anyone kick without help?

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This is the 4th time I'm trying to kick a roxy habit It has gotten bad I can do 700 mg a day easy try to limit myself to 300.They are very expensive and I no longer feel high.just normal.I got ten suboxzone strips and this is day three.My life has become unmanageable.I can pay my bills with one weeks pay and I'm still broke. I have been on this train for 3 or 4 years and I want off!!FUCK THIS
 
Man you can do it. I kicked a 6 gram a day heroin habit with nothing more than a script of clonodine and a few benzos. Its going to hurt man but you gotta know you brought it on yourself ya know? Its going to take some incredible will power. If your like me you probably know that if you keep using your going to die. I couldn't do it alone. 12 step meeting helped a ton and I dunno if I could have done it without them. Just know that your life is more than a fuckin pill ya dig?

You can do it man. Give it five days and you're going to be feeling so much better. Don't be afraid to ask for help. This disease will fucking kill us and we shouldn't be afraid to ask for help wherever we can. Good luck man!
 
Day 4 I'm down to one sub left taking little doses say 1mg the strips I have are 8 so I cut them up.I'm not sick just feel really strange been sleeping better than I did on dope thanks to xanax.I also have some super weed it's way strong one toke and I'm baked I think it makeS it worse paranoid like a mofo.I pray God helps me be strong enough to beat this.I'm not gonna take anymore sub unless I freak out!WHAT SHOULD I EXPECT FOR HERE PLEASE ANY INPUT WOULD BE SO HELPFULL I'VE BEEN READING THIS SITE FOR SIX MONTHS RARELY EVER POST JUST READ AND LEARN.
 
A lot depends on your age and how long you were taking the roxies, I've found. You are already ahead of the game by having successfully transitioned to subs in the short-term, I suspect that will make the whole thing easier in the long run. In any event, no matter what the days and weeks ahead bring, it's all about endurance; just getting through each day until the days string together into weeks and then months. I will be 90 days clean from a 10 year heavy oxy/roxy+hydro+soma habit on Tuesday and I am still having some residual symptoms (mainly anxiety, sneezing -though that has diminished from approx 200x/day down to like 10x/day - and digestive issues, plus crushing boredom, restlessness, and lack of energy from having heavily numbed my brain for 10 years), but you needn't expect your withdrawals to last that long: I am 40, AND had a decade-long multi-drug habit. Withdrawal at age 30 or even 35 was an entirely different and much easier experience, so hopefully you have relative youth going for you.

If you ease off the subs very slowly, I think you'll have mild-to-moderate withdrawal symptoms from here on out. Of course everyone is different, but what ultimately matters is your commitment to staying clean no matter what happens in the days ahead. You've already taken a huge step, so congratulations on that. Just push through the days ahead, push through the discomfort and boredom and restlessness and try hard to hold on to the belief in a better future for yourself and your loved ones. It sounds deceptively simple and almost cliche, but it's really all there is, in my experience. When you are feeling like shit every day, it's easy to forget that every single day your brain IS healing. Two months ago, I literally could not stand up for more than 15 minutes at a time and my whole body would shake for like 30 minutes after taking a shower. Yesterday I cleaned out the fridge, went grocery shopping (for the first time in 3 years) and went out to dinner with friends...like a normal human being! It's hard to measure progress in seconds and minutes and hours as they pass, but despite how sometimes every passing minute feels unbearable, progress is undeniable when looked at in the larger sense. Good luck to you.
 
I'm 46 never took a pill until I was 42 and started a new job where everyone was takings hydrocodone at first they were free.That progressed to the oxy and roxy felt great at first Top of the World!As time past it took more and more to get the same feeling soon I'm taking money out of my IRA roth to pay my bills and the shit don't even get me high just well or not sick.Fuck those things Hind sight is 20/20 looking back it's a bit fuzzy
 
A lot depends on your age and how long you were taking the roxies, I've found. You are already ahead of the game by having successfully transitioned to subs in the short-term, I suspect that will make the whole thing easier in the long run. In any event, no matter what the days and weeks ahead bring, it's all about endurance; just getting through each day until the days string together into weeks and then months. I will be 90 days clean from a 10 year heavy oxy/roxy+hydro+soma habit on Tuesday and I am still having some residual symptoms (mainly anxiety, sneezing -though that has diminished from approx 200x/day down to like 10x/day - and digestive issues, plus crushing boredom, restlessness, and lack of energy from having heavily numbed my brain for 10 years), but you needn't expect your withdrawals to last that long: I am 40, AND had a decade-long multi-drug habit. Withdrawal at age 30 or even 35 was an entirely different and much easier experience, so hopefully you have relative youth going for you.

If you ease off the subs very slowly, I think you'll have mild-to-moderate withdrawal symptoms from here on out. Of course everyone is different, but what ultimately matters is your commitment to staying clean no matter what happens in the days ahead. You've already taken a huge step, so congratulations on that. Just push through the days ahead, push through the discomfort and boredom and restlessness and try hard to hold on to the belief in a better future for yourself and your loved ones. It sounds deceptively simple and almost cliche, but it's really all there is, in my experience. When you are feeling like shit every day, it's easy to forget that every single day your brain IS healing. Two months ago, I literally could not stand up for more than 15 minutes at a time and my whole body would shake for like 30 minutes after taking a shower. Yesterday I cleaned out the fridge, went grocery shopping (for the first time in 3 years) and went out to dinner with friends...like a normal human being! It's hard to measure progress in seconds and minutes and hours as they pass, but despite how sometimes every passing minute feels unbearable, progress is undeniable when looked at in the larger sense. Good luck to you.
CG, your post gives me some small semblance of hope! I often feel ill never kick this shit-i am 47 n tired, tired, tired. Thanx.
 
i been clean for some months now just with a lil suboxone u just gotta have the mindset to really wanna quit and try hard....also get rid of any drug related things u might have
 
I, along with 99% of Irish, British (and most mainland western European users) have been forced off Heroin since late October/early November 2010 because of a drought; fuck sake we still can figure out what the fuck happened and things are very far from normal almost five months on.

I managed to quit an 18 month bi-daily smoking habit (afgan #3 I believe) cold turkey. It wasnt as bad as I thought it would be, then again I was already depressed and consequently at rock bottom before I touched Heroin so instead of feeling any PAWs after the initial acute withdrawals (lower back pain, insomnia, chills/hot flushes and sneezing) I just lapsed back into my daily grind of being torn between wanting to kill myself and wanting so, so much to live and give to the world.

If you've anything specific you want to know then fire away but if its anything to do with PAWs then I may not be the best person to answer as I've had the symptoms of PAWs since shit really began to hit the fan as regards my depression 10 years ago. Fuck, Heroin was a relief - it was that or suicide.

Bits and pieces are trickling through now in relation to the shortage; I've made a couple of new contacts with regular pre-drought gear but I'm willing to give medication another try before I resign myself to the fact that Heroin is the only thing keeping me alive.
 
Man you can do it. I kicked a 6 gram a day heroin habit with nothing more than a script of clonodine and a few benzos. Its going to hurt man but you gotta know you brought it on yourself ya know? Its going to take some incredible will power. If your like me you probably know that if you keep using your going to die. I couldn't do it alone. 12 step meeting helped a ton and I dunno if I could have done it without them. Just know that your life is more than a fuckin pill ya dig?

You can do it man. Give it five days and you're going to be feeling so much better. Don't be afraid to ask for help. This disease will fucking kill us and we shouldn't be afraid to ask for help wherever we can. Good luck man!

That is fucking profound man; much respect to you bro. How long did it take you to start smiling again? Did you experience PAWs?
 
For 5 years I used Oxycontin Daily. By the end up the 5 year run I was taking 5 80s per day. I was near death and knew I had to change something. So I took myself to another City, laced with a few Vals and Xanax. Few bottles of Vodka and locked myself in a hotel room. Keep in mind by this time I had took two months winging off to hydrocodones. Thats the key. The gradual taper. The habit can be kicked by yourself but proper tapering is a must.
 
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