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Anyone know the Ksp of MDMA? Lol
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MazDan
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Scuse my silliness but does ksp mean solubility?
If so then Im pretty sure its 100% soluble or is there a measure for speed of solubility at a certain temp etc?
If so then Im pretty sure its 100% soluble or is there a measure for speed of solubility at a certain temp etc?
The pills probably don't disolve well do to the binders in them. I'm not sure the KSP of MDMA, but it is for sure soluble and you shouldn't have any probably dissolving a regular dose (60->180mg) into a cup/bottle of water.
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MazDan
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As KD said, pills when crushed still wont fully disolve due to fillers and binders that may not be soluble.
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No idea on the number. Although this database might be able to help you. http://srdata.nist.gov/solubility/intro.aspx
I know that 20mg/ml dissolves easily is .9% saline solution, room temp, that's the max I've seen in practice, so I'd assume it's a much higher number than that in distilled water at 25 degrees, probably in the hundreds. GHB is somewhere between 300mg/ml and 600mg/ml (300 dissolved for me, but not 600), don't know if that's any help.
As for what you actually want to know about, KD and MD answered. Pills are not 100% MDMA. It's the other junk that's not so soluble.
I know that 20mg/ml dissolves easily is .9% saline solution, room temp, that's the max I've seen in practice, so I'd assume it's a much higher number than that in distilled water at 25 degrees, probably in the hundreds. GHB is somewhere between 300mg/ml and 600mg/ml (300 dissolved for me, but not 600), don't know if that's any help.
As for what you actually want to know about, KD and MD answered. Pills are not 100% MDMA. It's the other junk that's not so soluble.
MazDan
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Moral Decay
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a single point (100mg) easily dissolves in 50ml of water, Gatorade or fruit juice. I usually dump mine in a shot of juice or vodka so that it comes on faster rather then taking a capsule. I personally believe that taking it in a shot of vodka helps it to absorb into the stomach lining more quickly, it dissolves into the alcohol which crosses the blood barrier faster then other drugs beverages or food.
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I would be surprised if you could find a specific figure, but it's highly soluble in water. (As are most amine salts.)
Although most of the MDMA molecule is non-polar (relatively), the non-polar interactions (van der waals forces) are still relatively weak compared to the attraction between the amine and water, allowing water molecules to latch onto and drag apart MDMA hydrochloride crystals fairly easily. (The fact that it's sold as an amine salt is important to producing that water solubility, since the protonated R-(NH2+)-R is a lot more polar than R-NH-R.)
Although most of the MDMA molecule is non-polar (relatively), the non-polar interactions (van der waals forces) are still relatively weak compared to the attraction between the amine and water, allowing water molecules to latch onto and drag apart MDMA hydrochloride crystals fairly easily. (The fact that it's sold as an amine salt is important to producing that water solubility, since the protonated R-(NH2+)-R is a lot more polar than R-NH-R.)
Isn't there a way of figuring this out for yourself? it would be an interesting thing to know.
I remember in my class we used to keep adding more until there was precipitate or something. Don't really remember. We need to know it for the exam though :/
I remember in my class we used to keep adding more until there was precipitate or something. Don't really remember. We need to know it for the exam though :/