Anyone who goes to a Rave Sober is a Faggot

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Guess what?! I was at a partE the other day and I overheard two fucked up guys talking to each other, and the one guy said "Anyone who goes to a rave sober is a faggot." I couldn't believe that I heard that.
I didn't say anything because I didn't want to start a problem, but that is one of the most ignorant things that I've ever heard. I've been to many raves sober, and I usually have fun. Being messed up has a minimal effect on my amount of fun.
Also, I'm not sure if they meant the faggot part literally, but a lot of my friends are gay. Some roll, some don't. So I dont think that sexuality has anything to do with it.
I know almost everyone else agrees about this right? I really had no idea people could be so closed-minded.
 
im in total agreement with lexus here, that statement itself is such a stupid thing. Ive been to raves sober too, ive had fun too. Some people go to raves just cause they like the vibe, and theres nothign wrong with that at all.
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I've been to a couple parties sober and I had an okay time. The only problem was seeing everyone else really messy.It was weird but I saw them differently and it was sort of annoying. I mean, I was just standing there and some girl comes up to me and starts rubbing my face with a vibrating toy. I know she had good intentions, but I really hate how people assume that everyone was on E. So now I always wonder if I'm like that after I dose...oh well...
 
Yeah I know what you're talking about! Sometimes when I go to a rave sober some of the people can look scary.
 
screw that guy man!!! this is how i look at it , f you can't go ta rave sober and enjoy the music and have fun, then you are in it for the totally wrong reasons. iv'e been to plenty raves sober and had a great tyme, that guy must be a real loser. the music comes first
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candygirl
 
Candygirl.
Spot on.
The Music!
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Chaos
 
Whenever I'm sober at a rave, my focus tends to be more on the DJ and the music.. looking, learning, obseving. Im not as focused on dancing and having a good time when im sober.
But thats not what this comment was about.
This comment was made by the scum that is invecting our scene and destroying our vibe. These are the type of people that get parties shut down because they overdosed in thier quest to "get really fucked up!!".
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a pH phenomenonAcidBurn
 
I read the topic of this post, and I came in here just REARIN to flame... thankfully, the post wasn't about... well not DIRECTLY about what the topic said.
you can't even BEGIN to imagine how absolutely sick I am of hearing THAT WORD used in that context. I am utterly sick of the intolerance, and ignorance on the subject.
and I get to look foreward to it for the rest of my life. woo hoo...
I realy hope that hearing things like that make you all realize how annoying it is... or even more than annoying... to some it is hurtful.
don'tget me wrong, I joke about it all the time, my friends and I (straight, and gay) call eachother all KINDS of names... in fun... but it is just that. In fun.
but on the topic of sober partying? I am all for it... and before I do something creepy (like attack someone with some fort of e-toy) I allways ask if they are on something first.... courtesy.
anyways, I think I'm done. =)
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The thing i really hate, and i experienced this this past weekend, when peeps come up to you at a party and you are sober or trippin or stuck or anything else besides rollin,
and they come up to you and there start hugging you and being all nice and then they ask "are you rollin?" and I would say no, Im stuck or whatever and they will pull away look at you all evil and say something to the effect of "oh your not? well, whatever with you then!"
and storm off. i think this is rude. Its like, somepeople think that if you are not rolling you are the lowest life form on earth or something. sorry to gripe.
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MaD LoVin, Jessiy
 
I am sick...I think ignorance such as these two idiots is hilarious....I literally started laughing cuz I can see it as a Saturday Night Live skit....Maybe have the two guys from "Night at the Roxbury" dress up as ravers in phat pants and the whole bit...And you know the "stupid&ignorant" tone of voice sometimes used in skit comedy would surely have to be used...Have them doing the lamest, most rythymless dance possible....then they stop dancing....And start telling each other how fucked up the other one is...like "oh man, you're soooo fukt up. arent you?", "oh yeah, but you're way more fukt up than me." **both start a really annoying laf**. Then one says "yeah man, ne one who goes raving sober is a FAGGOT!" (no offense paradox, I couldn't care any less what ur sexual pref is). I dunno, I find humor where other people take offense, then again I take offense where other people find humor....oh well, hope I dont get torched at the stake for this one.
LATER!
PLUR!
stepper69
 
it really sucks that somebody said that. i can have just as much fun dancin my ass off sober and checkin out music that i do rollin. with an attitude like that he should stay home and roll!
 
don't get me wrong... I find it REALY funny when unintelegent, ignorant people say things like that... (to an extent)
HOWEVER
where I start get to get frustrated is when people... perfectly intelegent people, start calling this "gay" and that "gay"... I can take a joke, all in good fun.
I can laugh at realy dumb people, who don't know any better... hell, I even try to educate them. I'm just stating my frustration...
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"Like a shooting star,
Accross the midnight sky!"
-BANG!
PaRaDoX -and PLUR for all!
 
Y'know, Paradox, I know exactly what you mean. That's always pissed me off, so much so that I've ranted quite a bit on the subject many a time. Y'know, the whole "regardless of how you meant it, it's still reinforcing a negative cultural stereotype blahblahblah etc etc" thing.
And yet my friend, who I know was witness to at least one of these rants, referred to something as "gay" the other night. I looked at him weird, but held my tongue as I've never heard him use it like that before, so I assumed it was some bizzare trick of reality or something. So later on he says it again in reference to something else. I'm all "it's stupid, it's not gay, it's stupid." There was a moment of awkward silence (though only briefly) and then he continued on with the topic as if I didn't say anything.
Shit like that frustrates the hell out of me. Especially coming from a friend. Someone who can't even claim ignorance, just plain insensitivity. I'm STILL baffled at that.
As for the two idiots who can't seem to have fun sober... Hopefully one day they'll understand. But with that attitude they sure as hell won't. I actually feel sorry for them.
Loupy
 
Right on, right on... everybody's got great things to say about this example of intolerance, or insensitivity, or whatever the case may be.
And a lot of the time, it IS insensitivity, rather than something said out of spite. People just not thinking that their words could hurt someone, or not caring. I've known some honestly non-prejudice people who still use the term, 'That is so gay', or variations of it, just because everyone around them says it.
Doesn't make it excusable.
I dunno if it's because I'm bi myself, or because I was raised by such bleeding liberals, or because I know so many absolutely wonderful kids who just happen to not be straight... but either way, it's an issue I could totally jump up on the soap box about (which... I suppose is exactly what I'm doing right now *chuckle* ).
A lot of times you can weed out the bigots from the insensitive types by just making them think about it, or how stupid it sounds... I usually say something. Not even confrontational usually either, just something to make them think about it.
Like this kid once said to his friend, "Those shoes are so gay", I just kinda looked at him for a second and then kinda quirked a 'you-just-annoyed-me-but-I'm-gonna-play-it-cool' sarcastic grin and said, "Maybe they're lesbian shoes. Or bi-curious... you never know. But I dunno, if I saw my left shoe checking out another left shoe, I'd just totally kick its ass, yanno?" Anyway, it worked and he grinned and ammended, "Sorry, they're stupid shoes, okay?"
I mean, I know the term is a petty matter, and a lot of gay and lesbian kids honestly couldn't care one way or another if they hear someone call someone elses shoes or whatever gay. But I dunno, it grates a little. My little brother and sister both use this term pretty regularly, just because it's what all their friends say. Deep down I know they don't mean harm by it, and I know they're cool with their big sis being bi, but I dunno... I wish my parents left-wing, tolerant teachings woulda rubbed off a bit more. Comments like that always sting more when they fall from the lips of someone you care about.
~*~ Ashke ~*~
 
how to communicate this to these johnny-come-latelys before they ruin their respective scenes?:
1) this scene is sacred, the people, the space, the music, the experience.
2) this is not Michelob time. Drugs are illegal, should be used and talked about with discretion. They are placed on this planet as sacraments to redirect humans to their true inner spirit, not as chemically-enhanced mental masturbation.
3) people at parties, in raves, in public, on the street, in buses, houses, etc. are perceptive. Even if what you say isn't heard by someone who feels hurt from it, it releases this fart of negative energy into the atmosphere.
4) there is so much more to the raving/partying/clubbing experience than being at a rave/club/party on drugs. Hello? Anybody ever see their friends in the daylight, or hung out with them without getting buzzed?
5) it's so much better to be buzzed than fucked-up. if your buzzed, your in control of your feelings, senses, words, actions. You can go where your soul wants to go. If you're fucked up, your being led around by weird entities, and you can say and do the stupidist shit. Be here now, 'nuff said.
6) lastly, are you going to add to the place you're at, or are you going to detract and be a burden and a leech? Do you come empty-handed, in terms of bringing things as well as mentally? Good scenes are built on people bringing in more for everyone. Good scenes turn bad when people try to extract their undue share on a regular basis. Do you ever see guys that gripe about there not being enough females, but show up with 5 of their guy friends?
one love-positive evolution-our choice
 
It's plain and simple - "If you get the beats, you really don't need the treats. The real drug is coming out of the speaker." Deciding to indulge makes the experience just a little more deeper.
However, I usually will not attend a party/club if I know that the music is not "up to standard". I don't want to come across as snobbish by saying it this way, but I think alot of you know what I mean. If you have someone on the decks who knows what there pumping into your eardrums, it makes all the difference. I spend a lot of my free time digging through crates of vinyl, trying to find intelligent, thought provoking selections to spin for friends at house parties, etc. When I go to a venue, I expect to be brought on a musical journey. If I am not taken there by the DJ, game over.
I think a lot of people don't see it this way. The parties just become a place to pump mind numbing drugs into their system.
Live for the music and only enhance it with the chems. Its redundant but sooooo true.
One more note - fall in love with someone. It becomes so much easier to attend sober.
Peace.
 
AMEN synthetic... (however you spelled it) you hit the nail on the head.
and Ashke, you too. But usualy shooting my friends a glare is enough to set them... ahem, straight. (hehe
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PLUR!
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"Like a shooting star,
Accross the midnight sky!"
-BANG!
PaRaDoX -and PLUR for all!
 
Ummm...I thought it was funny as hell.
A part of me wished the title of the thread had no text backing it up...just a random statement standing alone.
...and no, I'm not a homophobe (to those who didn't witness the "Bob" incident), I just take no offense at labels; I understand them and remove the "significance" attached to them. Think about some of the words humanity uses to describe ethnic, religious, or sexual minorities: Faggot, nigger, kyke, wop, mick, nip, chink, spic--and my personal favorites--honky and cracker. Actually, my favorite is jungle bunny...the mental image it conjures up is absolutely priceless!
I'm sorry people, but these are funny words. The intent is what matters. I kinda wish "jungle bunny" didn't have negative connotations...I'd love to address all of my friends that way, but there's no telling who might not see the humor I do.
Does this mean I use these words? Sometimes, but not in a negative context...and certainly not to someone I might offend, no point getting my ass kicked over a joke. I guess I've learned which battles to fight.
 
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