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7 powerful quotes from ‘Jane Roe’ of Roe v. Wade

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7 powerful quotes from ‘Jane Roe’ of Roe v. Wade

By Sarah Terzo | January 20, 2016 , 02:03pm


“You read about me in history books, but now I am dedicated to spreading the truth about preserving the dignity of all human life from natural conception to natural death.”

Norma McCorvey, also known as “Jane Roe” of Roe v. Wade, was the plaintiff that attorneys, Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee, used in the Texas court case that struck down all laws against abortion throughout the United States. Today, McCorvey is pro-life.

1) “The entire basis for Roe v. Wade was built upon false assumptions.”

In an affidavit McCorvey submitted to the District Court of New Jersey in 2000, she says:

Virtually the entire basis for Roe v. Wade was built upon false assumptions. No meaningful trial to determine the real facts was ever held.

The misrepresentations and deceptions that plagued Roe v. Wade are presented to this Court …. These facts, which were neither disclosed to me in 1970 nor to the plaintiffs of this case before they had an abortion, are critical for understanding the issues involved. …we obtained a decision in Roe v. Wade based upon what abortion advocates wanted women to be able to do, not what women were truly capable of.

2) “I didn’t know during the Roe v. Wade case that the life of a human being was terminated.”

McCorvey became pregnant during a low point in her life. She was homeless and living in a public park, and her other two children were being raised by others. A lawyer she was speaking to about adoption referred her to Weddington and Coffee.

The lawyers allegedly fawned over McCorvey, taking her out to eat and giving her lots of attention. They complained about being unable to find the perfect plaintiff for their case to make abortion legal. They told McCorvey that she was the ideal case. According to McCorvey:

They said yes, “You’re white. You’re young, pregnant, and you want an abortion.” At that time, I didn’t know their full intent. Only that they wanted to make abortion legal and they thought I’d be a good plaintiff. I came for the food, and they led me to believe that they could help me get an abortion.

During our meeting, they questioned me, “Norma don’t you think that abortion should be legal?” Unsure, I responded that I did not know. In fact, I did not know what the term “abortion” really meant. Back in 1970, no one discussed abortion. It was taboo, and so too was the subject of abortion. The only thing I knew about the word was in the context of war movies. I had heard the word “abort” when John Wayne was flying his plane and ordered the others to “Abort the mission.” I knew “abort” meant that they were “going back”. “Abortion”, to me, meant “going back” to the condition of not being pregnant.

I never looked the word up in the dictionary until after I had already signed the affidavit. I was very naive. For their part, my lawyers lied to me about the nature of abortion. Weddington convinced me that “It’s just a piece of tissue. You just missed your period.” I didn’t know during the Roe v. Wade case that the life of a human being was terminated.

3) “The courts…I feel used me to justify legalization of terminating of the lives of over 35 million babies.”

McCorvey trusted her lawyers, and signed the affidavit of Roe v. Wade without reading it. Knowing little about abortion procedures, McCorvey believed Weddington when she told her that abortion was removing “a bit of tissue.” McCorvey explains why she later felt exploited:

At that time, I was a street person. I lived, worked, and panhandled out on the streets. My totally powerless circumstance made it easy for them to use me. My presence was a necessary evil. My real interests were not their concern.

Weddington and Coffee did nothing to improve McCorvey’s situation. They knew she was on the street addicted to drugs, but never helped her or directed her to help. They merely used her, and then decided that her story was not compelling enough.

Weddington and Coffee made up the fiction that McCorvey had conceived out of gang rape. This was a lie, but was it passed on to the court and the media as though it were true. McCorvey would later say:

Although I was an emotionally abused child, and a sexually abused teenager, I believe the worst abuse was inflicted by the judicial system. In retrospect, I was exploited by two self-interested attorneys.

Worse, the courts, without looking into my true circumstances and taking the time to decide the real impact abortion would have upon women, I feel used me to justify legalization of terminating of the lives of over 35 million babies. Although on an intellectual level I know it was exploited, the responsibility I feel for this tragedy is overwhelming.

4) “There were dead babies and baby parts stacked like cord wood.”

After the Roe decision, McCovery became a pro-choice icon. But at a pro-choice march, McCorvey had an encounter that left her confused and troubled. A young woman came up to her and said:

“I just think it’s, like, cool – what you’ve done; how you’ve made it possible for me to get my abortions.”

“Abortions?” I said, stressing the word, How many have you had?”

“I don’t know.” The girl shrugged. “5 or 6, I guess.”

I cringed…I could understand a woman making one mistake. I could even understand the woman making the same mistake twice. But half-dozen times? ….I had to get away from her. I couldn’t stand there and talk to her anymore.”(1)

Despite this uncomfortable experience, McCorvey went on to work in the abortion industry.

She says:

I worked in several abortion facilities over the years. In fact, I even worked at two clinics at the same time, and they were all the same with respect to the condition of the facilities and that “counseling” the women receive.

One clinic where I worked in 1995 was typical: light fixtures and plaster falling from the ceiling; rat droppings over the sinks; backed up sinks; and blood splattered on the walls. But the most distressing room in the facility was the “parts room.”

Aborted babies were stored here. There were dead babies and baby parts stacked like cord wood. Some of the babies made it into buckets and others did not,….. The stench was horrible. Plastic bags full of baby parts, little tiny hands and feet visible through the jars, frozen in blood. The abortion clinic’s personnel always referred to these dismembered babies as “tissue.”

5) “No one even explained to the mother that the child already existed and the life of a human was being terminated.”

Working in filthy abortion facility conditions wore her down, but McCorvey still supported abortion. She describes abortion “counseling” at the facilities:

While the manners of the abortionists and the uncleanliness of the facilities greatly shocked me, the lack of counseling provided the women was perhaps the greatest tragedy. Early in my abortion career, it became evident that the “counselors” and the abortionists were there for only one reason – to sell abortions. …There was never an explanation of the procedure.

No one even explained to the mother that the child already existed and the life of a human was being terminated. No one ever explained that there were options to abortion, that financial help was available, or that the child was a unique and irreplaceable. No one ever explained that there were psychological and physical risks of harm to the mother.

There was never time for the mother to reflect or to consult with anyone who could offer her help or an alternative. There was no informed consent. In my opinion, the only thing the abortion doctors and clinics cared about was making money. No abortion clinic cared about the women involved. As far as I could tell, every woman had the name of Jane Roe.

6) “Clinic workers suffer, the women suffer, and the babies die.”

McCorvey recalls another incident that troubled her. A woman was getting a second trimester abortion at her clinic, and saw the hand of her preborn child.

After we discussed prices, she decided to save the extra $250 we charged for general anesthesia, so she was awake at the start of the abortion.

Unfortunately, she looked down during the procedure and saw the baby’s hand as the doctor took it out.

I heard her gasp, saw what she saw, and quickly covered her eyes, but it was too late. She had already passed out.

When she came to, the doctor was finished. The young woman looked up at me with horror in her eyes and asked me about what she had seen.

“I don’t know what you are talking about,” I lied.

“But I saw a part of my baby! I know I did!”

“Honey, I was there the whole time, and I didn’t see a thing. You must have imagined it.”

If you think it was hard maintaining my composure in such situations, you’re right. Believe me, it takes a lot of beers to make yourself forget what you’re doing.(2)

McCorvey says the deception at her abortion facility was bent on dehumanizing the preborn child:

After I saw all the deception going on in the abortion facilities, and after all the things that my supervisors told me to tell the women, I became very angry. I saw women being lied to, openly, and I was part of it. There’s no telling how many children I helped kill while their mothers dug their nails into me and listened to my warning, “Whatever you do, don’t move!” I can assure the court that the interest of these mothers is not a concern of abortion providers.

Because I was drunk or stoned much of the time, I was able to continue this work for a long time, probably much longer than most clinic workers. It is a high turnover job, because of the true nature of the business. The abortion business is an inherently dehumanizing one. A person has to let her heart and soul die or go numb to stay in practice. The clinic workers suffer, the women suffer, and the babies die.

7) “I long for the day that justice will be done and the burden from all of these deaths will be removed from my shoulders.”

Roe’s pro-life conversion came about when pro-lifers moved into a building across the street and began to reach out to her and the other clinic workers (you can read details about how her conversion came about in her book Won by Love). Now firmly in the pro-life movement, she wants to undo the harm her case caused:

I long for the day that justice will be done and the burden from all of these deaths will be removed from my shoulders. I want to do everything in my power to help women and their children. (3)

http://liveactionnews.org/7-powerful-quotes-from-jane-roe-of-roe-v-wade/
 
It's too bad the pressure got to her and she became mentally ill. What she and the movement did for women and America should never be forgotten. Trump and all these fascist scumbags want to destroy these laws so women and children will die and suffer, they jack off at forcing women to give birth all because of what they believe a fairy tale book says.
 
I have a headache from rolling my eyes so much at this tripe but because I hate myself I read some of the comments at the source. You don't like abortion? Fine, don't get one. What's that, you're a man and can't get pregnant? Shut your fucking mouth cunt.

Any argument with a prolifer will eventually boil down to 'if you don't want to get pregnant, keep your legs closed'. It's the Godwin's law of reproductive rights arguments.
 
She should feel proud of herself, not ashamed. She did something important.

I don't for a second believe she was unaware of what "abortion" meant. I mean, come on.

None of the quotes are particularly pertinent or even significant. They are emotive and manipulated hot air really.
 
Just thought it was interesting that the woman that had such a pivotal role in making abortion legal became pro-life. If you don't like the article or find interesting don't read it.
 
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I didn't know.

I don't think we can fairly compare or say that men shouldn't have an opinion on the matter. I'm not sold on "sexual liberation"- myself. I got an incurable disease that can be spread even with condoms, and it can cause cancer. I feel bad every time I have sex now, which hasn't been in a long time except with escorts- which has also been awhile. No I did not get it from an escort- I got it years before.

Also, it's really quite fruitless if you aren't in love and open to pregnancy. This is my processing. I mean sure it feels awesome. It's fun. Even feels awesome for a time after. But in the end it just makes me want.

Abortion is a tricky issue because no matter your silly words or how you define a growing human life- it is still termination/death/killing of things that often clearly resemble you, with ten fingers, ten toes, a beating heart, and a brain.

Abortion is tricky because of how fucked up we are anyways (damage control? Very crude and ugly evil damage control/excuses for stupidity/not understanding). I hope that we can instill better values in future generations. I certainly understand the pro-life camp, but, admittedly, I have had one known pregnancy from me, and I paid half of her abortion. I have the picture- it was about 3 and a half months. It haunts me. I'm a guy.

And about it not being fair- we don't know how women would react to a men if they were the ones carrying the child... We all have a sense of wanting the right things not the wrong things. And fair: when a man gets a woman pregnant, his next 18 years is in her "choice"; if she chooses to have the child, he can be forced to pay child support, and if she chooses to terminate, "shut up you fucking male it's not your business" says society. It really is really fucked up.

I totally respect Roe for changing her mind. I think people here dismissing her here as simply mentally ill need to grow a fucking brain, or heart.
 
I agree that men "should" have a say, but ultimately, its growing in the woman. Her body, her choice. I cant see any other way. But I dislike how men are being relegated to inconsequentiality in matters of child rearing. However, there is some evidence to suggest male humans did not really evolve parenting traits. Any contribution is largely unimportant. Even resource gathering, in males, is more about securing mates rather than providing.

Of course, we aren't simply animals these days. We're something else entirely.

The semantic argument is difficult. What is a human? What is life? Is a shitty life better than no life? Is a baby, on the womb, seperate to the carrier or could we consider it part of the carriers body?

I'm not violent. Is abortion an act of violence? Against whom?

My girlfriend and I have had two miscarriages. I don't feel the loss was akin to a dying child- it was simply something that never lived. Did it die or was it simply never born?

I'm pro abortion when needed. I hate the misnomer 'pro choice' which trivialises the issue. Its more than a matter of personal autonomy. I hate pro life; show me a fetus living autonomously and I might call it alive.

A sane society allows conditional abortion IMO. The last thing we need is more unwanted humans suffering pointlessly.
 
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Just thought it was interesting that the woman that had such a pivotal role in making abortion legal became pro-life.
i thought it was pretty common knowledge that she had had a change of heart...

If you don't like the article or find interesting don't read it.
so snippy!

how would i know if the article was not to my liking or not interesting without reading it? :)

alasdair
 
I agree it's tricky and while abortion is ugly, well- I'm also afraid it gives incentive to fuck up, because you have that safety net- to be careless, and not fully committed. Shallow. It reflects deeper issues, and perhaps allows more. I'm torn.

As for the autonomous comment- nobody is ever autonomous, as in fully standing alone. After a baby is born it is completely dependant on parental figures - mainly it's mother, for many years. There is also evidence that the baby is more than lifeless tissue in the womb. At birth they can differentiate between the language their mother spoke and foreign languages. We are a lot more than we know- there is more to us (and in ways, less than we might claim- such as how "independent and free" we are, and I'm sure we've made things more complex than they need to be(?), to good and bad 'end')...

Like I said, I think we need to recognize (I said change, but this fits better) our values better. I'm not sure that would have been possible in my case without experiencing the sin, though. So perhaps direct legislation against isn't the way-- but it should be discouraged, as with many things, and we should seek to find better ways (modesty... Instilling better reward-pathways- not sure about the language right now... self-esteem/health), to conduct ourselves.
 
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What 23 - are you for increased comprehensive sex education and utilisation of all forms of contraception? (of which abortion is not one, so please kindly do not make statements like 'gives incentive to fuck up', because it just isn't true)
 
Incentive was the wrong word to use. It allows them to. They know they can "go back", so they allow themselves to do things that should require full commitment (at their best), without fully committing.

I think we as a society have a lot of changing to do to get to where we need to be. Not meaning contraceptives, or birth control, but more in the area self-realization/control, if we can.
 
It's too bad the pressure got to her and she became mentally ill. What she and the movement did for women and America should never be forgotten. Trump and all these fascist scumbags want to destroy these laws so women and children will die and suffer, they jack off at forcing women to give birth all because of what they believe a fairy tale book says.

If by "became mentally ill" you mean her conscious finally got to her then yeah. I'm not a Trump fan or religious but I am pro-life. It's funny that you talk about women and children dying and suffering when that's exactly what abortion causes.

I have a headache from rolling my eyes so much at this tripe but because I hate myself I read some of the comments at the source. You don't like abortion? Fine, don't get one. What's that, you're a man and can't get pregnant? Shut your fucking mouth cunt.

Any argument with a prolifer will eventually boil down to 'if you don't want to get pregnant, keep your legs closed'. It's the Godwin's law of reproductive rights arguments.

If you believe in equal rights then surely a man should have a say if the baby lives or dies then?

I thought it was common knowledge that "Jane Roe" became pro-life years ago.

I wasn't aware until I saw the article I posted on my FB feed.

I agree that men "should" have a say, but ultimately, its growing in the woman. Her body, her choice. I cant see any other way. But I dislike how men are being relegated to inconsequentiality in matters of child rearing. However, there is some evidence to suggest male humans did not really evolve parenting traits. Any contribution is largely unimportant. Even resource gathering, in males, is more about securing mates rather than providing.

But it's not just her body at that point. And where is this evidence to suggest males didn't evolve parenting traits? There's plenty of single dads out there that raise their kids better than the mom was able to. We're not cavemen anymore.

I'm not violent. Is abortion an act of violence? Against whom?

The baby, and some would argue the woman. There's a lot of women that have abortions and later regret it and are traumatized. The ones who treat abortion as a form of birth control are just sociopaths.

My girlfriend and I have had two miscarriages. I don't feel the loss was akin to a dying child- it was simply something that never lived. Did it die or was it simply never born?

Miscarriage is a bit different than an abortion tho.

I'm pro abortion when needed. I hate the misnomer 'pro choice' which trivialises the issue. Its more than a matter of personal autonomy. I hate pro life; show me a fetus living autonomously and I might call it alive.

Why does something need to live autonomously to be considered alive? And what about the cases of the infant being born alive only to be killed by the abortionist?
 
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So that's a no then.

I'm more talking about my ideal . Birth control definitely isn't. Teaching values may be, and I don't mean that in some cliche sense- of "boring", but what is truly valuable and why (if possible teach better). Education yes. Birth control in any form but self control- not a fan, and would like to have a society where it wasn't needed. I've seen how it changes women, and condoms just don't feel real.
 
I was talking about pregnant women obviously. 8( But as much as I don't like Trump I do agree with defunding Planned Parenthood. It would be hard to claim to be pro-choice if I didn't.
 
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a little consistency on the part of these lawmakers would be lovely.

But as much as I don't like Trump I do agree with defunding Planned Parenthood.

as i am sure you must know, planned parenthood does an awful lot more than perform abortions. are you for totally defunding it or only ensuring that no federal money is spent on abortions? if it's the latter then you are in luck as that's already happened (the hyde amendment from 1976, with exceptions). that said, what actually happens at the state level can differ.

related (from yesterday): House votes to permanently ban taxpayer funds for abortion

The House passed legislation on Tuesday that would permanently codify existing law banning the use of federal funds for abortion services.

Lawmakers approved the measure largely along party lines, with three Democrats joining Republicans in the 238-183 vote.

The legislation, written by Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), would also permanently prohibit the District of Columbia from using its local funds approved by Congress for abortion services.

alasdair
 
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