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An idea I have for a new religion -- feedback welcome

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I've been turning over and tweaking this idea in my head for some time, and haven't told anyone about it. It's still very much a work in progress, but I think I have the basic foundation and framework solid, and as such I'm feeling ready to present it and decide from the feedback I get whether this is a brainchild worth birthing. And by this I mean making it a major contribution of mine to the world of any kind, not necessarily by any means an actual functioning new religion. I'd be happy just using it to craft an inspiring and uplifting work of fiction.

I've been fascinated for some time by the concept of a vocable, as it pertains to music. It's a concept that keeps popping up in the shadows I lurk in:
* Ancient songs of worship from tribal peoples in southern India whose vocals, linguists say, likely predate the existence of words
* Jewish nigun, vocals used in place of instruments for sabbath worship, because playing instruments is banned on the sabbath, and is considered crass for worship in general. The "yai da dai" that Paul Simon uses for the chorus of "The Boxer" is cut and pasted directly from this tradition
* The fascinating meeting of wordless vocals that have always existed in black American gospel music (and many of which probably date back to the first imported slaves, who worked the fields together with neither common language nor musical instruments), with ones borrowed back from jazz and hip hop in the form of scat singing
I could go on. There are many more examples from around the world.

And that's the point. I want to create a religion whose rites involve no words at all. Worshippers will vocalize interactively with each other in the highly dramatic, participatory, loosely scripted rites and rituals. But these vocalizations will not consist of meaningful syllables in any human language. Instead, they will combine seamlessly with the melodies and movements they're written to accompany, the sounds chosen carefully to evoke the sort of emotional response in the participants that the ritual is aiming to evoke. I'll want to do some reading on basic linguistics, and the evidence for sounds made in certain parts or with certain configurations of the human upper airway evoking universal emotional responses, as I am certain exists for certain melodic and harmonic combinations of musical notes.

This religion will be an esoteric or mystery religion, meaning that its teachings are imparted through initiation and revelation in private, rather than public broadcast. All around the world, aspiring initiates meet with a group of fellow aspiring initiates and a small team of people who have already been through the big initiatory rite and are full members of the fraternity. These meetings would consist in a large part of learning and practicing some of the songs and dances that one would be participating in -- in a set order and in a specially designed setting they'd never seen before -- at the major rite of initiation. I'm picturing the meeting happening once a week, opening and closing with a common opening or prayer that was mostly a short silent period of meditation and some simple humming. Then after the practice of the songs, there would be a discussion or exegesis of the meaning of the song in regards to our lives, the human condition, our connection to each other, and our connection to the great Whole.

Coming up next: a basic overview of the initiatory ritual. Keep it locked*.

*The actual meaning of con clave, literally, "with key" in Latin
 
its gods language and there is nothing new about it. Christians do it at my local church in a healing setting ! its kinda fun but sounds alot like crazy people loosing there shit
 
Before the birth of my second child, when the first contractions really kicked in, I started to panic and I suddenly remember in excruciating detail the pain of childbirth. I remember being in the hospital (breach baby, 1 month early) with all the C-section team around me, holding my midwife's hand and I just opened my throat and let this rhythmic sound follow each contraction. I did that all the way through the pushes. Three hours later I had sweet little baby boy on my stomach. My 3 year-old (with us at the hospital) asked me the next day what that song I was singing was.:) I told him that I had no idea but that I suspected it came from wherever his brother came from. It was a primal sound and a divine sound. I may have been delivering a baby but it was I who was delivered.

At the 2013 Psychedelic Sciences conference I got a chance to have a 20 minute session of sound healing/vibrational healing. With eyes closed and in total darkness you enter the sound as it enters you. Again, divine.

I think that we are meant to do this and language crowds it out. I love your idea.
 
sorry if i sounded like an ass ! im not knocking ur idea just pointing out that people do, do this already. if you start a church on this alone i would love to hear about it :) love and light
 
Glossolalia as religion? I like that as an idea.
Seems like there are so many examples of this - the ones you mention are really interesting; I never knew that about Paul Simon and "The Boxer".
Also, Herbie - that's an incredible story. I've never heard of that before, but it seems like non-verbal vocalisation serves so many purposes - from crying out in pain (or pleasure) to other creatures' use of sound such as birds' song, or cats' purring (if that can be considered the same or similar).
Sound is so ingrained in human culture, from music to the many finer points of language (such as accents).
Stripping away the linguistic side does seem to open up some primal pathways.

Interesting idea.
As for the post about "god's language" - that reminds me of "city of glass" from Paul Auster's novel The New York Trilogy. I wonder if anyone here has read that?
 
I think there's a possibility of an esoteric component of music/sounds in religion that has been lost down through time. Individually we know how healing humming can be for the body and mind, no doubt certain notes producing certain effects too, and how effective chanting mantras can be for putting the mind into a state of relaxation. Ancient structures have an affinity with sound too.. certain cathedrals and churchs resonate sound in a particular way, all the way back to the great pyramid and egyptian structures that resonate to specific notes and transmit sounds acoustically in particular ways.

For me personally I know that just visualizing the sound/humming in my head is enough to trigger a wave of tingles/relaxation.. I just kind of fall into the note and it displaces everything else. This affects me taste in music to a large degree too, preferring music with strong resonances, particular notes, or melodies that rise to a certain point.

I imagine most here know what it feels like to be at a concert where the sound is overwhelmingly loud. I reckon if enough people got together and got the right notes you could trigger some pretty interesting mental states. Perhaps that's what those ancient structures were for, especially the churches and cathedrals.
 
Sounds more like you're trying to start some form of choir mixed with a cult like skeleton.

What would be the beliefs of the religion? Guidelines to follow?
 
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