Miscellaneous Ali Flip : LSD + MDMA + 2C-B Combination – Thoughts & Experiences?

[magicpsychonaut7]

So I confirm what the author of this thread said : When you take first LSD, then the empathogen, and then 2C-B, 6-APB and 5-MAPB are way much better than MDMA as empathogens because this latter is too fast to come up so you have a big rush during something like 30-40 min then you will be drop out and feel like you have lost the "sacred" feeling. 6-APB and 5-MAPB are more progressive and help you less to dive into the feeling of oneness with the universe, so it force you to let go more profoundly and it is just divine, you feel deep trust in yourself and I found it is more liberative. For me, the last timing to take 2C-B alongside MDMA is 2h15 after MDMA. If not, MDMA's crash is not avoid. If I take 6-APB instead, I can drop 2C-B 3-4 hours after it.

 

[magicpsychonaut7]

What is the rationale behind the staggered 2C-E dose? Less bodyload/nausea? And the staggered MDMA dose? Which kind of doses do you take with 2C-E solo, how intense is this combination? Adding 15 mg onto the plateau of 15 mg 2C-E would seem like a lot to me, but for me 15 mg 2C-E is already very intense.

Absolutely, split 2C-E dose allow to avoid nausea, and have a more progressive come up. I also splitted MDMA dose to not have this effect of big rush, then drop out (when I mentionned in my last message). So it allows to have a more complete experience which last longer and with which you have more time to dive into the feeling of oneness. Also I never been higher than 15mg of 2C-E, I only took it 2 times, one time 15mg alone, and the second time 15mg in this combo, but I have previous experiences like 250ug of LSD, an ali flip with 200ug LSD, 110mg 6-APB, 40mg MDMA and 18mg 2C-B. So it is "easy" for me to manage those type of combo. This combo with 2C-E was incredibly powerful, I don't even imagine the intensity with 20mg of 2C-E and ~140-145mg of MDMA. You know this type of combo (in my vision), work as levels. Level one 5mg of 2C-E, level two, 10mg, level three 15mg, level four 20mg and level five 25mg which make you live an ego death almost for sure. At each level, doses of MDMA/empathogen and 2C-B have to be ajusted, for empatho it is to 2C-E don't overpowers, and for 2C-B it is to well counter the empatho's crash. It is tge same "rule" if you use LSD instead of 2C-E, you could even use mescaline. The idea is : a long, powerfull and deep psychedelic such as LSD, 2C-E, Mescaline, ETH-LAD. Then an empatho (MDMA, 6-APB, 5-MAPB...) , then a smooth psychedelic like 2C-B, 2C-C, 2C-D, 2C-B-FLY...