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Alcohol Any hints how to get alcohol tolerance down?

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Elinisti

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I've got a drinking problem. I need ridiculous amounts of alcohol to get me drunk. Half a liter of vodka is a good start. I drink heavily about once or twice a week. Benzos help but I don't want to eat them because they skyrocket my tolerance (when used with alcohol).

Is there any substance or activities that might help me? I mean something to reset the GABA (and whatever) receptors. Like what MXE, DXM etc. does for various tolerances. One thing that helps a lot is to never to drink unless the intention is to get drunk. Drinking one beer with food or tasting wine now and then during the week makes getting drunk even more difficult.
 
^...yeah

GABAergic tolerance diminishes very slowly; the way to reduce it is to take breaks, but in your case that may cause excitotoxicity (depending on exactly just how much you drink, so I don't recommend simply stopping). See a doc.
 
Stop drinking.

That's really the only way to reduce tolerance for any substance.. take breaks in consuming it. You can't ever expect your tolerance to decrease if you are consuming anything everyday. It will only ever rise with that consistent pattern of use.

You are consuming a lot of alcohol, to which the long term health effects are great. Slowing down or taking a break is going to be beneficial to you in many ways..
 
Alcohol is very addictive and harmful, if you dont get sober you might fuck up everything for a while
I reccomend smoking weed while drinking, as it enhances alcohol quite a LOT so you'd drink far less
 
Not to pile on, but I think the two specific strategies you identified--1)only drink to get hammered, and 2)add a new substance so that alcohol affects you more --are both dangerous. A dear friend of mine drank everyday, and we all laughed and joked around about how much of an alcoholic he was, and then he died at 35.
 
The fact that the only association you have with alcohol is "getting drunk" is going to make tapering problematic. A lot of people can have a few drinks to relax, and call it quits quite easily. Part of having a problem is not being able to resist. I know from experience, it can be hard. Only you know truly how bad it is...the fact it's a half liter a couple times a week leads me to think you might be ok if you simply stop. People can get a lot worse than that, but it's never ever pretty.
 
Flumazenil theoretically resets your GABA. Don't know much about it, but a buddy of mine had it done after a horrible benzo addiction and it completly cured him of his withdrawal. Would be foolish to do just so you can get drunk offa a few beers again though.
 
bdomihizayka said:
Flumazenil theoretically resets your GABA. Don't know much about it, but a buddy of mine had it done after a horrible benzo addiction and it completly cured him of his withdrawal. Would be foolish to do just so you can get drunk offa a few beers again though.
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Thank you. This is exactly something I hoped to hear about.

I was trying to make a pun in the first post, but I meant with my drinking problem that I need to drink way more than anyone else to get drunk. I love getting drunk once in a while but I need too much alcohol to get hammered so it doesn't feel safe (and is bloody expensive). I am not addicted to alcohol or haven't ever had withdrawals. First time I ever drank (was around twelve years old) I needed 8 bottles of beer to get drunk.
 
Stop drinking...it's a shit-drug anyhow...drinking organic solvents is little better than sniffing chloroform...it's just a shit drug to use heavily. It can become really tough getting out from under alcohol addiction.
 
Derschieber said:
Stop drinking...it's a shit-drug anyhow...drinking organic solvents is little better than sniffing chloroform...it's just a shit drug to use heavily. It can become really tough getting out from under alcohol addiction.
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One man's garbage is other man's treasure. I rather enjoy sniffing ether. Don't know about chloroform but doesn't that dissolve brain cells?

I realized that I don't have have high tolerance to GBL or GHB. Actually it is quite low. Also benzos work normally. So I guess my problem isn't in GABA receptors. Maybe the problem is how my body breaks down or converts or absorbs alcohol. Is there some liver enzyme that breaks alcohol up?
 
Go to a doctor and have him prescribe you anabuse. You can use it to slow your habit on days you don't wanna drink you should be able to take one and I you drink it should make you sick. I've heard it can make you super sick but it never did me it definitely made me not wanna drink after the first time I drank on it though.
 
Hi Elinisti,

My experience compels me to suggest you try kratom as a substitute for alcohol for a time sufficient to allow your alcohol tolerance to diminish.
My drinking was a problem for a long time. These days my alcohol tolerance is way down. Now, my kratom tolerance is arguably cause for concern.
Given the choice between alcohol dependency and kratom dependency, in my experience kratom has proven the lesser evil by far. I guess we will just
have to wait and see. Good luck to you.
 
I was reading up on naltrexone earlier today (not to be confused with naloxone), and it seems that it has been successful in limiting the amount of alcohol a person drinks when binging. It apparently has some properties that makes it viable as a drug used primarily in the management of alcohol dependence (as well as opioid dependence to a lesser degree, ironically enough). I don't know what the success rates are, but seems to have some beneficial effects in terms of limiting alcohol intake (while not completely eliminating it as with Disulfiram a.k.a. Antabuse/Antabus).
 
I would try to see if you can sub out kratom and or weed on occasion for the alcohol. I everyday drink everyday and I cant get drunk. I'm tolerant to the stimulant effects of alcohol and it just sedates me at this point. So i just get really tired and go to bed. No fun really. I've been using kratom and smoking on occasions when I would have been drinking and my tolerance is starting to drop.
 
I am not sure about the cross GABA tolerance. I can consume lots of alcohol and be fine, but one .5mg xanax has me passed out in an hour. They both DO work on GABA though, so this is very interesting.

Benzos are mainly GABA A subtypes..... alcohol is largely unknown, but thought to work on GABA B.

Look it up...too lazy to source :-P
 
Alcoholism is one of the worst and rapidly degenerative diseases I've seen, please seek medical attention for help with this issue. This isn't an emergency situation so your thread isn't going to be closed obviously, but I wanted to express how strongly I felt that you work with professionals on this, just be sure that your voice is heard.

There are multiple medication options/routes you can take, many of them are prescribed off-label as they are not indicated for the treatment of alcoholism.

Here are a few examples off the top of my head...:

Ultra Low Dose Naltrexone
Diazepam (short term, usually a high dose)
Ondansetron (low dose) has some interesting studies done on it linking it to being effective in some patients for reducing certain cravings, particularly alcohol I guess, although IDK how a Serotonin HT-3 Antagonist would do anything with GABAergic receptors, which is usually the target site we're trying to saturate when it comes to alcoholism and benzodiazepine and GBL/GHB withdrawals.


Talk to a doctor about help quitting alcohol, I'm sure they'd be much happier to help you prescribe some meds and supervise your recovery than putting your name on the very bottom of the list of patients waiting for organ transplants.
 
well geting shit faced once or twice a week is not necessarily alcoholism. Most people just grow out of that phase, go try GHB or GBL and quit drinking alcohol is my recommendation for fun and harm reduction. Or replace your alcohol use with psychedelic use. It's obviously best just to not get fucked up at all on the weekends or whatever but that is just not going to happen for many people.

as for lowering alcohol tolerance... time is the only thing, some people, like myself just have an insane natural tolerance to alcohol though. Really alcohol is a shitty drug to use for fun, it causes cancer, fucks your memory, big hangovers... i can't understand why alcohol is preferred over any drug. Most recreational drugs are not even close to as harmful or rough on the body.
 
stop drinking dude, its such a shitty drug anyways. the high sucks, the hangover is worse. i hate it. so glad i quit.

nowadays id rather go to the gym at 11pm then go out to the bars...
 
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