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Anxiety problem... looking for some insight

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Ive had anxiety ever since I was a child.. I used to have terrible TERRIBLE panic attacks as a child.. and I remember I would panic over stupid thoughts, that would eventually turn darker and darker (ie: used to think my parents died in a car crash when they would come home late)

sounds crazy.. I know.. It kind of is..

As I got older I grew out of those stupid panic attacks for no reason, but... The panic attacks still do occur over more "normal" things to this day.. I tend to get anxious/very stressed for tests of any sort.. or say job interviews.. or anything I know I can fail in. Sometimes (okay maybe more then just sometimes, a lot more...) I get so nervous/anxious/stressed I wont sleep for nights and because of the no sleep, Ill become even more of a nervous wreck... Pretty unhealthy cycle...

Anyways, A few weeks ago I tried a klonopin in hope for recreational high... instead, the 2mg didnt do aynthing but... make me feel normal.. relaxed..

Ever since I tried that, I kinda wondered if maybe a benzo is right for me..
But is it a huge process to aquire a precription for benzos? (xanax,vicodin, klonopin... whatever one)

I dont want to deal with therapists ect because I simply dont have the money/time for it!
 
If you are asking for opinions on whether or not a benzo is right for you, I would argue against using them. They will make your path to an anxiety free life much longer. Their fix is temporary honestly. It doesn't fix the problem, only covers it.

If you really want to try a benzo, they are pretty easy to get prescriptions for. You just need to get the right doctor. Some are extremely hesitant to Rx and some will treat them like miracle pills. You would have to meet with them for an appointment or two and talk about what is wrong, and all the details. And no, you won't be able to get a benzo legally without going to a doctor (therapist, whatever).
 
the thing with benzos though is that he can go on them for a few weeks and have sessions with a therapist to try and fix his problems which he would be too helpless to do without the crutch, and it takes more than a month to get a dependency
 
ya but the rebound would be shit. Also he doesn't want to see a psychiatrist so it looks like he will be paying out the bum to an illegal source if it means that much.
 
you guys are on track exactly with what im dealing with.. I dont want to see a psychiatrist simply because I have good friends/family that act as a therapist to me anwyas.. I also simply cant afford the money/time to go see one (I run a landscaping company and im 20 years old, also about to go back to school)

I just wont have time to deal with things like therapists/psychiatrists without it effecting my job and time I already feel isnt enough in my day

They never worked for me either.. I used my Guidance councellor / attended Drug Councelling when I was in highschool and all they did was waste my time and filled my head with such non sense

Another question is, I dont want to be on a "use daily" type benzo like klonopin which is long lasting.. Id rather want a short acting type buzz that I would take when I feel some anxiety coming on.. because my anxiety only comes at certain times in my life.. So I wouldnt wanna be using the drug everyday for no reason..

Xanax I believe is short acting if im not mistaken..

SO basically what im asking is.. Would It be possible to aquire Xanax without them pushing other drugs on me that I just simply wont use just knowing the effects (ie: Clonazapam aka Klonopin) .. I dont want to go try and get some helpfull medication and just find out they are going to try and push some other meds on me I simply arent interested in using.

(I dont want to appear like some drug addicted teenager just trying to get a certain prescription.. which is probably what im gonna look like despite what I do..

also maybe klonopin is right for me! , just using an example.. i really dont know what benzo is best obviously for my situation)
 
No matter how uncomfortable the prospect of it is, you are gonna need to have a thorough mental examination by a trained professional in order to receive an Rx for any psychotropic substance, bottom line. Enjoy throwing money away otherwise.
 
But is it a huge process to aquire a precription for benzos? (xanax,vicodin, klonopin... whatever one)
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And one little tip, asking for a specificate med (Xanax in your case) is the best way to have it refused to you.
 
You sound exactly like me. I suffered from anxiety so, so badly for years. I was depressed as a child - diagnosed with Autism/Asperger's. I remember as a child wondering why all the kids were playing with one another and not frightened and why I seemed different to them

Then I found drugs at age 12 which has been both a detrimental and incredibly journey.

Anyway, you didnt ask about my life story so here is what i'm getting at:

Drugs are a temporary solution to cover symptoms, and not treat the root cause.
Kratom is the best anti-anxiety thing i've ever taken and will continue to take for a long time to come. It has fuck all side-effects, has health benefits, is simply the leaf of a tree that grows in SE Asia, alleviates anxiety amazingly well and has none of the horrible side effects of Benzo's. I'd much rather be addictd to Kratom than Valium. It makes me enthusiastic aswell, instead of just non-descript like a benzo.

Try meditating, try working out as hitting weights does wonders for your confidence aswell. Cold showers, again, are also AMAZING for getting rid of anxiety. Like, I could actually believe just how effective having a freezing cold shower at least once a day was for my anxiety - try it out.
 
We sound like twins partna. I got bad anxiety.
Never tried K-pins but xanax really dont do shit for me except make me tired..even with weed i dont feel tha bars.
All my doc waants to prescribe is fuckin SSRIS ABreviation:Stupid Shit Inya System cus they fuckin suck.
When i get better insurance im going to a quack to get some REAL Pills like some Opium

P.S. MY doc wont even prescribe benzos...that worthless peice of shit. THe ones i had were stolen..Cheers to the medical system for giving me the care i need right?
Oh and im thinking about KRATOM to help me quit smoking weed for a week or 2. Annyone tried it? Was it good?
 
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No, don't use benzos.... It will make your anxiety just worse long term speaking... Because eventually you will have to come off those benzos, that's when bigger problems arise...

Just google "benzo addiction stories" or whatever... and then think again about benzos.
 
I have the same problem as you. Panic attacks and just being way too worried about everything. It basically runs your life sometimes.

So I will get worked up about something that I really don't need to get worked up over. Like, I dunno, doing badly on a test? Embarrassing myself in front of a random person? Anything. Smoking weed works like a charm. A few puffs and it relaxes me which takes away the anxiety.

I find that mdma gets rid of it all too.

My doctor prescribed me some antidepressant. I didn't take it though. I have heard way too many horror stories about antidepressants. I am not depressed, I'm anxious!

My friend's sister is a doctor (although she doesn't have her own practice right now) and she suggested this to me:

1) Anxiety: get GABA from the store (prob even walmart has it). It works very well for anxiety since it's a substrate for neurotransmitter production in the brain (neurotransmitter levels can be messed up with anxiety and depression). Dose: 750 mg before bed.

2) Panic attacks: get Rhodiola herb (you will have to get this at a health food store or I can get it). This is great for panic attacks and also helps with feeling stressed andinsomnia, as well. Dose: 200 mg twice daily (400 mgs total). Don't take before bedtime.
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I have not tried this yet but I think I will get those and try them out.

I did want the benzos too because I just feel like they would help when I have panic attacks. I have panic attacks once every week or two and it's just plain annoying. Whoever I'm with just thinks I'm a freak. And there is usually no reasonable explanation for it either. Like one time, I was with my boyfriend, his best friend, and her boyfriend. I knew the other couple pretty well too so it wasn't a big deal. All of a sudden, I freaked out and had to leave. I just ran out the door and my bf was like wtf (understandably so). I still don't know what it was.

Anyway, let me know if you figure out something that really works for you too :)
 
could be psychological, maybe there is some repressed life traumas lingering

alternatively it could just be physical energy that you arent using up - maybe it is time to go for a run (plus this works psychologically too in that you literally/metaphorically "running from your fears")
 
benzo's can be a bitch. You have to constantly take them or slowly be weaved off them after a while. If you suddenly stop taking them you can get some real bad withdrawal symptoms and end up in the hospital.

If you are prescribed to them my advice is just be careful. Make sure you have enough to last you until your next prescription.
 
I have an rx for 0.25mg xanax. Apparently that's a low dose. On the bottle it says "every 4 hours" but I take it maybe 2x a month if that. Just the past 2 months months I was using it more - I moved out to my own place - first time living alone - and had a really hard time with it. I'm glad to not be taking them now. Not that I feel any side effects. I just seem to have an aversion to pills.

For the most part I try to practice mindfulness meditations and just being mindful in general and it really helps. For example when I'm driving a car and start freaking out and can't find the stupid pills in my black hole of a purse. Just paying attention to what I'm DOING right at this very moment (like driving, and listening to music) helps pull me away from the thoughts that go in circles in my head that try to bring me down.
Breathing and focusing on my breath is good. I don't go for deep breaths, or do like three in three out or any pattern like that. I just pay attention to my breathing. How the air feels in going in. Going out. Feeling every bit of my breath.
It's a good distraction and really, it helps.

Helped me today in fact! Try to catch the thoughts when they start coming, it's easier that way than when your mind is racing and you're deep in the pit. Or, I tend to feel physical symptoms first (nausea, dizziness, choking feeling, can't breathe, etc) so as soon as I notice it I start focusing on my breathing.

Took me 5 minutes during lunch at work and I didn't have to take any pills. :D :D :D Pretty proud of myself

Edited to add that the first time I had bad anxiety I was around 6 yrs and it's been with me ever since.
 
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benzo's *seem* like they could be useful here for the "couple weeks of benzo therapy to get at issues w/ your guard down". Even still, they'd need to be removed from your regimen carefully.
Some things to keep in mind- Your dr./psych won't just toss you benzo's, typical routine would be GP for referral to psychiatrist, see psychiatrist, psychiatrist decides upon benzo's. Also, as others have said, if you ask for xanax you're not getting xanax, sucks but that's how it generally works.
Also, beware that US-prescribing practices for benzos are completely fucked. The rule here is to ignore the fact that benzo's are not meant, generally speaking, as anything more than short-term drugs. For some reason, we think long-term xanax therapy is helpful...
 
Depending on your location it can be pretty hard to get benzos, but in all my anxiety experience, benzos are all that help. I am lucky to see a psychiatrist for free from the county, he gives me 10 Ativan per month for panic attacks, but it's not high enough dose for me... I have a medical doc who refills my Klonopin regularly but I have no insurance so I have to pay to see him. Call docs and just ask if they could give you a script for a benzo... some docs might say no, but others will say yes. I don't think plain therapy helps panic attacks... opinion on that varies, but that's my experience. Just be careful with Xanax because it DOES work the best but it's the WORST withdrawal ever, and I won't use that again.
 
this may sound strange but im a firm believer that dieting and exercising properly can fix every mental issue. with time of course.
many people want a quick fix, but they rly dont ever work and if u stopped taking it, you would return to your thought process.

just set realistic goals in dieting and exercising so you can feel a sense of accomplishment when you meet them.
youll also be getting the proper nutrients your brain was evolved to function off of (not this cheap bullshit youre being fed)
avoid microwaving food, it kills nutrients.
try to soak up at least some sunscreen, vitamin d is also a hormone and almost everyone in america is completely deprived of it.
eventually you will get into a routine and it will come easily and naturally.

most drs wont tell you this b/c they are specialized in medicine and chemistry, not nutrition.
id try this before shelling out all your money for something that will take equally long or cause an addiction.

i wish more people would try this before diving into meds.
worked for me and my sister.
 
I don't think benzos are an answer. They are the most addictive drug I've ever experienced. The effect lessens over time. People start on .5mg of kpin and can easily end up on 8mg a day. It will make your anxiety worse after a little while. Benzos lower your intitial anxiety threshold. Please do try to work this out yourself with mental exercises, or with a therapist if you can find one worth a shit or look for internet help, deep breathing, and yoga.
 
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You sound exactly like me. I suffered from anxiety so, so badly for years. I was depressed as a child - diagnosed with Autism/Asperger's. I remember as a child wondering why all the kids were playing with one another and not frightened and why I seemed different to them

Then I found drugs at age 12 which has been both a detrimental and incredibly journey.

Anyway, you didnt ask about my life story so here is what i'm getting at:

Drugs are a temporary solution to cover symptoms, and not treat the root cause.
Kratom is the best anti-anxiety thing i've ever taken and will continue to take for a long time to come. It has fuck all side-effects, has health benefits, is simply the leaf of a tree that grows in SE Asia, alleviates anxiety amazingly well and has none of the horrible side effects of Benzo's. I'd much rather be addictd to Kratom than Valium. It makes me enthusiastic aswell, instead of just non-descript like a benzo.

Try meditating, try working out as hitting weights does wonders for your confidence aswell. Cold showers, again, are also AMAZING for getting rid of anxiety. Like, I could actually believe just how effective having a freezing cold shower at least once a day was for my anxiety - try it out.
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Agree 100% on all, especially the kratom. But the kratom should be kept to lower doses ie 1 to 2 grams ime, it does have some addiction potential, but much less than any other opiate or benzo. Also if u are going for a benzo, which can be useful for certain situations, I suggest ativan (lorazepam). It has less poterntial for addiction and less euphoria than other benzos, but still works very well for anxiety :) peace
 
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