approxtimately how long does it take ecstasy to catch up to you if you abuse it

[pillpopper805]

lets say if you roll 2 times a week

 

[crunchymilk]

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?postid=912511#post912511
MDMA: Essential Guide v1.00

There is no firm data, as we can't cut open human brains to check serotonin levels. By averaging a number of rat and lower primate studies, Emmanuel Sferios came up with two weeks as being the amount of time it takes for serotonin to replenish itself. Many users have agreed that this "feels right" and for a long time it has been accepted as gospel. However, taking MDMA at this rate over a length of time would result in a "loss of magic" for most users and could result in permanent damage.

Most people agree that using MDMA two nights in a row is a very bad idea. Articles on Erowid seem to indicate that one ought to wait at least a week between doses, and that waiting 4-6 weeks may make more sense. In large part, this is to allow your body to return to its natural balance. Also, neurotoxicity seems to increase with larger and more frequent doses.

It says once every two weeks can cause permanent damage if done for a long period of time, I would suspect damage would be immediate after that last pill, but I'm no expert. How long have you been taking 2 times a week?

 

[RGB]

I can almost guarantee that you're not going to get a straight answer to this question.

There's no set date on these sorts of things...they depend on so many factors that it'd be ridiculous to even attempt to estimate. Also, the definition of "catching up" can be very different for different people. Some will experience massive depression and mental difficulties, for others it will be more mild. You'll probably notice interference with your work, school, etc. and relationships with people outside of the "scene". The most likely outcome is that you'll simply cease to enjoy Ecstasy and then perhaps realize, once you stop, how much you've changed. People refer to this by various names..."losing the magic", "burning out", "getting jaded", etc. The saddest thing about it (disregarding the host of negative side effects that people usually encounter) is that you've taken something beautiful and abused it to the extent that there's nothing good left. I can't imagine that putting yourself through such a thing would leave you unscathed.

We bandy about the "minimum one month" rule not because it's a real rule, but because people who've stuck to it continue to enjoy the experience and tend not to have negative effects. There are good physiological reasons for why the rule works (it allows your body to restock depleted neurotransmitters, gives time for your receptors to downregulate, etc.), but I also think that the rule works because it teaches you to treasure and respect the experience rather than to take it for granted. Once you start to need Ecstasy to have a good time, it becomes a chore rather than a benefit.

Of course, the less scientific stuff is simply my opinion. You're free to do what you want, but you can't expect to keep asking people to give you the go-ahead to abuse it. If you intend to use it frequently, I think the best thing you can do is to simply commit to it and stop worrying about the consequences (as much as I hate to say that). It's far worse, in my opinion, to believe that you're hurting yourself and continue to do it anyway.

Again, just my two cents. Take care.

 

[RandomGuy123]

If you do this you will experience the "E-Tard effect", in other words you will be stupid in a matter of 3-4 months, give or take 2 months .

 

[RGB]

Ok, looks like I was wrong -- you did get a straight answer. Go figure. 8)

 

[bluedusk]

I believe that mdma "catching" up to you is more of a psychological problem, I may be a newer user of the drug but i have also been around people who have rolled for many years (Nothing Special) who HAVE in fact experienced minor problems like twitchs and mild headaches once in a while and they say that it's nothing a couple benzo's can't fix. Which leads "ME" to believe that it may be a mental thing that alot of people refuse to admit or simply are blind to.

 

[Bsiren]

<<--RGB said it best, all the way!

I think it's best to slow down while you're ahead- don't wait until you've notice diminished pleasure from MDMA- respect it from the beginning, follow the 1 month rule...it's very easy to negotiate and bargain with yourself "well, after this time I don't have a reason to roll for like 2 months so it's OK" etc. etc.

Everyone's body is different in terms of when you will see those negative effects, so you won't be able to nail down a real answer to that one. It's really just best not to test your limits. =)

 

[crunchymilk]

I believe that mdma "catching" up to you is more of a psychological problem, I may be a newer user of the drug but i have also been around people who have rolled for many years (Nothing Special) who HAVE in fact experienced minor problems like twitchs and mild headaches once in a while and they say that it's nothing a couple benzo's can't fix. Which leads "ME" to believe that it may be a mental thing that alot of people refuse to admit or simply are blind to.

I think this might be a very dangerous way to approach drugs.

 

[PureFire]

I think this might be a very dangerous way to approach drugs.

I agree. People too often underestimate the drugs they put in their bodies. The benzos they are taking may well be just counteracting the anxiety and depression they are suffering from as a result of altering their brain chemistry. There is definitely much more to it than just "a mental thing".

MDMA is a wonderful drug, but it's not to be taken lightly. If you continue to abuse it with this kind of frequency, it WILL catch up to you. No one here is trying to preach, the goal of this site is to imform and put good information out there, so we can stay as safe as possible while using these chemicals. Please, take the advise on this site seriously, and you'll be able to enjoy MDMA for years to come.

 

[James707]

I agree. People too often underestimate the drugs they put in their bodies. The benzos they are taking may well be just counteracting the anxiety and depression they are suffering from as a result of altering their brain chemistry. There is definitely much more to it than just "a mental thing".

MDMA is a wonderful drug, but it's not to be taken lightly. If you continue to abuse it with this kind of frequency, it WILL catch up to you. No one here is trying to preach, the goal of this site is to imform and put good information out there, so we can stay as safe as possible while using these chemicals. Please, take the advise on this site seriously, and you'll be able to enjoy MDMA for years to come.

ditto.... nicely said sir.

 

[Blazif07]

I believe that mdma "catching" up to you is more of a psychological problem, I may be a newer user of the drug but i have also been around people who have rolled for many years (Nothing Special) who HAVE in fact experienced minor problems like twitchs and mild headaches once in a while and they say that it's nothing a couple benzo's can't fix. Which leads "ME" to believe that it may be a mental thing that alot of people refuse to admit or simply are blind to.

Taking more drugs to mask the damage that another drug has caused doesn't sound like a "mental thing" to me.

Neurotoxicity and long lasting brain damage is a possibility and a reality with MDMA. It's not just people being hypochondriacs. While fried brain receptors are in your head.... the damage isn't "just all in your head" (see what I just did there ).

This is just my chest beating opinion; but, if you're not mature and responsible enough to research the science behind what happens when you do MDMA (or any drug for that matter). Then you are not mature and responsible enough to use the drug. Just because you have heard people say "oh yeah, I roll all the time and I'm fine and dandy!" doesn't mean that everything going on in their body is kosher.

And like you quoted from them: "nothing a few benzos can't fix"... Bud, that's not fixing the problem. That's just covering up symptoms and possibly setting yourself up for an awesome benzo addiction. I hear those are real REAL fun...8)

It amazes and depresses me to no end that people can and will toy around with things that can have severe and long lasting reprocussions to their health FOR LIFE without giving a single thought to "what is actually going on when in me when I do this".

Anyways, like I said... That's my opinion. I'm not trying to bitch at you... But I kind of am. It's ridiculous to state that DOCUMENTED side effects of abusing MDMA are just a figment of one's imagination.

/rant

 

[Maker'sMark]

Everybody's brain chemistry and body is different.

I averaged about 2x a month for about 4 months I think, for a total of 9 times.

The 9th session was significantly lower in pleasure/intensity and all other times I had an afterglow but this time I had a horrible headache.
I felt it caught up to me and made me realize I might've been abusing it a bit, imo. At the same time I don't necessarily regret those decisions.

It's been 2 months since the last time and I'm waiting at least another year for my next session.

 

[docspock]

I've been one week long binges and haven't felt shit. Its all about your body. If u have a right mindset your brain can go far

 

[Legerity]

I've been one week long binges and haven't felt shit. Its all about your body. If u have a right mindset your brain can go far

There are few people who's body/mind can go on week long binges without negative consequences. Binging on any drugs is generally more likely to cause problems.

As stated above, the problems associated with MDMA abuse are well documented. These aren't scare tactics - people should be informed of the risks involved.

Just because Uncle Joe smoked 3 packs a day and didn't get cancer doesn't mean that smoking 3 packs a day doesn't significantly increase your chances of getting cancer.

 

[ddabs]

I've been one week long binges and haven't felt shit. Its all about your body. If u have a right mindset your brain can go far

true but this kids mindset is probably not the right one.. haha you -pillpopper have been posting for like a week about how you roll without end.. well once you do stop for over a week or 2 thats when things will start to "catch up" even a month later new things will start...I bet years from now I personally will get fucked up side effects that I dont even know yet from abusing so bad...

 

[eLW]

MDMA is a drugs. when you take it you make your brain work different, doing it so often will make you brain serotonin depleted, you will start feeling different, and will not even notice it sometimes. then later it will grow on, in one moment you will start feeling paranoid, anxiety,stress, nothing will be the same anymore, and you will ask youreslf why the fuck i did this?! You will blame yourself for doing it so much, as almost all of us did here dont abuse it!

 

[georgewc2001]

So many variables here...mainly your age and how long you've been doing it. Whichever way you decide to go, I'd suggest having a plan of action for when you stop or for when it stops working. Have an activity you can resort to that is stimulating enough that you'll be able to enjoy it because once your seratonin is blown, you'll have a hard time enjoying things until it comes back.

For me, those activities include things like skiing, martial arts, working out, etc. Only they provide a level of intensity like e. If I didn't have these for those times when I've gotten out of hand with e, not sure how I would've pulled through the recovery period.

IMO, you're better off just keeping your roll to once a month at the most cause even that will catch up with you if you keep doing it. When e becomes the focal point in your life cause of how great it is, it can be somewhat devasting when it just stops working or "loses it's magic." That's why I'm saying you better have something on the backburner and I wouldn't make it another drug cause that's gonna really send you down the rabbit hole.

 

[crunchymilk]

So many variables here...mainly your age and how long you've been doing it. Whichever way you decide to go, I'd suggest having a plan of action for when you stop or for when it stops working. Have an activity you can resort to that is stimulating enough that you'll be able to enjoy it because once your seratonin is blown, you'll have a hard time enjoying things until it comes back.

For me, those activities include things like skiing, martial arts, working out, etc. Only they provide a level of intensity like e. If I didn't have these for those times when I've gotten out of hand with e, not sure how I would've pulled through the recovery period.

IMO, you're better off just keeping your roll to once a month at the most cause even that will catch up with you if you keep doing it. When e becomes the focal point in your life cause of how great it is, it can be somewhat devasting when it just stops working or "loses it's magic." That's why I'm saying you better have something on the backburner and I wouldn't make it another drug cause that's gonna really send you down the rabbit hole.

This is good advice, I think of E as merely something to do every 3 months or so. I'll go to work, live my life as healthy as possible and then roll off some good stuff like 3 times a year. My life used to revolve around it when I was a teen, but now it seems much more pleasurable for me to live my life and have E as that once in awhile event.

 

[borednhd]

I't took me and my wife about 3 months. We used to only do it once a month. We would take one pill each. We would have the best time with just one. Then we started to do more and more at a time. I think we have taken ten in one night each. You feel HORRIBLE. No energy. Mad at everyone. We lost the magic. It's been a week since we did it. I'm not shaky anymore. But I still have problems sleeping and talking. Not to mention all the money we have thrown away. I honestly feel stupid now. I feel I need it to go out and have fun. It's not worth it. Do it once a month or two months. Trust me from someone that knows.

 

[solareclipse6]

For me, about 48 hours after the last pill. That's when it'll catch up, have fun? :-(