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Detox Anyone else going thru opiate(pharma/possibly fent)withdrawls?

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westbank23

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Well I'm coming up on being 2 weeks clean after going Cold turkey..it sucks but things are looking bright and I'm trying to encourage other friends to get clean(which is inturn helping me stay clean)..
Only comfort medicine was immoudium AD and some leg cream for my Restless legs.that's prescribed to my diabetic mother.
I've done this before (3rd time) I would get clean for 6-8 months and then go right back at it for a 2-3 year Pharma binge..I think this is the last time but I've come to terms that I am infact and addict..
I just can't do it no more because 1. ITS to damn expensive and 2.which should really be number 1,everything has fetnayl in it and I'm scared..8 friends/fellow users has passed away these pass 2 years due ODing..1 of them just 2 days ago..

My tolerance was anywhere from 210mg roxy and 1-2mg xanax(footballs) a day..

Main symptoms I'm suffering from now is insomnia, being very weak, Diarrhea,and not being able to pleasure my wife for more than 2 minutes off and on.its like as soon as we cuddle,I've finished (if u know what I mean) kind of embarrassing..

Good thing is that I don't have anxiety or depression which I guess is making this WD easy..

I really want to quit for good this time,I remember how life was so good will being sober.
 
westbank23 said:
Well I'm coming up on being 2 weeks clean after going Cold turkey..it sucks but things are looking bright and I'm trying to encourage other friends to get clean(which is inturn helping me stay clean)..
Only comfort medicine was immoudium AD and some leg cream for my Restless legs.that's prescribed to my diabetic mother.
I've done this before (3rd time) I would get clean for 6-8 months and then go right back at it for a 2-3 year Pharma binge..I think this is the last time but I've come to terms that I am infact and addict..
I just can't do it no more because 1. ITS to damn expensive and 2.which should really be number 1,everything has fetnayl in it and I'm scared..8 friends/fellow users has passed away these pass 2 years due ODing..1 of them just 2 days ago..

My tolerance was anywhere from 210mg roxy and 1-2mg xanax(footballs) a day..

Main symptoms I'm suffering from now is insomnia, being very weak, Diarrhea,and not being able to pleasure my wife for more than 2 minutes off and on.its like as soon as we cuddle,I've finished (if u know what I mean) kind of embarrassing..

Good thing is that I don't have anxiety or depression which I guess is making this WD easy..

I really want to quit for good this time,I remember how life was so good will being sober.
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Have you ever tried kratom? It could probably help you stay off of fent

I’ve been incoming off a buperenorphine binge, that was 5 days ago, but I’m still taking kratom and other drugs, I use opiates occasionally, then when I start getting dependent I take a week off.

Ya I know what you mean about the premature ejaculation, you could go down on her or finger her.
 
Thanks all,when I made this post a couple of days ago I was still feeling like crap..got a good 6 hours of sleep last night and now I'm feeling good..Kratom was recommended but there's so many different brands at the local smoke shop that I decide to just stay away..I needed something for sleep but seems like my insomnia is going away slowly
 
Kratom might bring back acute withdrawal though - it's only partially cross tolerant though and sparingly using it can help immensly but jury's still out whether I'm now just hooked on the next opioid. I'm withdrawing from morphine, it's not as expected, I expected immense anxiety and loneliness like on one occasion of precipitated withdrawal by naloxone but it's indeed like a flu, just general malaise and it just won't get better.. there's stuff to aid but it all seems to prolong withdrawal, I thought to get away with because of dissociatives (NMDA antagonists) modulating opioid receptors but now I'll have one month waiting time at least until the RC goodies arrive....

Oh, all these Kratom brands are same. Just select the cheapest one I'd say. They mix up the leaves and label as red, yellow, green, white at will. And if possible go for a no-name one, all these head shop brands are ridiculously overpriced. Look online.
 
I am unfortunately (Heroin though, not pharmaceutical opioids) - I had two weeks clean time and used for 4 days due to really intense and sustained depression, so that was enough to kick off withdrawals again. All I can hope for is that the two weeks of sobriety will stand to me and that the remainder of the physical withdrawals this time wont last long. I'm hoping to see them fade by Sunday/Monday or some day before this day next week. I feel that's realistic.
 
endlessnameless said:
I am unfortunately (Heroin though, not pharmaceutical opioids) - I had two weeks clean time and used for 4 days due to really intense and sustained depression, so that was enough to kick off withdrawals again. All I can hope for is that the two weeks of sobriety will stand to me and that the remainder of the physical withdrawals this time wont last long. I'm hoping to see them fade by Sunday/Monday or some day before this day next week. I feel that's realistic.
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How's it going endlessnameless?..have you been making any progress?
 
3 weeks and a few days clean..I've also cut back on cigarettes 🚬 went from a 30 ciggs a day to 10 ciggs a day..I've been getting major headaches but I feel like it's because of the nicotine which is why I cut back. Everytime I smoke a New Port cigarette,I get a major headache.tylonal doesn't help much neither.
I still am suffering a bit with insomnia,Diarrhea,no energy..restless leg 🦵 is almost going away,day by day it gets better..
I don't feel the desire to go back,in order to heal,you have to suffer.
 
westbank23 said:
3 weeks and a few days clean..I've also cut back on cigarettes 🚬 went from a 30 ciggs a day to 10 ciggs a day..I've been getting major headaches but I feel like it's because of the nicotine which is why I cut back. Everytime I smoke a New Port cigarette,I get a major headache.tylonal doesn't help much neither.
I still am suffering a bit with insomnia,Diarrhea,no energy..restless leg 🦵 is almost going away,day by day it gets better..
I don't feel the desire to go back,in order to heal,you have to suffer.
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Good on you man. You're sticking it out and making progress. Congrats on the cigarette one too. Baby steps.

Do you take any comfort meds or are you just toughing it out?
 
well done man. what sort of help are you getting for the psychological side?

when we stop using drugs all the issues that first drove us to drugs come bubbling back up. and that's the hard part. are you getting therapy? seeing your local drugs services? NA/SMART? meditation? good diet/exercise? its all mega important for you to be able to get into long term recovery.
 
chinup said:
well done man. what sort of help are you getting for the psychological side?

when we stop using drugs all the issues that first drove us to drugs come bubbling back up. and that's the hard part. are you getting therapy? seeing your local drugs services? NA/SMART? meditation? good diet/exercise? its all mega important for you to be able to get into long term recovery.
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Honestly I'm not getting no help..maybe I should but I don't feel like I have any psychological issues..I can't recall ever having any real trauma..I had a great childhood,plenty of friends that I still have till this day and I could say I had a great adult life,job married,kids etc..
But I know I'm an addict because this is like the 3rd-4th time I got clean.usually I'll have about a year or 2 clean and then go back using drugs for another year or 2..

Everytime EVERYTIME I go back on Opeites,it's because I can get them for so cheap..but now days I don't think I'll be able to score for cheap,even the pressed stuff is not cheap and I don't even take them unless my Ex dealers slipped them in without me knowing..
I have to stay clean this time..even tho I still have some symptoms,life is good and everything looks just so beautiful..

Like the other day I got off work early and I was pretty upset because I knew I was going to miss the Sunset.so I hung around and waited untill I can see the sunset 🌇..this is something I would have never done if I was still getting high..I would have went straight home and snorted a couple of 30s...
Also music has been helping out alot.
 
westbank23 said:
Honestly I'm not getting no help..maybe I should but I don't feel like I have any psychological issues..I can't recall ever having any real trauma..I had a great childhood,plenty of friends that I still have till this day and I could say I had a great adult life,job married,kids etc..
But I know I'm an addict because this is like the 3rd-4th time I got clean.usually I'll have about a year or 2 clean and then go back using drugs for another year or 2..

Everytime EVERYTIME I go back on Opeites,it's because I can get them for so cheap..but now days I don't think I'll be able to score for cheap,even the pressed stuff is not cheap and I don't even take them unless my Ex dealers slipped them in without me knowing..
I have to stay clean this time..even tho I still have some symptoms,life is good and everything looks just so beautiful..

Like the other day I got off work early and I was pretty upset because I knew I was going to miss the Sunset.so I hung around and waited untill I can see the sunset 🌇..this is something I would have never done if I was still getting high..I would have went straight home and snorted a couple of 30s...
Also music has been helping out alot.
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What a great post. Wonderful attitude. Rock on, man.
 
plumbus-nine said:
Oh, all these Kratom brands are same. Just select the cheapest one I'd say. They mix up the leaves and label as red, yellow, green, white at will. And if possible go for a no-name one, all these head shop brands are ridiculously overpriced. Look online.
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I don’t think that’s true man. There is definitely a difference between red, white and green vein.

White is the most energetic, and reds are the most sedating.

There are brands that care about their reputation, and I’m sure they sort their stuff out properly, not just randomly mix and throw it into a bag. Plus you get what you pay for, and when it comes to kratom you want the best experience so it’s better to go with a well renowned brand as opposed to something cheap.
 
LaCuNa said:
I don’t think that’s true man. There is definitely a difference between red, white and green vein.

White is the most energetic, and reds are the most sedating.

There are brands that care about their reputation, and I’m sure they sort their stuff out properly, not just randomly mix and throw it into a bag. Plus you get what you pay for, and when it comes to kratom you want the best experience so it’s better to go with a well renowned brand as opposed to something cheap.
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Agreed
 
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