Adhd

[sam123]

So im relatively new to this forum but i have posted some pieces of my story a few times. since im sure its not know im gonna give a brief overview of my circumstances before i adress my question.

I am addicted to IV stimulants (coke, meth) but i am approximately 190 days clean now.

I have a severe ADHD and was diagnosed years ago as kid but never took medication.

With the help of my intervention speecialist, parents and DR i am on prescription meds for my ADHD and it have tremendously helped me to act normal / perform well in school.

Ive tried ritalin, adderal, concerta, and vyvanze, but currently take Vyvanse 30mg daily XR.

I never abuse my meds to get high ( surprisingly) but sometimes i take 45 mgs or 60 if i have an extremely busy day.

What i have been noticing is that when i took a stronger dose of vyvanse i feel much more "normal" than even on a 30 mg dose. I actually feel less 'high' than i do on a 30 mg dose since i spend less time questioning whether the meds are working or not and simply handle my tasks. I feel like a higher dose would be beneficial to me since it dont get high but simply feel more productive and in a way more "normal". It also provides me the motivation to complete task that i normally feel are impossible.

so my questions are....

does anyone here rely on a high dose (60+mgs) of amphetamines to curb there ADHD. And does your Dr prescribe the high does?

I dont know anyone who takes over 30 mgs of any amphetamine for ADHD but i truly feel i need more to feel "normal"... anyone else feel this way?

Im wondering if this is realistically manageable? or due to side affects does this become a fucked up cycle of dosing amphetamines all day every day...

I would like to add that somedays i dont take my meds and i still feel completely fine and dont by any means crave them. But when it comes down to the heavy load of school work i have and completing all my tasks and acting like a functional person i truly feel inhibited by ADHD even on a 30mg dose of vyvanse.

 

[molly897]

vyvanse 60 mg XR = adderall 30mg XR. vyvanse doesn't go as up and down as adderall so that's why it probably works better for you but the reason you need more isn['t cuz you need more amphetamine, vyvanse is just different and contains less dex compared to adderall. i took a 30mg vyvanse and didn't feel anything

everything i've read about being on high doses is because the tolerance has been built and not because they start out there. but yeah 60mgs of amphetamine would probably work perfect on the ADHD brain as opposed to 15-20 that's usually prescribed, but it's really hard to get it right with these medications because they are so up and down. so i don't mean 60mgs at once but 20mgs every couple of hours yes would be ideal imo

the highest dose i've heard of is 70mg of vy being prescribed.. which would be equivalent to one 30mg adderall XR. you should just talk to your doctor. he can explain to you how much d-amph is actually in it and why it works like it does, and why you initially would need more of it. i explained everything i was feeling and in the end suggested vyvanse

have you considered trying adderall again? if you can get a high enough dose of the XR i would do that over vyvanse

 

[kaossalami]

Have you tryed straterra? (Atomoxetine). Some people have had high success with this med..but it takes weeks to reach its full potential. For me it didn't work..I currently take..as perscribed..60mg to 80mg of adderall a day for my adhd. I've talked to my doctor about this dose and he said it was appropriate. Everyone is different. Im also on an ssri currently too..which has helped with crashes and that pissed off weird feeling I get from adderall. I don't know about vynase..ritalin or concerta because I haven't been on any of those since I was younger,

 

[sam123]

I have heard of straterra but dont wanna start it now since i dont have time for that lol.

molly thanks for the advice.
I didnt know that about vyvanse vs aderall. For me the vyvanse works significantly better and now that i think about it the 30 mg adderal is def way way stronger than a 30 mg vyvanse. I didnt care though i guess since vyvanse felt way better. Im gonna talk to my DR and explain this im sure ill get a higher dose.

 

[molly897]

yup np, vyvanse is made to stay 'up' all day if that makes sense, adderall is like ----^^^^_____^^^^^-----___________

vyvanse is: ----^^^^^^^^^^^^---^^^^^----^^^^^^^^--^^^^^----------______

---- = neutral
^^^ = medicine working
____ = comedown

lol

i hear strattera sucks as far as being able to focus