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Bupe Another loperamide thread. For w/d.. Snort or swallow copious amounts??

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I apologize in advance for making this thread, as I know there are many like it. However after reading a majority of them I still have a few questions since they all have different "factual information" contained in them.

So im going through Opiate W/D AGAIN, and these seem to be the worst I have had in a while.
What is the best way to combat withdrawals with such a little amount. Does snorting it allow any to cross the bbb?? I would snort it without a CWE because I do not want to do that while staying with my family. Would doses of 6-8 mg help AT ALL? I have 24 2 mg Loperamide tablets.. I am broke at the moment and have no hopes in receiving anymore... I cannot get any cimetidine or tagment and grapefruit juice is out of the question as well.

Background info:

I went from 1g Tar a day, to 2mg suboxone a day and have been on suboxone for the past 3 months. I was able to make my last 4 pills last a little longer by tapering with the last 4 mg....

I have had access to some Oxycodone... 5mg/325 and have successfully used 10mg Oc to fully relieve withdrawal symptoms (actually I felt better than normal/slight high). However for me oxycodone effects last about 30 minutes to an hour and I Will be back in withdrawals in about 6 hours.
 
It does not cross the BBB whatever the route!

In fact it will give you no psychoactive effects whatsoever! I've taken (recently) doses of 6mg during opium T withdrawal to stop the horrid diarrhea, actually i wound up taking 2mg later on so 8 mg.

I have read that loperamide can help with other aspects of withdrawal that are psysical.

So, in summary; Snort? fuck no. Swallow copious amounts? fuck yes
 
doppelganga196 said:
It does not cross the BBB whatever the route!

In fact it will give you no psychoactive effects whatsoever! I've taken (recently) doses of 6mg during opium T withdrawal to stop the horrid diarrhea, actually i wound up taking 2mg later on so 8 mg.

I have read that loperamide can help with other aspects of withdrawal that are psysical.

So, in summary; Snort? fuck no. Swallow copious amounts? fuck yes
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How can it help with other aspects of withdrawal if it doesn't cross the bbb?
All euphoria is felt from opiate receptors in the brain being activated and making your body feel good, not opiate receptors right on your hand or arm nerves.

I'm really using this to help with withdrawal tho, not to get high. How much is the recommended dose to take to help w/d? 8mg-20mg?
 
It relieves the withdrawl by affecting opiate receptors not in your brain. you have opiate receptors all around your body. I know that is realy simplistic someone can prolly make that more scientific. oh and you need heroic doses like 20-30mg to really help anything except diahriea
 
Blisss, i would still appreciate some answers to this question because I plan on using loperamide to combat withdrawals, now later than planned. I just had to share that I went carpet surfing (any crack users should recognize this term) in my car upon remembering I once dropped a whole bunch of suboxones months ago. When I collected them one was missing, so i counted it as a loss probably dropped outside the car..... But :D I found it a whole 8mg =D I really am in heaven. I can be w/d free for another 8 days or so with this baby. Maybe someone will share my joy.

How long until I can dose the sub? I'm not used to taking them after oxy... like I said If I'm in w/d and I take an oxy it only lasts 6 hours. Can I take the sub tonight without forcing myself into precipitated withdrawal?
 
it is slightly CNS active

It affects the parasynthetic nervous system; if it didn't it wouldn't work for diarrhea. w/d doesn't just effect one's CNS and one's PSNS (parasynthetic nervous system) can cause plenty of discomfort. I never found the stuff helpful for w/d but I had a really large habit when I was using and I wasn't taking grams of it. Actually I think it did help a bit, IDK.

Loperamide actually does cross the BBB in very small amounts I just read that while writing this. In fact there are cases of it causing psychical dependence that ,in one case I saw, was "relieved" by the subject taking methadone.

So it is CNS active technically but what I said about the PSNS is true as well and the effects loperamide has on the body's other systems must be considered. Some of these side effects may not take place through the CNS but could still decrease discomfort.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system


tablehead said:
How can it help with other aspects of withdrawal if it doesn't cross the bbb?
All euphoria is felt from opiate receptors in the brain being activated and making your body feel good, not opiate receptors right on your hand or arm nerves.

I'm really using this to help with withdrawal tho, not to get high. How much is the recommended dose to take to help w/d? 8mg-20mg?
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All I know is, I took 32mg today and I have a very noticeable 'body high' and feel much better than I did before taking them. I would have been sick all day.
 
prhighmalrage said:
All I know is, I took 32mg today and I have a very noticeable 'body high' and feel much better than I did before taking them. I would have been sick all day.
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Did you use any potentiating agent like grapefruit juice?

I laugh when people say "If your experiencing any high or w/d relief from loperamide you should see a doctor cause you MUST have an auto immune system disorder."
 
I took I think 20mg and couldn't shit for 2 days. Didn't use it after that.
 
RE: (bupe) Another loperamide thread. For w/d.. Snort or swallow copious amounts??

SWIM has tried extracting and insufflating/snorting about 120 mgs. nothing. only way SWIM has results is to take one to three 96 count bottles. SWIM gets amazing results. takes about three hours to kick in, but it works BIG TIME. SWIM has successfully done this at least 30 times. Just dont eat alot before knowing you are going to do this, as you wont shit for about a day solid. SWIM was addicted to about 40 mgs of hydro at one time of ingestion 3 times dailiy to get high, and that's the dose SWIM uses. So be careful and guage yourself to that scale. 3 bottles completely fucks SWIM up. You can stop breathing as with any other opiate, but VERY little crosses the bbb. try intaking some tonic water and eat a small handful of black pepper corns. it helps
 
Oh and it lasts about 15 hours when I take the average time. pinpoint red pupils. itching. euphoria. really, it's a full blown high. Also, through research, I've found that it isn't even harmful. Addictive, yes.
 
Snort Loperamide? Good god, please don't. I shudder to think of it. Orally, always. I've found that it helps in more ways than what it's meant for, but the relief is pretty mild. Then again I've never taken sky high amounts.
 
rnr715 said:
SWIM has tried extracting and insufflating/snorting about 120 mgs. nothing. only way SWIM has results is to take one to three 96 count bottles. SWIM gets amazing results. takes about three hours to kick in, but it works BIG TIME. SWIM has successfully done this at least 30 times. Just dont eat alot before knowing you are going to do this, as you wont shit for about a day solid. SWIM was addicted to about 40 mgs of hydro at one time of ingestion 3 times dailiy to get high, and that's the dose SWIM uses. So be careful and guage yourself to that scale. 3 bottles completely fucks SWIM up. You can stop breathing as with any other opiate, but VERY little crosses the bbb. try intaking some tonic water and eat a small handful of black pepper corns. it helps
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My friend DO NOT USE SWIM on these boards. The mods will tell you the same thing. Its annoying as hell to keep reading that. On Bluelight SWIM is a no no.
 
tablehead said:
I apologize in advance for making this thread, as I know there are many like it.
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Just search those threads then, and post in them if you need to.

Since this drug should be taken orally, and others have explained amounts they take to alleviate some WD symptoms, I think you've gotten the info you were looking for. I'm going to go ahead and close this.
 
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