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Misc Alcohol Withdrawals..

If he doesn't want to get medical help, then at least make sure he is able to drink water, eat food if possible, and watch him as much as possible. If there's anyone else who can assist in monitoring him, that would also help out.

I hope I didn't offend you earlier.
 
Real quick post cos i gotta head out, but could you/have you let him know how much it hurts you to see him like this.

Also, have you tried a little tough love, as in not asking him to have a drink, but taking on the dominant responsible role, and saying that this is what is going to happen - you need to have a drink, so as to not cause yourself more damage - and tell him the detox has to be done properly over a few months.

Chances are he hasn't anyone to care for him in that way for a long time and that could contribute to the problem.

Let him know you aren't going anywhere, and have seen dope fiends through times a hundred times worse than what he is going through (really you probly havn't seen anything as bad as severe alcohol withdrawal, but it might take a tiny but of the doom and gloom of the situation away, by letting him know he is not the only one out there to have gone through tough times.....

Sorry i will write that paragraph better later, as i don't think i worded it quite right. Hope you get some of my drift though...

Also, tell a doctor everything you have said here, and try to get some valium?

All the best, hope he is ok.
 
you also have a really good post frogman.....

alot of really good help in this thread...........
 
I went thru alcohol w/d cold turkey and it was hell! I shook so badly for days that it was more like convulsions! It took weeks for the vertigo to go away and years to actually feel normal again. But as horrible as it was, I'm glad I went thru it because that was the only way I could go from being a 5th of jack daniels a day drinker to being sober. Knowing what I know now, I wish I went to the hospital for a detox. Opiate wd may get you sick. But alcohol wd can kill. The hardest part was learning to live again without getting drunk every day. That took alot of work.
 
Wow difficult situation.

A lot of good things have been said, and I'm sure you are aware of the risk of seizures so I won't mention that again no matter how important it is to prevent them :), but I thought I would also add that what your uncle is doing now, wanting to go through this pain, I think it is a lot like self harm. Hurting himself physically is just another way to not feel pain emotionally. Don't know if this will help you at all but it might give you some more depth on why he is refusing to make it easier on himself and do this properly.



The hardest part was learning to live again without getting drunk every day. That took alot of work.
You don't feel bored when you are drunk eh.
 
I haven't read this whole thread

I have read bits and pieces here, but alcohol withdrawal is nothing to play around with. I have seen it first hand, and been through it, but not nearly as bad as some people I know. I never had seizures or anything like that, but there was no worst feeling in the world to me to go on a binge for a week or two, then try and stop, and get that really sick feeling. Mine was mild compared to what a friend of mine is going through right now. I met him in rehab last year, and had no idea just how bad off he was, until he became my roommate. This time last year, I had an alcoholic, and a recovering crack addict living with me. Being a recovering addict myself, to both alcohol and opiates, I have a soft spot in my heart for trying to help other addicts. My parents, friends, neighbors, etc, could not understand why I would have people like this living with me, but they also don't know jack about addiction.

The first two weeks this guy lived with me he stayed sober. He was a very intelligent person, graduated second in his class at the college he attended. He made six figures a year at one point, and has two adorable children. We all went out for a night on the town one night last October, and after that it was on like donkey Kong. He got drunk, after I tried to talk him out of drinking, and the holidays last year were horrible with him living here. Within about five days he started drinking in the mornings, and staying drunk all day long. Then one night, my other roommate and I were out in the garage, heard a loud boom, and he was laid out on the kitchen floor, having a seizure. He lived here until New Year's Eve last year, and was hospitalized three times, and had at least six seizures while living here. Me and my other roommate could always see it coming. We got to the point where every time we heard a noise upstairs, we were like "Oh gosh, is it happening again?" We were terrified that he was going to die in front of us.

Long story short, on New Year's Eve, I had already been trying to get him to move out for about two or three weeks, but he was so drunk and strung out he never remembered our conversations. On New Year's Eve, he started throwing up, like he always did before having seizures, and me and my other roommate came up with a plan. He was always out of it for a good half an hour after a seizure, so we just sat around the house, waited for it to happen, and then picked his unconscious ass up, drug him down the stairs, put him in the car, and dropped him off at the hospital. He came too at the hospital, got down on all fours like a wild dog when he got out of my car, and started screaming at the nurses, "Who are you, what is this," over and over again. It was not a laughing situation, but hell, if anyone could have seen him, even the nurses were holding back from laughing. It was really a very tragic situation, though. I said that's the last time he is ever coming in my house, and I meant it. This was his third trip to the hospital, and the next day, he called me up and asked me to come get him. I said no, you can’t come back here; you have no idea the stress you are causing in my household.” He begged, pleaded, said he was through with drinking this time, but I didn't give in, because I had heard it before.

He has been living in the same hotel room ever since. It's like $300 dollars a week, and his mother is paying for it! He is a lot older than me, and turns 40 next week, if he makes it that long. I am looking for him to die any day now. He called me yesterday, and I could tell by the tone of his voice that he was sick. In the middle of our conversation, he all of a sudden said "let me call you back in a little while," and sounded like he was going to throw up. I wish I could do something to help him, it's so sad to see a once intelligent person, who had a wife, has kids, and was living the high life, living out of a hotel room, and constantly going through DT's. I tried to help him when he was here, but I am not sure if he even cares if he dies or not, I think he's given up on life. He's been to like six rehabs, so the only person that can help him now is himself.

Alcohol withdrawals are deadly, even more deadly than any illegal drug out there.
 
thanks to everyone sorry i ddnt update earlier i havent really been on bu i guess i got good news....today is day 7 of no drinking for him and like day 3 of no major WD symptoms..hes back to eating and smoking weed and actually doing shit not all bed riddin...he seems to not want to drink i mean he even went to the liqour store with his neighbor and didnt buy anything..hopeflly this lasts forever but we know all good things come to an end

again i appreciate the responses and the support
 
o wow!

thanks for the update

im glad hes doing so well!!!!

big difference...........
 
you should dissolve some xanax in his water since benzos and booze all act on the gaba receptors and banzos will make sure he doesnt have grand mal and die
 
Hey, if he's not shaking and shit and it's been 7 days, I think he's out of the woods.

Really glad to hear he's OK; alcohol wd's kill.

You think he can go back to having responsible, sociable drinks, or is he going for completely sober living from now on?

Personally I think if you like doing something, even if you had a horrible problem with it, then you should be able to do it now and again without it controlling your life. That said, some people can never go back and have to stay sober forever.

Once again, kudos to you and him for getting through this!
 
Hey I appreciate it..today has been 2weeks since his last drink and I guess he is all clear..he says he doesn't want to drink again but I can't see that..I mean I'd love to see it but I find it difficult to think he won't have a few beers or a couple drinks some point but as of right now he wants nothing to do with it..personally I have no problem chillin with him not drinkin, he says he doesn't care if I drink but I'm not really drinker anyways so I don't need it, and why put it in his face?
 
^that's great to hear man.

I doubt he could go back to any social drinking and I'm guessing if he picks up the bottle again, it'll be with the aim of emptying it, not using it moderately and irregularly.

Its exceedingly rare for people with any kind of substantial addiction history to be able to use their DOC (or often, any drug) casually in the future.
 
Its exceedingly rare for people with any kind of substantial addiction history to be able to use their DOC (or often, any drug) casually in the future.

not much to say about this....

other than......thats true and a giant bitch.....
 
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