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StartedHydro

StartedHydro

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I have had a normal childhood. A little bit above middle class, Holy Cross high school, great friends, no problems with the ladies, never abused, GREAT GREAT GREAT family life... but as far back as I can remember I have ALWAYS abused something and finally settling on opiates/opiods. I have rolled, Amps, Meth, weed, Alch, every single opioate/opiod, but for no other reason other than to self medicate.

Is there a class of people who dont abuse to get away from some conflicit but use to just use? I cant figure myself out.
 
I think that people who abuse drugs (rather than just use them), are using for a reason. I always used to be adament that I just used because I liked the feeling, there was nothing deeper to it than that. But the desire to avoid pain is much stronger than the desire to achieve pleasure. And that's the difference between abuse and use I think.

Only you can figure out the reasons though. I also believe that some people require greater stimulation than others, and have different brain chemistry that means they experience less pleasure from day to day activities - so it may be down to biochemistry as well. But I do believe that even these people can live great lives without drugs if that's what they want - they just need to find the activities that will give them the stimulation/pleasure they need.

I also had a great childhood, a good life on paper. Sometimes I almost wish something fucked up had happened so I have an excuse for my drug problems! Sometimes having everything isn't enough though; it comes down to you feel.
 
StartedHydro said:
I have had a normal childhood. A little bit above middle class, Holy Cross high school, great friends, no problems with the ladies, never abused, GREAT GREAT GREAT family life... but as far back as I can remember I have ALWAYS abused something and finally settling on opiates/opiods. I have rolled, Amps, Meth, weed, Alch, every single opioate/opiod, but for no other reason other than to self medicate.

Is there a class of people who dont abuse to get away from some conflicit but use to just use? I cant figure myself out.
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I will tell you this.

As well off as you think you are try not using drugs for the next year then tell me you don't have problems that are making you use.

This thread is only representative of the denial I believe you're in. Sure people use drugs just to use them and don't develop crazy problems and sometimes stop. But if you just stopped, you'd find your life became incredibly sucky, as one of your major ways of coping with life is drugs.

Coping to avoid boredom is still coping, and still means you have a problem being happy not doing anything. Stop drugs tommorow, then get back to me in a month and tell me you weren't using to avoid something. It doesn't matter what you're trying to avoid.

Also, the last thing I will say is MANY people start using drugs for "no reason" and have experienced real no turmoil in earlier years BUT the drugs are what winds up ruining thier lives not their actual lives if that makes sense. Wheres your life after Holy Cross? What I mean is how old are you? Give yourself till between 30-40 using drugs everyday and I guarantee at some point you will hate yourself and your life. The fact that it doesn't happen right away only makes the addiction harder to stop when it does happen.
 
No, I am trying to figure myself out. I was dignosed with some affliction that has a hard time percevieving other peoples emtions from peoples facial respones. I forgot the name. Most people same I am a charming person who speaks to he gets what he wants. I can be very minuplating. I am a gemini if that helps.
 
StartedHydro said:
No, I am trying to figure myself out. I was dignosed with some affliction that has a hard time percevieving other peoples emtions from peoples facial respones. I forgot the name. Most people same I am a charming person who speaks to he gets what he wants. I can be very minuplating. I am a gemini if that helps.
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Let me give you some quick facts.

Communication is 7% verbal and 93% nonverbal. Facial expressions are a large part of actual communication, general body language, shuffling feet, posture, tone of voice, pace/pitch and all that other crap is a much smaller percentage.

What I'm saying is if you have a hard time percieving facial expressons, you have a hard time communicating with people, which would be MUCH MORE likely to put you in the category of noncharmer.

I'm just saying I use to be a complete social retard untill I started reading and practicing NLP which is a large part deciphering body language. I just can't understand how you're good at manipulating people if you don't know what their body language is saying.

Like how many times I've asked a girl out, had her say yes but KNOWN she wasn't truely attracted from her body language. So rather then ditch the situation with a number I'd stay to build proper attraction till I was getting confirmations from her bodylanguage. And facial expressions SAY MORE then verbal communication alone, read NLP and you will understand why.

So how is it that you think you are good at manipulating people? I manipulate people for a living and I'm just genuinely rather curious. Are you a natural born orator? Do you have a wide vocal tonality? A large vocabulary? What specific trait would you say allows you to manipulate people?
 
Your first step should be finding out what exactly it was you were diagnosed with. That could help you get some insight into how you operate (if the diagnosis is true). Since you say you're charming and have a hard time reading emotions, maybe some sort of anti social personality disorder. Just a guess.
 
I always abused to escape lifes pain that I seem to deal with on a day to day basis.

Probably why I have such an addictive personality....

Also my real dad who ive never met was a complete cokehead, so dunno if that has anything to do with anything.
 
Often, in the beginning, the use is strictly recreational. However, when you choose to use substances with known addictive properties, you run the risk of becoming addicted. Addiction is far more complex, and successful treatment typically requires more than just stopping use. But to answer your question...
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StartedHydro said:
Is there a class of people who dont abuse to get away from some conflicit but use to just use? I cant figure myself out.
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The simple fact that you're using addictive drug's is reason enough to continue using them. The rest is speculation; that is rather apparent.

P.S
I wouldn't put too much gravity, best would be none at all, into your astrological sign. If you genuinely believe this serves any beneficial purpose to you, then I would say that this affliction is far more worse than your diagnosed one.
 
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Is there a class of people who dont abuse to get away from some conflicit but use to just use? I cant figure myself out.
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Yes, drugs hijack our pleasure center. Physiology and psychological make up create some individual variance in how we respond to this. There does not need to be any trauma or pathology for one to develop a preference for for being high. Addiction or unhealthy use of drugs does not need to be a part of some other disorder.

Moderating one's drug use or abstaining usually comes from realizing some aspect of our use has unacceptable consequences. Is anything motivating you to curtail your use right now? Are their downsides of your usage? Typical problem areas are financial, occupational, health, and relationships/social.
 
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