benzos. But im way worse off now than before I got mixed up with them. All the anxiety that benzos relieve are like a loan; you have to pay back all that anxiety relief, with interest.

Maybe some day in the future they'll figure something else out. They work so well, but eventually cause more anxiety than they relieve.
 
phenibut could help, but that's like pouring fuel on the fire. withdrawals to that develop very fast especially since you'd likely be taking high doses, tolerance develops crazier than like any other drug too. and it doesn't bind to gaba-a as strongly as benzos do. it's not worth it. your best bet is tapering, and using probably trazodone or ambien for sleep.
 
Or nothing at all. What has this site become? Nobody is going to be able to give you advice on something like this before knowing more information @Robomarley1 How many milligrams of K-pins were you taking and for how long? Whether they are prescribed or off the street could be another factor. Like @BourbonMac said switching to phenibut is dicey.
 
I have used zopiclone in the past to avoid clonazepam withdrawal and it worked rather well. So i would think that zolpidem would also work.
 
paranoid android said:
I have used zopiclone in the past to avoid clonazepam withdrawal and it worked rather well. So i would think that zolpidem would also work.
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What if they have been taking .5 mg of clonazepam a day for 1 week? Do you still think they need something to hep with the withdrawal???
 
paranoid android said:
Have you only been taking it for a week? Because if thats all yolue been taking it for you wont be addicted ayway.
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Christ, I know you might be high but read the goddamn thread. It is not my post, I was merely responding to it. There was no clarification of how much the Op was taking. Then you and other people are recommending replacements for withdrawal that you don't even know exist.
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paranoid android said:
Have you only been taking it for a week? Because if thats all yolue been taking it for you wont be addicted ayway.
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I have been taking it, perscribed at .5 for less than a week but have been through withdrawal multiple times before. So would like to avoid that happening again.
 
you've been taking it for less than a week? i assume it ends up daily. i've been stuck on diazepam for around 2 years, but even though i take more than prescribed it doesn't do much anymore, 25mg will usually be my biggest dose. dazzys are actually often the benzo used to taper off heavier ones.

either way, if you stop it now, you'll be fine
 
LargeAppetite said:
Christ, I know you might be high but read the goddamn thread. It is not my post, I was merely responding to it. There was no clarification of how much the Op was taking. Then you and other people are recommending replacements for withdrawal that you don't even know exist.
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Why are you aggressively attacking everyone about this?

Robomarley1 said:
I was wondering, can you switch between taking ambien and clonazepam to avoid withdrawal?
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Ambien might help, in the short term for some issues, mostly insomnia, but like ^^ dude ^^ said, if you've only been taking clonazepam for a short period, like less than a couple weeks or a month, you're not going to get a serious physical withdrawal, although you might have some psychological cravings for the anxiety relief.

I think the best alternative to benzos, that's natural, safer, and less habit forming, would be kava. But even that comes with it's own issues. But for anxiety relief, it's probably the next best thing.
 
deficiT said:
Why are you aggressively attacking everyone about this?


Ambien might help, in the short term for some issues, mostly insomnia, but like ^^ dude ^^ said, if you've only been taking clonazepam for a short period, like less than a couple weeks or a month, you're not going to get a serious physical withdrawal, although you might have some psychological cravings for the anxiety relief.

I think the best alternative to benzos, that's natural, safer, and less habit forming, would be kava. But even that comes with it's own issues. But for anxiety relief, it's probably the next best thing.
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I apologize for the aggression. I am passionate and I realize it can come off the wrong way via writing sometime. I should mention that I very much respect and appreciate all the work you Mods do on this site. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I will try and approach things in a more calm manner next time. My issue is that someone, multiple people, have stated their concern or fear of withdrawal without first stating the length of their dependence. This is similar to someone posting a powdered substance and asking the board to tell them what is in it. Everyone is on the same page as far as telling them that is a futile task without them running a test on the substance. In the name of harm reduction I think it is wise to get more clarity on the subject before recommending other drugs to ease the withdrawals. I have been there and understand the value of finding things to ease withdrawal and ultimately help getting off the original substance that is causing problems in a persons life. Many times due to discomfort, pain and anguish I turned back to heroin and opiates. The information leading to something to ease those symptoms is invaluable. Granted when I stopped I was ending a lengthy habit that may have required some other substances to ease the pain. This person was using low dose benzos for under a week. Half a milligram for under a week. Due to my inquiry we found this out, yet people are quickly referring them to other drugs and I find that risky and unnecessary, which you clearly do as well. Recommending other drugs without the knowledge of the original exposure too said substance that the "OP" is taking is risky and highly speculative. As you reinforced, "Dude"said taking for a short time does not require a substitute drug to deal with possible, or non existent withdrawal. I want the best for people. I want people to prosper and be happy, on or off drugs.
 
LargeAppetite said:
I apologize for the aggression. I am passionate and I realize it can come off the wrong way via writing sometime. I should mention that I very much respect and appreciate all the work you Mods do on this site. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I will try and approach things in a more calm manner next time. My issue is that someone, multiple people, have stated their concern or fear of withdrawal without first stating the length of their dependence. This is similar to someone posting a powdered substance and asking the board to tell them what is in it. Everyone is on the same page as far as telling them that is a futile task without them running a test on the substance. In the name of harm reduction I think it is wise to get more clarity on the subject before recommending other drugs to ease the withdrawals. I have been there and understand the value of finding things to ease withdrawal and ultimately help getting off the original substance that is causing problems in a persons life. Many times due to discomfort, pain and anguish I turned back to heroin and opiates. The information leading to something to ease those symptoms is invaluable. Granted when I stopped I was ending a lengthy habit that may have required some other substances to ease the pain. This person was using low dose benzos for under a week. Half a milligram for under a week. Due to my inquiry we found this out, yet people are quickly referring them to other drugs and I find that risky and unnecessary, which you clearly do as well. Recommending other drugs without the knowledge of the original exposure too said substance that the "OP" is taking is risky and highly speculative. As you reinforced, "Dude"said taking for a short time does not require a substitute drug to deal with possible, or non existent withdrawal. I want the best for people. I want people to prosper and be happy, on or off drugs.
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Nah, it's all good, that is a legitimate gripe and makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

Yes, the best relief from anxiety is definitely not in a substance. Therapy, breathing exercises, physical exercise, meditation, all of these things will give you lasting relief as opposed to a benzo or something else that will cause you a bunch of rebound anxiety and dependence.
 
deficiT said:
Nah, it's all good, that is a legitimate gripe and makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

Yes, the best relief from anxiety is definitely not in a substance. Therapy, breathing exercises, physical exercise, meditation, all of these things will give you lasting relief as opposed to a benzo or something else that will cause you a bunch of rebound anxiety and dependence.
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Thank you, I appreciate you and it gives me a revived hope to see the rationale and reasoning you have as Sr. Mod of this site. Thank you for giving me the space to clarify my opinion. This is a site that I hold close to my heart as it has guided and informed me for many years. When there has been no other resource available, Bluelight has guided me. Since back in the .Ru days. Countless friends and acquaintances of mine have passed. More than I would really like to mention... I credit this site for keeping me alive in a lot of ways. The access of information on an otherwise taboo subject that I happened to be very interested and intertwined with has proved invaluable. In a very real way the harm has been reduced in my life due to the participants, curiosity and information posted on this site. The importance of these things and the harm reduction and education that this place offers is at all time high. Perhaps that is why I come off as aggressive. I am protective over this gem. I am indebted in a lot of ways.

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