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Harm Reduction Anyone use ibuprofen or another anti-inflammatory chronically or long term? What dose and how is it?

JohnBoy2000

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I believe it's use is intended to be confined to 10 days in adults, unless prescribed by a Dr.

Max dose 3200 mg/day (which is a lot).

Used chronically it can deprive certain areas of blood flow (such as the inner ear), causing tinnitus (which sucks).

Unsure of the frequency with which that happens however.

I believe it inhibits prostaglandin production, which is normally responsible for inflammation.

But anyone use it long term and any side effects, concerns, thoughts, experiences etc?
 
We've made significant advancements in our understanding of inflammation in general over the past couple decades but much is still to learn. We've known about about the risks of corticosteroids for a very long time now and in many cases they can be disabling. What isn't as clear is the long term risks of the COX inhibitors and the risks of inhibiting inflammation systemically.

Gastro, cardiac, hepatic and kidney damage are all well known risks of using COX inhibitors such as Ibuprofen and Diclofenac. The latest research focuses more on systemic inhibition of inflammation as opposed to specific drug effects.

There's so much more to learn on this topic but among the more recent discoveries are the following:
Delayed wound healing, disruption of immune system surveillance (the bodies way of monitoring the health and identity of cells in the body), an increased risk of infection, effects on bone (and even cardiac) remodeling, muscle atrophy (a big no-no if you have chronic pain), metabolic effects (think insulin resistance) and finally, the big one: Mental health effects.

I think more then anything, the consequences of inhibiting inflammation on a persons mental health has been discussed more then any of the above. We see an increased rate of mental health issues in those using anti-inflammatories for extended periods of time although it is mostly correlational and far more work needs to be done on this topic.

When you think about it, this is all really obvious. Inflammation is integral to healing the body (and brain). Cells detect an problem in the body, inflammatory cells travel to the site, and through a complicated process of various mechanisms, the process of healing begins. Clearly systemically inhibiting this process isn't without risk. At the end of the day, like all medications, its up to you to way the pro's and con's. It's more difficult to do in areas like this, because the risks arent entirely clear.

Either way, if Ibuprofen makes your life that little bit easier, i'd say take it. Also, 3,200mg per day is infact a lot. In my country, clinical guidelines are clear that the maximum dose is 400mg every four hours or 2,400mg per day. I think even this dose used for potentially decades is too high.
 
Up, for more info/experience-accounts etc.

Tooth pain sucks, ibuprofen is seriously effective against it, but side effect wise, I'm still unsure what's what.

Anyone ever experience dry-mouth whilst using it?
 
Hi,
My aunt, who was taking Brufen 600 daily, had to stop due to increased liver enzymes, especially GGT. She switched to Tramadol 50 mg. prolonged release and seems to be feeling better.
 
I found out the hard way what Ibuprofen can do to your body. I woke up one morning in 2022 with a slight pain on the left lower side of my stomach…no big deal. It got worse through the day. My partner got home from work around midnight and could see I wasn’t acting right and the pain was getting worse. He drove me to the hospital.

Long story short I woke up in the ICU 3 days later after having 3 of 5 surgeries on my stomach due to a 3cm hole inside my stomach. The hole caused sepsis, kidney and liver failure, I was given 30% chance of survival. I was in the hospital for an additional 15 days. My doctor’s said this was all caused from me taking Ibuprofen pretty regularly for chronic ankle pain from 4 previous surgeries.

It was a very long recovery and I now have scars from the top of my chest to my lower abdomen. I had 38 stitches total.

I was careless with how much I was taking and didn’t take the warning labels on the bottle seriously because you know…that happens to other people.

Just wanted to share my story. Good luck to you 😊
 
i did for a multitude of things, tooth pain, headaches etc. regular overuse of NSAIDS combined with alcohol gave me acute gastritis which then progressed to chronic GERD. ibuprofen put me in the emergency room with stomach bleeding that put me into shock- nsaids are definitely not for daily/regular use!!
 
I thought there was hope for a moment:

Purpose: Both isoforms of cyclo-oxygenase, COX-1 and COX-2, are inhibited to varying degrees by all of the available nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). Because inhibition of COX-1 by NSAIDs is linked to gastrointestinal ulcer formation, those drugs that selectively inhibit COX-2 may have less gastrointestinal toxicity. We measured the extent to which NSAIDs and other anti-inflammatory or analgesic drugs inhibit COX-1 and COX-2 in humans.

Results: Inhibitory potency and selectivity of NSAIDs for COX-1 and COX-2 activity in blood varied greatly. Some NSAIDs (eg, flurbiprofen, ketoprofen) were COX-1 selective, some (eg, ibuprofen, naproxen) were essentially nonselective, while others (eg, diclofenac, mefenamic acid) were COX-2 selective. Inhibitory effects of NSAIDs on gastric prostaglandin E2 synthesis correlated with COX-1 inhibitory potency in blood (P < 0.001) and with COX-1 selectivity (P < 0.01), but not with COX-2 inhibitory potency. Even COX-2 "selective" NSAIDs still had sufficient COX-1 activity to cause potent inhibitory effects on gastric prostaglandin E2 synthesis at concentrations achieved in vivo.

Conclusion:
No currently marketed NSAID, even those that are COX-2 selective, spare gastric COX activity at therapeutic concentrations. Thus, all NSAIDs should be used cautiously until safer agents are developed.

Via: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9626023/

But no.

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Taking NSAIDS with "nexium" (esomeprazole) or proton pump inhibitors (antacids for the stomach) apparently does render a meaningful prevention of gastro intestinal side effects.
 
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