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i dont know if i've ever seen a general thread for this. i'd like this to be a place for ppl who struggle w/it to let it all out. i struggle with alcoholism on a daily but my attempt to glorify it is nothing more than a mask. it has a "dark side' if you will..

i'd like to fee like im not alone in this if anyone else has problems w/alcohol....just to vent...

tonight for example i told one of my very best friends (shes also a drunk) to get the fuck out of my house and i called her a "stupid cunt". i dont even rememeber what we were arguing about and i doubt she does either.:\

i just want a general thread about this, but if i am drunk and there already is one, mods or someone plz link me to it.d
 
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I don't think there is. It's a good idea - alcohol addiction gets a little overlooked on BL, I think, but it's just as much of a problem as heroin or meth or anything else. Particularly when you consider the physical damage it does and the blatant encouragement of binge-drinking that exists in many cultures....

Anyway. On topic: I drink much less than I used to. Still every day, but not at a level that I'm particularly concerned with. It's better than a bottle of wine every night, anyway. :\
 
im with you bro, although ive got to say... it has not been hard for me not drinking. i guess im lucky i can go from every day to pretty much none at all fairly easy. i feel your pain though, i mean i loooove getting drunk no doubt. would probably get drunk over smoking weed or even rolling sometimes

this was a good idea though, especially after the debacle that was the alcohol withdraw thread
 
guineaPig said:
tonight for example i told one of my very best friends (shes also a drunk) to get the fuck out of my house and i called her a "stupid cunt". i dont even rememeber what we were arguing about and i doubt she does either.:\

I do that sort of shit about once every 3 months. I get so fucked up that I don't give a shit about anyone and I get all tough, loud and invincible. Every girlfriend I've had in the last few years has seen a side of me that I'd hate my worst enemy's to see. I don't get violent, but I do say the worst things you could imagine. Just two weeks ago, I told my girlfriend that I really love, that in no certain terms she means nothing to me and I wish she was dead...

On a general basis my drinking is fine and on the same social level as everyone else. It's these REALLY bad events that make me sometimes wonder if I do have a problem. I mean, its only 1 out of about 30 odd drinking sessions that this happens.....

Also, on a few occasions I've blacked out and woken up with zero memory of the end of the night. It's these times that I've really said some horrible stuff and find out in the morning. Everyone thinks I knew what I was doing however I definitely don't...

Hmmm. I guess I don't know when you determine when you can't drink anymore. I'd HATE to not be able to drink.

Good thread.
 
^ aww well fuck man, if that means your an alcoholic then i guess i am too.

it tears me up (like paper not tears) sometimes the shit ive done drunk. pretty much the reason me and my ex broke up (long story, maybe when im feeling blue ill reiterate it on this thread).

i totally know what your saying though... i mean sometimes i get way out of control and do things to people i would never do. im not violent with girls but fuck me i get angry sometimes when im drunk. for no reason really either.... fuck man... maybe i should just not drink anymore
 
subopm420 said:
^ aww well fuck man, if that means your an alcoholic then i guess i am too.


Just because you don't get drunk and behave like that all the time, does not mean you don't have a problem with your drinking.

I don't drink that often anymore, but when I do drink to the point where I'm blind, I am not a nice person to be around. It was when I realised this that I saw that I do have a fucking problem. I convinced myself for ages that I didn't because I didn't drink and act like a dickhead everyday.

I did alot of research on drinking problems and it opened my eyes to alot of things like this.
 
^ yea man, i hear what your saying. like i said, ive stopped drinking pretty much totally. ive had maybe five drinks in the past 3 months so id say im doin alright.

but you are correct, i mean i can drink some times to the point that i cant handle my shit. last time i blacked out my friends had to pull me off a balcony cause i was gonna jump off and see if i could land in a fucking tree or something ??

i donno, i only get violent like every once and a blue moon
 
While I wouldn't consider myself an alcoholic - I'm a DRUG addict motherfucker ;p - I have seen quite a few people in detox that were true, life-long alcoholics. Ever seen how much damage alcohol can do to you ? People hallucinating, having grand mal seziures, shaking for months after (unable to hold their coffee with one hand), etcetc... To some that glorify alcoholism - the joke is truely on you.

Yet while I say all of this, if I had the ways and means to constantly have alcohol in front of me, I would probably be perpetually drunk - and I don't particularly like being drunk! But that is the "addict" in me, as NA would say. I could steal/beg/etc to be drunk everyday, but I've grown up some since heroin addiction beat my ass. Just remember guys, not everyone is addicted yet, remind them sometimes that, REALLY, WE WERE LIKE YOU, and you will be like OUR fucked up selves if you continue down a road you know could end up horrible. And if you think it'll all be okay, you can drink every day for a few weeks and stop.... Perhaps you can, but if your like me or many others here, you'll keep going and soon will be just as fucked up as all of us TDS motherfuckers.
 
yessir i can vouch for alcohol wd's being hellish, but the weird thing is im even tho i was a physically dependant alcoholic i can easily never touch it again, as long as i have weed ecstasy and oxy
 
I quit drinking for lent and have been doing really good. I did have few few drinks at the wake for my uncle over this last weekend, but when I got back to the island last night with spring break in full effect and didn't eeven have one drink whenn I took the little girls out to the bar.
 
today,actually a hour ago,for the first time in my drinking years i found relieve in the first sip of wine.Now i overdid it this weekend whith way to much alcohol,but i was really scared how i liked the warm and comfortable feeling that first sip gave me.

Could i consider this a first sign to alcohol addiction?I drink everyday,just one bottle of wine,but this sensation described above scared me.

Anyone can relate to this?
 
^alcoholism isnt a clearcut thing...for me, it was when i went to AA for the first time and realized all these ppl who were like twice my age were telling stories that were near identical to things i had been through.

anyways, for the life of me, i cant stop. even w/the negative effects. if i can manage to stop shaking today im gonna go back to AA. i dont know how much good it'll do.
 
I had a problem with alcohol a few years back. By nature, apparently, I am not mean, as I never said anything mean to my girlfriend or friends or anyone else. But I started to black out every time I would drink. Every time I would decide I needed to stop while I was still conscious, and then the lack of power of reasoning would lead me drink too much. We'd be walking home from a party, and I'd wander off and sit down on someone's driveway, for example, and lay down. Then when my friends and/or girlfriend (now fiance) would come to get me, they'd ask what I was doing, and I'd say, in a very annoyed tone, "Nothing! What the hell... I'm just trying to walk home!" Except with a lot more slurring.

I never drank every day, but I did about 4 times a week for the first two years of college. I was never physically addicted, but I was pretty out of control. The last summer I drank, after sophomore year of college, I would come home every day from work and no one would be home at my house. If there wasn't anything to do, I'd have a drink to chill out, and before I knew it, I'd be waking up the next morning to my dad shaking his head at me for having stolen their liquor and getting wasted.

The turning point came when I was at a party one day and chugged a few shots of vodka. At that point, I would black out really, really easily. Once it happened on only 5 shots (although they were taken pretty rapidly). Then, apparently (although I had retrograde amnesia so I didn't remember the entire night, even before getting drunk) I had chugged the entire rest of the bottle. I then went and passed out on the frotn porch of this guy's house. Fortunately I hadn't driven. My friend drove me home, and my other friend Steve was supposed to stay over at my parents' house with me (this was towards the end of that same summer after sophomore year of college). However, he really wanted to see this girl who lived 20 minutes away. Of course I don't remember this at all, but he spent the next half hour trying to convince me to drive him, but I couldn't even speak. Then finally he got me to speak. I said "ok, let's go", and like an idiot he agreed, even though I could still not even walk. So, needless to say, I made it about 5 minutes away, with Steve correcting the wheel for me from the passenger seat, until I drove into a small ditch. Then two sheriffs pulled up. I couldn't even say my own name and I had weed and vicodin on me, and I was throwing up on myself. it looked bleak indeed.

But through some massive coincidence/stroke of luck, my distant cousin had just married a girl who was on the same police force, and our last names match. So the cops took pity on me, and called my dad and said that if he came right away they would let me go scott-free. So he did, and they didn't even search me to find my weed, pipe, and vicodin. On the way home, I pissed my pants and threw up in my dad's BMW. I then kept getting up all through the night and doing stupid shit, like turning on the shower and watching it as it got water all over the floor.

Anyway, to me, this is what happened. I was walking into the party at midnight, sober (or maybe a little high on weed. Probably), and then I was waking up in my bed at noon with a really strange feeling of foreboding but no idea at all what had happened, until my dad came in with the phone, asked if I was alright, and said it was my girlfriend. Over the next few hours, I heard from her and from my dad what had happened, and I was just devastated. It really hit me that I had a serious problem if I was going to continually let things like that happen. I had alcohol poisoning and was sick as a dog for a week, and I was emotionally unbalanced for the rest of the summer. it was truly horrible, by far the worst I have ever felt. I felt like I'd never be normal again.

I didn't drink a drop for over 6 months, and since then I've gotten drunk twice, and only drank any alcohol at all a few times. I guess it took something seriously traumatic to stop, but once that happened it was very easy to stop; like I said, I was never physically addicted. Ever since then, alcohol has made me feel extremely shitty and poisoned when I have even a single glass of wine or beer with dinner. The result of this is that I have not had a single drop of alcohol in over a year (I'm 24 now, and this happened when I was 19). I just don't like it anymore. It makes my limbs sore, especially my legs, and makes me grumpy and tired and totally unmotivated to do anything at all. I used to enjoy drinking on amphetamines, but no more for that, either. I'm truly glad, though, that I hate alcohol now, because it's just really bad for me, personally (really bad for everyone, actually, as it is quite shockingly poisonous to humans, especially the brain and liver). There are about a million better drugs anyway that are much, much safer (physically), and can provide benefits if used correctly. These days I pretty much only use psychedelics, marijuana, and kratom.

I guess this ended up being a pretty long anecdote. But hopefully something in my story will help someone out. If you think you're hovering on the brink of alcoholism, then you probably are. If you have personaly problems when you drink alcohol, then I highly recommend that you stop immediately, because I've never tried another drug that has anywhere near as much potential for loss of control and stupid, stupid decisions as alcohol does. Nor do I know of many that will kill you faster.
 
i had problems with a slow addiction process... i've only blacked out once (and consequently did something regrettable that time) so it seemed totally benign and i just kept drinking all the damn time... never had a problem driving drunk nor was i ever caught driving drunk so nothing held me back from being smashed out of my mind every day of the week but eventually i could feel my body was in pain and i decided i'd have to cut the shit out... didn't wanna go to the hospital with that kind of shit though so i just went through some opiates for withdrawals just enough not to make me feel like dying though I still felt like shit so I'm glad to be out of that, and I still like to drink hard but nowadays i'm holding myself back so I don't think this is gonna be a problem for me again
 
^ I hope not... just be careful, man. The only thing I've been addicted to is kratom, but every time I quit and then start again after all withdrawal has stopped, it takes me hardly any time at all to start using it every day again.
 
^^i've blacked out more times than i can count. it scares most ppl when they black out but for me, i dont worry about it. i've just somehow gotten used to waking up in random places w/a whole lot of apologizing to do. its not a good thing. you are capable of nearly any sort of dumbassery when blacked out.

hell, i've woken up in cuffs and im not talking about some kinky bedroom shit either.
im really glad this thread caught on cuz every now and then, its nice to not feel so alone in this.
 
Fuck I have no beer left, and the wife is clutching what is left of the wine with the glint of a feral animal in her eyes as I idly cast envious glances toward it !

Fucking everywhere is shut.
 
I don't think I have a real problem yet. Maybe just a seedling of one. I'm 17, a high school senior who gets drunk every weekend. But so does everyone else.

It pales in comparison to many of the posters here but I fear the implications of it. That after college, when it's not so "cool" to be drunk all the time anymore, I'll still
be getting drunk every night.
 
Xorkoth said:
If you think you're hovering on the brink of alcoholism, then you probably are. If you have personaly problems when you drink alcohol, then I highly recommend that you stop immediately.

This is a great point and the bit that scares me, not seeing the warning signs (or choosing to ignore them) and doing something about it in the earlier stages, BEFORE you end up doing something even more stupid then the things you have already done. I used to tell myself, but i'm not THAT bad, I'm not as bad as those pathetic drunks, but in reality, I was that bad, just a different type of bad, and if I didn't pull my head in I was going to end up just like them anyway.

Learning more about it and learning from others is a really big help for me in stopping my destructive behaviour when I drink too much.
 
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