Anyone ever been to a medication party?

[nuttynutskin]

If they even exist, because I've only heard of them jokingly. Anyways, has anyone actually been to one?

 

[《Plasticity》]

What's a medication party? Like a party where the drugs of choice are pharmaceuticals as opposed to alcohol? Gatherings where everyone shares their boner pills and have orgies?

 

[szuko000]

I think the OP is referring to one of those scenarios where everyone tosses pills into a bowl and takes them at random, or some other haphazard way created by the media. I would say as a general rule people are way to greedy with drugs to engage in this behavior. The only people who may are very young teenagers who most likely have access to boring or otherwise dangerous medications. I would imagine these "parties" may happen once in a region I.E the entire NE united states may experience one group of kids actually participating in this in a year

It just seems to me like anyone with common sense would realize that this is not likely to produce the results they want. I could see one person thinking it was a good idea when they were young but you would need to get everyone in on it. I just dont see it happening.

 

[kvsouth69]

Yes, attended one....it was everyone was supposed to put their stashes out and have a buffet of meds...except of course it didn't really work bc people were acting like they didn't have more than 2 of something.....anyway stupid idea long ago.

 

[treezy z]

I would snatch the bowl of drugs and if anyone had a problem with it bad things would happen.

But no I've never been to one, always sounded like either a fake media thing or something private school kids would do.

 

[kaosisallwesee]

Hah what a dumb idea, "let's all take a random mixture meds until we're wasted!"
I could see this going pretty bad for any naive/unexperienced party goers.
Especially when it'll likely be a mix of opiates/oids and benzo's.

 

[Nom de Plume]

Well, my carousing cohorts and I don't really refer to them as 'pill parties'. But yes I know the kind. And I've not only heard of them, I've gone to 'em and even hosted my own, too.

Our way is not to mix a plethora of pills in a bowl and thus have every reveler convulsing on the floor as they await the sound of sirens and the knock of EMTs.

Rather, our rendition of the idea of these so-called pill parties involves

1.) the acquisition of very covetable and desirable prescription drugs (don't ask how and don't think it, either), say, pentobarbital or hydromorphone or desoxyn. The choice of drugs is not random, but a tally is taken of each member's pill of preference and quantity requested for the upcoming gala. Then, based on the prospective attendants' answers, the pharmaceuticals are procured and stored until the fête commences.

2.) Some DIY drugs are the main event—secobarbital, methaqualone, ketobemidone, and any interesting or requested drug that is a.) in powder form so that one may have them pressed into a tablet or squeezed inside a gel capsule, b.) not incredibly difficult to synth, say like ibogaine or something, and c.) doesn't break the bank or empty pockets to produce. These homemade psychotropics are more risky than the pharmaceuticals, because one must take care in getting the dosage just right. Also, safety is ensured by using certain excipients to give each drug a different colored tablet and, using one out of 200 available self-made dies/punches, the drug's PubChem CID number is pressed onto each side of the tablet. For capsules, one merely places them in medicine bottles and label them.

3.) The hobnobbers and I then rendezvous at a predetermined host location, and the designated pill (or piller, we affectionately say) is tasked with distributing the pills amongst the poppers, as might a bartender dispense drinks to the habitués of a watering hole.

It may seem senseless and inane to have these events, but the appeal is in the variety of drugs available, the avoidance of street drugs mixed with God knows what, the absence of a threat LEO may come barging through the front door to spoil the fun and sully our immaculate rap sheets, and the cordial and gregarious milieu. Not to mention, it obviates sketchy back-alley drug deals with unscrupulous thugs or possibly getting nabbed by a Narc.

 

[dankhead88]

No but I've been to an IV gathering where we've binged on heroin and methamphetamine all night?

 

[Nom de Plume]

No but I've been to an IV gathering where we've binged on heroin and methamphetamine all night?

Therein lies the whole idea behind the types of shindig I expounded on in my post (#7).

1.) an IV get-together can easily start to look like a corpse convention because a.) IV is a risky ROA for the untrained, b.) syringe sharing is very likely, turning the scene from a mirthful IV epicenter to a mortal epidemic of hepatitis and HIV.

2.) Methamphetamine and heroin are both dicey vices to partake of. Not because the drugs are simply bad, but that their quality invariably is.

I remember hearing awhile back about some simpleton unwittingly dealing fentanyl to consumers thinking they were getting heroin. Needless to say, a state-wide mass death and thousands of ODs was the unfortunate result.

So street drugs proffered by street thugs: only if the product is pure, the price is right, and you've got no alternative in sight.

 

[dankhead88]

Nah, no sharing here. It was just a thing on my birthday. Bought both and all of us gave each other some of our own stash, other than that we all had new rigs and sanitary equipment minus the micron filter. Meth I can trust a little more as it comes from south of the border, but feh, I wish heroin wasn't so different every batch. Some days it more cut some days it's less cut. I also tend to wash the meth with anhydrous acetone after I get the product. Although it won't get rid of everything, it's certainly a before and after photo.

 

[Nom de Plume]

Nah, no sharing here. It was just a thing on my birthday. Bought both and all of us gave each other some of our own stash, other than that we all had new rigs and sanitary equipment minus the micron filter. Meth I can trust a little more as it comes from south of the border, but feh, I wish heroin wasn't so different every batch. Some days it more cut some days it's less cut. I also tend to wash the meth with anhydrous acetone after I get the product. Although it won't get rid of everything, it's certainly a before and after photo.

While I doubt you could perform a total synthesis of heroin, I'm curious why you bother to buy your methamphetamine from venal intermediaries in lieu of making your own?

Maybe my question is inappropriate and makes you uncomfortable, and I apologise about that.

But what is the allure of buying crank from greedy and nefarious middlemen when you can do as they or their suppliers do: make it yourself. I've seen the synthesis, and it's a complete cinch. With the right accoutrements and the appropriate precursors, one could churn out a lifetime's supply of the stuff in less than a fortnight.

Yeah, yeah yeah. The precursors and lab provisions are too regulated. I've heard that before. And all it means is take one step back, then another, then another until you find a precursor's precursors' precursors that are not regulated. Sure, the procedure is now more time-consuming and intricate, but with enough patience aand diligence, any illegal or watched compound can be synthesised from legal and unwatched compounds.

I encountered a similar pessimistic "we can't do it, bro!" attitude from an assistant working with a job requiring toluene. I shan't get into the details, however, for obvious reasons.

In summary, stop flirting with an untimely death: make your own meth!

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Nope, not unless you count hanging out at a party with friends and myself and another person, myself, and other people there took pharmaceutical opiates in low doses but not everyone else at this party did this or was even on drugs.

There's one in the movie the ice storm. I am very sure my friend went to one, or hosted a party like this as a teenager, but it involved taking so many benzos that she would black out for days, and she and her friends would combine benzos and opiates, or benzos, or opiates with Ritalin or dexedrine, or any of those drugs with booze.

 

[infectedmushroom]

No...pharms of abuse are hard enough to come by down these here parts...every man for himself is the way more or less

 

[dankhead88]

make it yourself. I've seen the synthesis, and it's a complete cinch. With the right accoutrements and the appropriate precursors, one could churn out a lifetime's supply of the stuff in less than a fortnight.

Yeah, yeah yeah. The precursors and lab provisions are too regulated. I've heard that before. And all it means is take one step back, then another, then another until you find a precursor's precursors' precursors that are not regulated. Sure, the procedure is now more time-consuming and intricate, but with enough patience aand diligence, any illegal or watched compound can be synthesised from legal and unwatched compounds.

I encountered a similar pessimistic "we can't do it, bro!" attitude from an assistant working with a job requiring toluene.

you also have to look at environmental factors and finances along with the amount of punishment that anyone could receive for manufacturing a strictly regulated Schedule II drug violating the controlled substance act to the point where I can can up to a decade of prison time for. I think I would rather be a consumer. Then the chemical byproducts from synthesis would be troublesome and toxic and a populated area where I live with lack of outside ventilation, One pot synthesis is too unreliable and dangerous, and I do enjoy methamphetamine, but I would hate to have that much meth. Opiates was always the much more gentle option for me. Despite the physical withdrawal symptoms, the cuts. Heroin was perfect. Small amounts would wake me up and even stimulate me. Helped at work and combines great with amphetamines, pot, benzos(too much other sedatives with opiates can be lethal). At night, I would do larger doses to feel nice and relaxed. If none of this makes sense, please excuse me, I appear to be nodding off while typing.

but to each and their own my friend. Agree to disagree

 

[Screaming_Skull]

No, this sounds retarted as fuck...but I remember when this first hit the news and they were talking about middle/hs kids getting pills fromt thier rents med cabinet and would put it in a bowl then have a party.. I'm sorry but even at the age of 12 I could see this as being retarded, but Nom De Plum's party sounds off the chain..but really must have some sharing and caring junky frineds to throw all their hydromorphone/methamphetimine into a bowl..were you being serious??? But these things do happen, I remember a trip report that some 14 year old wrote on here and it wasn't a pill party but basically involved them taking a shitload of addies I think, along with something else like an antideppresent, it was kindsa scary but anyway

 

[Nom de Plume]

you also have to look at environmental factors and finances along with the amount of punishment that anyone could receive for manufacturing a strictly regulated Schedule II drug violating the controlled substance act to the point where I can can up to a decade of prison time for. I think I would rather be a consumer. Then the chemical byproducts from synthesis would be troublesome and toxic and a populated area where I live with lack of outside ventilation, One pot synthesis is too unreliable and dangerous, and I do enjoy methamphetamine, but I would hate to have that much meth. Opiates was always the much more gentle option for me. Despite the physical withdrawal symptoms, the cuts. Heroin was perfect. Small amounts would wake me up and even stimulate me. Helped at work and combines great with amphetamines, pot, benzos(too much other sedatives with opiates can be lethal). At night, I would do larger doses to feel nice and relaxed. If none of this makes sense, please excuse me, I appear to be nodding off while typing.

but to each and their own my friend. Agree to disagree

Yeah, I hear you mate. But all of life's a wager anyway, so the objective is don't get caught. Only big-time, or absent-minded, or feeble-minded, or just plain jinxed clandestine chemists get themselves imprisoned.

It's the failures one hears about—in the papers, on the telly, etc.—whilst the unknown are more furtive, wily, and intelligent. Trust me, mate. I know more about clandestine chemistry and clandestine chemists than would be advisable to divulge.

One thing is sure: thousands of kilograms methamphetamine are bought and sold per annum. And none of it falls from clouds or passes through some extradimensional membrane to get here.

 

[Screaming_Skull]

Well, know what your saying but Meth isn't that hard to make... before they made psdeophed(sp?)harder to get people cooked it like crazy, alot of shake n' bake done by rednecks that would actually be really strong(only have had that kind once, was powder and supposedly home cooked via shake n bake). They made the psedofed harder to get, I guese they thought it would make meth harder to come by, but now it just comes from Mexico Via clear crystals...there some dumbass rumor going on around here with the meth heads that the new meth(the kind from mexico) is made underground(like they grow it underground...wtf???makes no sense) think they called it easter bunny meth, but I'm rambling...seems like these chemist should start making some damn oxycodone or more shit like that on the street...make it cheaper than pharm grade pills but I doubt thats gonna happen because it's harder to synthesize being a semi-synthetic or whatever...we have fent analouges on the street..seems like there would be some market for people making opiates that are purely synthetic(like methadone, or that strong ass one that starts with a k, then there's fent) and putting it on the street, but there's not,besides the fent, and they just put it in heroin as a cut so people drop like flies from it of course...but if there was fent on the street, with such a short half-life, seems like it would be an skeezy opiate dealers dream to sell besides heroin since the shit wears off so fast, instead of cutting it..I dunno, I'm rambling. I found a klonopin in my room, feel soo much better, gonna enjoy the anxeity relief,wanna eat now also, my appetite always goes to shit(literally I have to FORCE myself to eat the tiniest amounts and I will be starving) when I have my benzo's half the month then don't the other half..sometimes it will be 3 weeks and only a week without..anyway

 

[Nom de Plume]

Yes, I'm fully aware this is quite a lengthy comment. But I figured it would be informative and intriguing to some readers.

Well, know what your saying but Meth isn't that hard to make... before they made psdeophed(sp?)harder to get people cooked it like crazy, alot of shake n' bake done by rednecks that would actually be really strong(only have had that kind once, was powder and supposedly home cooked via shake n bake).

Yeah, I know. The synthesis of methamphetamine is practically duck soup for even the dullest of dullards.

But while I'd rank methamphetamine's synthesis fairly low on a scale of difficulty involved and even lower on a scale of expertise required, it is by no means the easiest stimulant to make.

Due to the size and diversity of this class of drugs (stimulants, or specifically, drugs within the N06 subgroup of the ATC), this class contains numerous drugs with very easy and simple syntheses.

I can think of over 100 stimulants that can be made with around the same degree of difficulty as methamphetamine, and dozens which are easier to make than meth. Moreover, many of these drugs are not only less difficult to make, but are more powerful and/or longer lasting the meth.

They made the psedofed [sic] harder to get, I guese they thought it would make meth harder to come by, but now it just comes from Mexico Via clear crystals...there some dumbass rumor going on around here with the meth heads that the new meth(the kind from mexico) is made underground(like they grow it underground...wtf???makes no sense) think they called it easter bunny meth, but I'm rambling...

There is truth in the rumours. Allow me to elaborate.

According to DEA and UNODC data, there has been about a 10-year trend toward oligopoly in the illicit manufacture of methamphetamine whilst the kilograms seized per annum remains practically unchanged, as does the drug's availability.

In other words, there's a trend toward fewer and larger-scale methamphetamine manufacturers. Whereas during the outset of what media calls the "meth epidemic" we saw the supply of meth being controlled by tens of thousands of low-level producers making no more than a kilogram at a time and making profits of less than $100,000 annually, we are now witnessing significantly fewer operations but with the capacities to churn out hundreds of kilograms and bring in millions of dollars in profits.

So, how is any of this relevant? Well, the sheer size of these mega-operations, or cartels, obviously necessitate laboratories commensurate in size to their production. You can make a kilogram in a mobile home, but to make a ton you need a manor.

A standard-sized bathroom provides sufficient space for a small scale laboratory. For the large-scale labs, only a factory will suffice.

But something that big...?! It's difficult enough to keep a trailer from attracting undue attention, just imagine the incredible difficulty it would take to conceal a building hundreds of times larger in size.

So the motive for an underground or subterranean clandestine meth lab is perfectly easy to determine.

But where is the evidence? Well, authorities have hitherto made several discoveries of underground laboratories—labs set up within large structures which were built and concealed underground.

It's not too complicated, either. It's only a matter of building the structure, digging a hole, placing the structure in to the hole, fortifying it, and then covering it back up (and digging a tunnel entrance or putting a surface-level building with an entryway (via stairs, ladders, etc.) over top of it).

(q.v.:
I.) Underground drug lab found in Mexico;
II.) Mexico Finds Giant Underground Drug Lab;
III.) Mexican Troops Find Underground Meth Lab
IV.) Biggest CaribbeanDrug Lab Busted In Dominican Republic)

seems like these chemist should start making some damn oxycodone or more shit like that on the street...make it cheaper than pharm grade pills but I doubt thats gonna happen because it's harder to synthesize being a semi-synthetic or whatever...

It doesn't really matter if the drug is semi-synthetic or complicated to synthesize. The reasons oxycodone is not a drug that interests clandestine chemists are:
A.) the demand and potential profit do not outweigh the labor and potential punishment.
B.) it is easier to illegally obtain pharmaceutical oxycodone than it is to make it.
C.) Heroin is more profitable, more accessible, less cumbersome or arduous to acquire, more potent, and more marketable than counterfeit oxycodone. Moreover, there's a seemingly incalculable amount of heroin available on the black market and a dealer's supply is only limited by his wherewithal and contacts.

we have fent analouges on the street..seems like there would be some market for people making opiates that are purely synthetic(like methadone, or that strong ass one that starts with a k, then there's fent) and putting it on the street, but there's not,besides the fent, and they just put it in heroin as a cut so people drop like flies from it of course...but if there was fent on the street, with such a short half-life, seems like it would be an skeezy opiate dealers dream to sell besides heroin since the shit wears off so fast, instead of cutting it.

Okay, several points:
1.) Fentanyl is made by clandestine chemists because it is easier to synthesize than to obtain by forged, purchased, stolen, or diverted prescriptions, unlike oxycodone.
2.) the effects of fentanyl are noticeably different from the effects of oxycodone or heroin, say, and thus it appeals to a different market and consumer base.
3.) fentanyl is a much more potent opioidergic than heroin, and is therefore an enticing cutting agent for heroin because, while obviously different from the effects of heroin, it can still give low quality heroin a meretriciously higher quality from the consumer's perspective.
4.) the strong ass drug that's spelled with a 'k' you're talking about might be ketobemidone. In which case, trust me when I say I'm absolutely certain it's sold on the black market.

I dunno, I'm rambling. I found a klonopin in my room, feel soo much better, gonna enjoy the anxeity relief,wanna eat now also, my appetite always goes to shit(literally I have to FORCE myself to eat the tiniest amounts and I will be starving) when I have my benzo's half the month then don't the other half..sometimes it will be 3 weeks and only a week without..anyway

Hehe. Enjoy, man. There's nothing better than a benzo (well, except for a barbiturate or quinazolinone or GHBergic or...).