5-MeO-MiPT - First Time - We all have our crosses to bear

[subdefy]

Dose: 16mg
Substance: 5-MeO-MiPT in an OO gelcap
Previous Psychedelic Exp: 4-HO-MiPT, Mushrooms, LSD, Cannabis, 2C-B, 2C-E, 2C-T-7, N2O, Ketamine, and DXM
Setting: Art Exhibit and Downtown LA

For this trip I had been planning on taking something and going to check out this "Ecstasy: Altered States" exhibit that was up in the Geffen Contemporary in LA. Here is a picture of one of the pieces:

I was with another person who I will call A who was driving to the museum. We arrived at the museum which from now on I will refer to as the MOCA. From there we had dosed about 20 minutes before arriving since we figured it would take at least 30 minutes to kick in with a low to empty stomache. As we got into the MOCA we got our sticker and proceeded to a quiet reading room where no one was and there were a collection of art / psychedelic books complete with bean bags. It seemed a perfect room to comeup in as no one was in there and if they came in it was for a short period of time. After being in the room for about 15 minutes I could feel the comeup, I could gradually feel it coming on. There was no nausea but lots of cold and "normal" flashes. My friend "A" noted this aswell. We ended up hanging in this reading room for about 30 minutes before going out to view the exhibit. As we wandered from area to area the already psychedelic exhibit turned more whacky. I noticied the visuals tended to be very LSD-esque with patterns coming off paintings and doing some sort of twirling. Eventually after contemplating the meaning of all the paintings and nearing the end of the exhibit I got some synesthesia of hot chocolate and then I immediately wanted it then. A note on viewing some of the paintings it really messed with distance such as looking behind you and then at a paiting it would seem alot further then it was, it also seemed to pop out and do some sort of movement reminded me of LSD more then anything.

So we finished up the exhibit which was well worth the $5 we paid. Then went on a search for starbucks. Walking out of the museum, A smoked a cigarette and we both commented on the feeling of while we entered downtown LA how it felt we could take on the world. As in nothing could stop us to top it off with my friends aviators I couldn't do anything but crack up while he walked with a cigarette he bummed off a random kid who was outside. During this time we were all around a federal building so we were surrounded but LAPD but there was zero paranoia.

Eventually I came across the destination which would serve me my current ultimate fantasy. I went in and ordered a hot chocolate, piece of coffee cake, and a free water. This combination would be the holy trinity to complete my taste buds. The hot chocolate took a surprisingly fast. This was probably the most I've ever enjoyed hot chocolate, water, and coffee cake this surpassed cannabis taste enhancement (when I enjoyed it). After sitting there and contemplating how LA was in comparasion to suburbia I realised (not that I didn't know beforehand) but once your there, your there no one too help you out or push you along. You either make it or your fucked. Then I was observing the people downtown and we were in the "little" towns such as little Japan and little Korea. It seems as though everyone has their "crosses to bear" to use a christian analogy. Their problems they face but persist regardless for what I questioned for the rest of the trip? To live but what happens after? It amounts to nothing (for the record I'm agnostic but extremely skeptical of anything metaphysical). Eventually after this we went back to the car to sit down and relax. We were mostly looking at this grafitti

It reminded me of Muhammad, the islamic prophet. After I stepped out of the car the trip "sparkle" seemed to have ended @ 6 hours when I was looking forward to more of 12 hours but I suppose that's how it worked out. However A's trip was still going.

We went downtown and ended up going over to the US Bank building since my friend wanted to see where the film Swordfish was filmed in LA. Before checking that out we rested a little and gave a homeless guy there a dollar each and asked him what's around here and what the prices are. Where to score and whatnot just out of pure curiosity. After that we decided to go to get some dinner at California Pizza Kitchen and order a small cheese pizza. By this time I was more or less comedown.

That pretty much sums up 5-MeO-MiPT. In short I could act normal on it quite easily and it was alot of fun! There were no negative effects for me or my friend except for the comeup which is a small price to pay for the experience. This def. ranks up there with some of my favorite psychedelics I'll be trying this one again at a higher dose since I'm interested to see where the visuals go.

 

[Jamshyd]

Thanks for the report, and the pics - very interesting!

5-MeO-MiPT is one of my more well-liked psychedelics. I find it very unique in that it has no plateau or peak - the entire trip seems to be made up of a come-up fading into a return to baseline (so a constant ++ on a shulgin scale), which I personally find very useful.

I do think, though, that your dose is quite high. I find that less than 10mg is more than enough for me.

 

[Cat Again]

Sub, why did you decide to go with such a high dose on your first try?
I have tried 5 meo mipt a number of times ranging between 8-14mg. That strangest thing is i had my most intense experience off my last 8mg trip. Which turned out to be extremely visual, lots of confusion and vomiting that made me think i might have taken 5 meo amt (even though i was sure this was 5 meo mipt).
Now i cant explain why the 8mg trip was so much stronger than the others, but it was (my other 8mg trips were all very reminiscent of 5 meo dipt except the mipt had a better high and perhaps more euphoria than the dipt)

Also, i saw the exhibit in MOCA when i was in LA a month ago, sadly i wasnt tripping there but it was amazing non-the-less.

 

[subdefy]

Well I decided to dose that high b/c I've heard there isn't too much visual activity in lower doses and I saw no need for concern. I had water and benzos if anything happened. It seems as though tryptamines have a far greater safety record then phenethylamines.

I've heard in those low doses it's more similar to rolling and less psychedelic. I wanted something more psychedelic, it was infact actually exactly what I was looking for but I wasn't expecting it.

 

[illusion25]

hey subdefy how do you compare 5meomipt to other chemicals you have tried. I am interested intrying 4acomipt or 4hodipt or some other tryptamine chemical but i cant make up my mind. any advise or comparisons for 5meomipt to 2ce? i might just go with dpt if i cant make up my mind on any other tryp. chem.

any sugesstions?comparisons? pm me if you could. or anyone pm if they can compare some of these tryptamines to phens. i just cant decide which chem i want to explore next.

dpt and 2ce are for sure......but i want maybe 1-3 more tryptamine chemicals ...any other ones worth it?

thanks alot

 

[subdefy]

2C-E is alot more neutral, 5-MeO-MiPT has a more positive push it seems although I just recently tripped on 2C-T-7 @ 60mg and was blasting some random Japanese Death Metal but I could see through the entire thing, now I don't usually listen to Japanese Death Metal but I have some random genres on here for tripping. the 2C's also seem to mess with my hearing alot esp. 2C-B and distance. 2C-E is a much stronger trip while 5-MeO-MiPT is much more "fun." I've tried 2C-E at 18mg and 20mg and had an uncomfortable time on the second one due to bad planning and outside interferences (tv) messing up the trip.

5-MeO-MiPT is quite unique from anything else I tried although the visuals reminded me of LSD and 2C-E.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

Ive tried a good two dozen different psychedelics, about half indole/tryptamines and the rest in the PEA family. I think they are about as different as apples and carrots.

It's always good to ask questions, but for the love of God, but when it comes to these exotic, synthetic psychedelics....please base your decision by reading EVERY trip report available at Bluelight and Erowid, and all of the Big and Dandy threads, and don't just be a lazy ass and ask strangers on Bluelight to PM you an answer. You will get much more information from reading a thread made up by dozens of people, and all the trip reports around, than just by asking a few folks to "PM" you.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

You know I usually don't go this far to be abrasive to people, but as I said above...if you are thinking of taking something like DPT or 2C-E then you damn sure need to read every thread at bluelight and erowid that exists on them. And I've got to say, if you have read all of that....I fail to see how one could not have already made up their mind as to which one sounds right for them. And if you are not able to make up your mind, then you probably should just avoid them all together.

I mean even within the same family, there are huge differences. 5-MeO-DMT and 5-MeO-DALT may sound similar, but the kinds of trips they produce are worlds apart. Same with 5-MeO-MiPT and DPT. And reading those reports would make you aware of all of these find points.

Taking a "research chemical" is not like selecting a mango smoothie over a blueberry. And I don't know your intentions, but from the sound of it, I don't think you will be able to be truthful and say you have read everything there is to find.

I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just tired of people not realizing the seriousness of what some of these things (like 5-MeO-DMT, DPT and 2C-E) are and represent. These are not recreational drugs and need to be approached very cautiously. And again, if you are still at the stage where you are asking what the difference between 5-MeO-MiPT and 2C-E is, then please hold up on that order!

 

[illusion25]

i have done a dozen rc's already and read tons of reports. i was just asking which rc he prefered and any sugeestions or comparisons.
i realize and KNow that each rc is uniquie and different. i was just asking for advice. damn chill out dude

this IS a forum for people to communicate and exchange ideas....i just wanted opinions.
reading reports are alot different than the actual trip...and i was just wanting some opinions of others.......maybe it is annoying for you to have people ask opinions morningglory , but this is why i use this forum.
chill out

 

[subdefy]

I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just tired of people not realizing the seriousness of what some of these things (like 5-MeO-DMT, DPT and 2C-E) are and represent. These are not recreational drugs and need to be approached very cautiously. And again, if you are still at the stage where you are asking what the difference between 5-MeO-MiPT and 2C-E is, then please hold up on that order!

So your saying LSD can be approached less cautiously? I fail to see what is not recreational about these "experimental psychedelic compounds." I use them for recreation, I do not use them for any sort of spiritual means as I believe that would be a self-deluding ideal.

Basically what morninggloryseed said was you should thoroughly research what your want to take but it seems as though illusion was merely asking what my opinion was on this compound in comparasion to others.

Also you derail the thread but no comment on the actual report For shame!

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I totally agree that this forum is for exchanging ideas and opinions. I have learned a wealth of knowledge myself from BL, and I am grateful for it.

However, you clearly are asking someone to decide something for you that you should be able to decide for yourself. Now maybe I am just Allah's best creation, because I have never managed to be in the situation where I had to resort to asking someone to specifically explain to me what the differences between 5-MeO-MiPT and 2C-E, or if something is "worth it." Nor have I ever needed to ask anyone to PM me about what psychedelic I should take, because I couldn't make up my own mind.

What topped it off for me is the, "oh well if I can't decide I think I will just go with DPT."

DPT is a pretty damn hardcore psychedelic....not the kind of thing I'd recommend taking simply because you couldn't decide on anything else. I strongly recommend you not obtain any of these until you have read enough to know for sure what you want to do.

I mean, if you had at least one specific question about a substance (I consider asking 'what does this do' to be a rather general question, not something specific), then I'd believe you had actually done some research. But from the questions you asked, it sounds like you just found out about these psychedelics just a few minutes before you posted the thread.

Can you honestly say you have read EVERY trip report on DPT, 2C-E, and 5-MeO-MiPT? What about the Big and Dandy threads? If you haven't, then why not? ANd if you have, and still require someone to explain how 2C-E and 5-MeO-MiPT differ from each other, then I think you have more problems going on then simple indecision. If that is the case, then you are best off not messing with the chems at all....at least until you have read enough to be able to describe some of the differences yourself.

Yes, reading a trip report is a lot different then the actual trip. But so is asking for a PM on "which one is worth it.'

I mean, what does "worth it" even mean? That is a very vague term, don't you think? I find 2C-T-7 the mother of all bliss, but others may feel it was not "worth it" to them because of the vomiting. Unless the person PMing you is going to take an hour to compose an epic write-up contrasting and comparing each of the chemicals you list...you will get much LESS information than if you had actually made the effort to read all of the trip reports yourself.

It is not a matter of me being "chilled out" or not. As a matter of fact, I was quite calm when I wrote this. Rather, it is a matter of me feelings that taking psychedelic drugs is not like walking into a 7-11 and contrasting and comparing buying a Snickers bar over a Mounds. It is serious business and anyone thinking of doing it needs to be well educated about them.

But from the way you worded your question (and ending with, 'oh well I'll just get DPT if I can't decide') it sounds to me that at this point you are not taking it any more seriously than if you were trying to decide on two candy bar.

I'm sorry if you are insulted by what I say, but I've had enough people write me and thank me for helping them out, that I feel good about what I do. I wrote what I wrote, not to insult you, but to (hopefully) make you aware that this is serious business and not something to approach casually.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

So your saying LSD can be approached less cautiously? I fail to see what is not recreational about these "experimental psychedelic compounds." I use them for recreation, I do not use them for any sort of spiritual means as I believe that would be a self-deluding ideal.

Basically what morninggloryseed said was you should thoroughly research what your want to take but it seems as though illusion was merely asking what my opinion was on this compound in comparasion to others.

Also you derail the thread but no comment on the actual report For shame!

I never mentioned LSD once, so why are you bringing that up? I don't think a person should use any drug without fully researching it.

When I say they (experimental psychedelics) should not be used in a recreational fashion, I mean they should not be approached in the way casual manor that most folks would with a joint at a party, or drinking a beer with dinner. There is nothing casual about them. It is serious business to take untested, pure psychedelic compounds, and people need to approach them that way.

I am not telling you, or anyone, that these chemicals should only be used in a sacramental manor. I said nothing about only using 5-MeO-MiPT, DPT, or any chemical, as a spiritual/mystical aid. I don't believe in defining for others why they should take psychedelics. I just insist that people approach them wisely, after learning all they can about them.

PS...It was a great report on the Geffen Contemporary museum. Oh, and you had a very descriptive paragraph about what you had ordered at Starbucks. But as far as being an informative psychedelic trip report, it didn't make my top ten that is for sure. To me, a good trip report is when the primary focus is about the effects produced by the drug in question, not the museum you took it in, and what you ate afterwards.

As a psychedelic trip report, I just didn't think it was very good at all. I said nothing about your report because there was absolutely no information at all into the nature of 5-MeO-MiPT, other than it had "LSD-esque" visuals for you. I lerned absolutely nothing new about the nature of 5-MeO-MiPT. This was report on the Geffen Contemporary museum, in which you just happened to have taken 5-MeO-MiPT.

To be honest, I feel you are very foolish for taking a drug new to you in an uncontrolled, public setting. And at such a high dosage. For shame! There are enough horror stories out there, that you should know better. But I will admit I have done that in the past (my first 2C-T-2 trip comes to mind). But I've since changed my ways, and never take a drug I am unfamiliar with in public. I hope you eventually learn better yourself.

 

[subdefy]

From everything I've read on it and everyone I've talked to, it's an extremely easy to handle trip with little side effects as I noticied aswell. 5-MeO-MiPT assumig you have tried it is simply unique. How should I have better described it? The museum was actually somewhat controlled contrary to what you stated. There was a reading room with beanbags that was closed off from the museum which no one was in for more then 5 seconds at a max not to mention there were parks and a library in close proximity.

The visuals were just as LSD was that is how they were I have no other way to describe them. It made everything standout more, more intrinsicite. I added in a conclusion to attempt to sum it up but you can only write so much on the drug aspect. It's like trying to describe "Nothing"? How would you suggest describing "Nothing"?

I mentioned LSD since it is excluded from the experimentals. I guess your definition of recreation is alot more narrow then mine. I would say 2C-T-2 is in an entirely different "foolish" league then 5-MeO-MiPT as I've yet to hear of any idosyncratic reactions from the way I dosed it yet with the information on 2C-T-2 there have been severe reports.

 

[nanobrain]

I would say 2C-T-2 is in an entirely different "foolish" league then 5-MeO-MiPT as I've yet to hear of any idosyncratic reactions from the way I dosed it yet with the information on 2C-T-2 there have been severe reports.

then you have not read carefully. 5-MeO-MiPT is a very hard pcychedelic with an exponential d/r curve and can cause an ass whooping at a much lesser dose than your first time dive which i will point out is an overdose for most..

 

[Morninggloryseed]

5-MeO-MiPT assumig you have tried it is simply unique. How should I have better described it?

I have not yet sampled it, though it is on the to-do list and one day I will finally get to it.

The museum was actually somewhat controlled contrary to what you stated. There was a reading room with beanbags that was closed off from the museum which no one was in for more then 5 seconds at a max not to mention there were parks and a library in close proximity.

I have never been to the museum, and do not recall describing it. What I said is that it is unwise to take psychedelics (or any drug) you are unfamiliar with in an uncontrolled setting. An uncontrolled setting can be considered a place in which one does not have direct control over who is present, or what happens there…such as a concert hall or museum. Being in an uncontrolled setting while on an unfamiliar psychedelic is just a recipe for a disaster, and plenty have illustrated this point over the years.

While it seems the exhibit was rather quiet when you went, you said you dosed twenty minutes before you arrived. For all you knew, there might have been a few hundred people there. You lucked out, and everything was fine…but in an uncontrolled setting, anything is possible. It does not change the fact that it is foolish to take a new psychedelic (at many times the recommended dosage) in such a setting.

I added in a conclusion to attempt to sum it up but you can only write so much on the drug aspect. It is like trying to describe "Nothing"? How would you suggest describing "Nothing"?

I do not know exactly what you are asking. Do you want me to tell you how to write a trip report on 5-MeO-MiPT? Your writing style is fairly descriptive; but you only included details about the museum, and not the psychedelic you took. It is far from easy to describe the psychedelic experience in depth, but it has been done.

In addition to having written a number of well-received trip reports myself, I also read/edit/approve trip reports for Erowid. Therefore, I am pretty familiar with the concept. Moreover, I just re-read a few good ones on 5-MeO-MiPT as well, so they do exist.

I would say 2C-T-2 is in an entirely different "foolish" league then 5-MeO-MiPT as I have yet to hear of any idiosyncratic reactions from the way I dosed it yet with the information on 2C-T-2 there have been severe reports.

Out of over 90 reports on 2C-T-2 at Erowid, there are six defined as “Health Problems” and three defined as “Train Wrecks.” At a quick glance…the reports that do list health problems at Erowid seem to all involve people snorting huge over-dosages of the drug. Add to that the papers, Preliminary Results with New Psychoactive Agents 2C-T-2 AND 2C-T-7 and Sulfurous Samadhi, lack of negative reports from Holland (where it was commercially distributed in the late ‘90s), and the wealth of anecdotal information available in web forum; I just do not see what these ‘severe reports’ on 2C-T-2 are. Nor do I see where they are, or how you came to that conclusion. Overall, it seems to have a fair safety record based on the available information. Maybe you are confusing it with 2C-T-7?

On the other hand, there are 17 reports on 5-MeO-MiPT at Erowid, and about three of them involve some physical health concerns or “psychotic” incidents. In addition, of the three I looked at, all were with oral dosages in the same ballpark as what you took. So that is not much to go on, but it is still a higher percentage of negative reports as compared to 2C-T-2.

It involves a smaller sample of people, but lack of evidence for something is not the same thing as evidence for something. And considering these reported negative reactions all involved oral dosages, in the same ballpark as what you took, I don’t think you came to a very sound conclusion at all when you stated 2C-T-2 is in an entirely different "foolish" league then 5-MeO-MiPT (unless you meant to say 5-MeO-MiPT is the more “foolish” one.)

You might not yet have heard of any idiosyncratic reactions yet with it, but they are right there on the front page of the experience vault for 5-MeO-MiPT. I do not know how you could have missed it.

All of that aside, there simply is not yet enough information (good or bad) to make any assumptions about it. There is certainly not enough information to assume that it safe to take quadruple the dosage recommended by the inventor, and then just stroll into a museum. Even if there were 365 reports on 5-MeO-MiPT, it is still very foolish to take such a high dosage of a drug you are unfamiliar with, and then venture out into public.

As for my personal history with 2C-T-2, it began back in early 2000. I was a member of the “PRC” which was a private research group that independently evaluated psychedelics (sometimes provided free of charge graciously by a chemist who was one of the group’s founders). A condition for joining the group was an agreement to write up any experiment results, and share the information with the rest of the group.

All materials came with a certificate of authenticity provided by an independent laboratory that analyzed all samples provided by the chemist. It was a neat time. Nothing like today where the only way to get these things is from common drug dealers who just happen to operate a website to distribute their wares. Now it seems the drugs are often mixed up, and sometimes adulterated. 

Anyway, I took 20mg (well within the recommended dosage given by its inventor) and once the peak leveled out, a friend drove me to a classical guitar concert. Looking back, I consider my actions foolish because no one can know or predict how they will react to a particular psychedelic, especially in an uncontrolled setting. Even if it is (seemingly) after the peak.

When I first took 2C-T-2, there were only a few reports at Erowid. I did have Preliminary Results with New Psychoactive Agents 2C-T-2 AND 2C-T-7, a formal survey and documentation on forty 2C-T-2 users. In addition, I had access to extensive information available from my discussion group. In addition, I was/am lucky enough to have two Dutch friends who had experience with the drug. But it still doesn't make my decision a smart one.

I guess I was naive back then since nothing I had read was negative.
This was well before these drugs started being distributed in large quantities to every Thom, Dick, and Harry with a credit card. In addition, this was well before the infamous 2C-T-7 deaths.

Nevertheless, I have since wised up, and there are few psychedelics I would ever take in public. Moreover, I would only take one in public that is very familiar to me.

I wanted to avoid getting into a “you are a bigger idiot than I am” type of discussion, but this all gets back to what I said about casual/recreational psychedelic use (and again, this has nothing to do with just using them for spiritual purposes VS enhancing a concert) and why it should be avoided.

When you ate the 5-MeO-MiPT, did you know of the negative reports at Erowid involving dosages taken orally that were similar to what you took? If you did not, then you should not have been messing with it in the first place. And if you did, then…well…all I will say is you use very bad judgment.

I am not trying to insult you, just hoping to knock some sense into your head so you do not repeat this, nor influence others to follow you. I have made some foolish decisions in the past with psychedelics myself, but I have recognized the foolishness of my actions and will not repeat. Based on this thread, you exemplify those who approach psychedelics with casual, and (in my opinion) reckless intentions. And you exemplify those who are best off leaving these drugs alone until you learn better.

This is what I am trying to get illusion25 to avoid becoming. You are seemingly the last person anyone should be PMing for information on "research chemicals." You are a reason why people like illusion25 should only decide on taking these drugs after they have done thorough, exhaustive research themselves. A PM from someone who demonstrates reckless, foolish, and irresponsible decision-making habits is the worst kind of advice a person could seek out.

Illusion25, I hope if you are reading this, you can better see where I am coming from, in my address to you.

 

[subdefy]

You might not yet have heard of any idiosyncratic reactions yet with it, but they are right there on the front page of the experience vault for 5-MeO-MiPT. I do not know how you could have missed it.

I did not miss it, I just noted that it was usually a result of irresponsibility in combining it with other drugs. None the less I was taking erowid into account with anecdotal experience reports of friends and acquantinces which led me to believe it was quite clear headed and far less prone to negative body effects then the PEAs.

Maybe it was "irresponsible" for going out into public but there seems to not have been any problems. I have "researched" these drugs as much as I possibly can, why did I dose that high then? I was looking for an actual "trip" as opposed to some minor mood enhancements. I use these psychedelics usually once every few months so I would rather not be dissappointed for setting aside an entire day to trip and end up with a minor mood enhancement. I was speaking to a few individuals who had dosed in a similar range that I dosed and a few of their acquatinces dosed just as high with no problems.

Sure there could've been an idosyncratic reaction and I could've flipped out that's why I told my friend where the benzo(s) were and he could easily restrain me given that I started to "freak" out and could've held down my mouth and put in the nordiazepam powder. I knew that there was this chance occurance so this was my failsafe. The same would've happened at the hospital although they would have injected something as opposed to waiting for it to kick in.

Perhaps I am confusing 2C-T-2 with 2C-T-7.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

>Maybe it was "irresponsible"
>for going out into public

It is good you display the ability to learn from mistakes.

>why did I dose that high then? I was looking for
>an actual "trip" as opposed to some minor mood
>enhancements. I use these psychedelics usually
>once every few months so I would rather not
>be dissappointed for setting aside an entire day
>to trip and end up with a minor mood enhancement.

Yes, and that's fine. Except is a museum really the best place to trip hard on a drug new to you? THis is exactly what I mean by being a responsible user, or in this case, a very unresponsible user. I just hope you don't send out to many PMs of advice, because you seem like bottom of the barrel when it comes to who is probably going to give the best advice.

>Sure there could've been an idosyncratic reaction
>and I could've flipped out that's why I told my friend
>where the benzo(s) were and he could easily restrain
>me given that I started to "freak" out and could've
>held down my mouth and put in the nordiazepam
>powder. I knew that there was this chance occurance
>so this was my failsafe.

Yeah, but you were in a museum. Please think about this for a second. You are in a public place, and your 'failsafe' is having your friend restrain you and put some mysterious white powder down your throat. This has to look good, and is sure to avoid you getting into trouble!

 

[subdefy]

I'm sure he would've dragged me off to some sort of private place, he's not that stupid. I'm not a "big" guy and it would not take much effort for him to move me. The citizens of LA seem to not care too much about anyone else but rather themselves so I doubt anyone would express much concern. All he would have to do would be drag me into the bathroom and from there do what was neccessary to calm me.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I'm sure your friend dragging out of a museum would not attract any attention at all. I guess you had it all figured out all along. I'm just glad these things are in the hands of smart guys like you.

I give up!

 

[subdefy]

Yeah...Sarcasm works great to help out harm reduction 8(