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5-MeO-DMT - First Time - When The Universe Is Ready For You (Second Hand Report)

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I had mentioned this experience here...

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...ond-Launch?p=11559342&viewfull=1#post11559342

My friend was able to write this up...so we can understand the experience from his perspective....

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5/11/13
Material: 5-MeO-DMT
Dosage: 10mg (vaporized)

Preface: It was everything I could have hoped it could be, and nothing I could have ever expected.

Introduction: My soul had been growing ever more restless as my life was beginning to pull back together. The universe has ways of letting you know you are on the right track; whether it’s little bits thrown at you, clever remarks thrown your way from random donors, or that weird comfortably familiar feeling that you are meant to be here in this exact space at this exact time. Whatever it may be, I was certainly getting my taste of the universe’s interest of my being.

A good friend of mine, who I will refer to as Pete, told me one day that he knew someone interested in meeting me. He had told me previously that this friend was very much into rare and exotic hallucinogens, and I was very excited. I had numerous mushroom and LSD trips under my belt, however neither of those wonderful substances ever to satisfy my hunger for the psychedelics. The only seemed to prepare me for the journey I did not realize I would soon take.

At this point in my life, I was beginning to bloom. I had lefty my darkened, depressed stage behind, and for the most part, have been turning into more and more of a hippy every day. I had recently decided upon joining a homesteading community, a commune if you will, and would be throwing myself firmly into life in just a month or two. Being raised in a mainly conservative household, this was a huge step for me, but it feels right.

So yes, of course I wanted to meet this mystery man and his magic shaving kit. Pete and I eventually make it to meet this mystery man, Shaman as he shall be called from this point, and we met at his home where he was relaxing with his friend, Buddy. Shaking hands with Shaman, I did not realize at the time that two kindred souls were reuniting and we both soon found out his path needed to cross mine as much as mine needed to cross his. This is yet another wonderful sign from the universe.
After a few hours of riveting conversation, and refreshing intelligence I had not known for a while, it was becoming clear to me that Shaman was to be my spiritual guide. It became even more obvious when Pete had to leave and Shaman asked if I would like to stay. “Yes!” No way was I going to pass up what I was hoping to be the journey of a lifetime.

The Experience:

Sitting in Shaman’s space with him, Buddy, I felt right, I felt like I belonged there. Then it happened, Shaman offered me my journey in the form of 5-MeO-DMT. No pressure, he assures me that it was there if I was ready for it. I had heard plenty about DMT, but had only a slight clue of what 5-MeO-DMT was about from what Pete had told me. I excitingly accepted Shaman’s offer, but remained a bit trepid, knowing this was not to be taken lightly. He had a few rituals to perform, familiarizing me with the vehicle to the cosmos, cleansing the air, sending prayers to heaven, giving me the mantra (Breathe), that sort of thing. After I inquired about his experiences taking and administering 5-MeO-DMT, he assured me many times I would be alright, and that he was ready and qualified to share this with me. Shaman dimmed the lights, loaded that sweet 10mg into the pipe and it was time to go.

With sweet soothing sounds playing and only the glow from the stereo in the room, Shaman and I sat cross-legged on the floor across from each other, Buddy off to the side, every bit a part of this journey as us two. The pipe was lit, a long harsh draw that I fully inhaled and held in. Almost immediately my vision was assaulted by blocks floating in from the side of my vision and situating themselves in front of my eyes. Suddenly they disappeared and a great wall of multicolored rays of light came rushing in to meet me…and then the darkness.

I was lost, and didn’t know it. My soul had left my body and it was nowhere to be found. I’ve tried my hardest to recall that blackness, to try and remember if anything was to be found in it, but it was impenetrable and I recall absolutely nothing. Then I was abruptly thrown out of the “Moment of Darkness” as Shaman would later call it. My body was in a fit and I saw myself vomiting into my own lap (which thankfully Shaman seemed to stop before my body followed the act I saw in my mind) and then Shaman grabbed my knee and said, “Breathe” which had been my mantra going into this. Dozens of voices erupted around me, also telling me to breathe as if the spirits were guiding me along with my Shaman. After a series of intense, off-beat breaths, which were a battle, a test of my willpower…a test I was not going to fail.

A sudden calmness hits me. I remember feeling extremely hot, and as I took my shirt off, a cool breeze washed over me. As I laid my body to ground, I knew that there could have been no other outcome to that trial. This was what my soul had been longing for and this is exactly where I needed to be. For the first time in my life, everything was at peace. I was truly home, melted into the universe. The breeze grew and grew I had just tasted the Universe in its most raw, unadulterated form. However, all I could utter was, “Holy Shit!” Then Shaman replied, “Thank you!” The spirits around us all agreed, and replied “Thank you” with Shaman; then I joined them all and uttered “Thank you!” At some point I had grabbed my Shamans wrist and I didn’t want to let go, to let go, to leave home. Eventually the breeze subsided and I sat up and muttered, “I’m back.” I was humbled, terrified, ecstatic, and a million other feelings that I cannot even begin to describe. God, The Universe, The Great Spirit, call it what you will, it had taken an interest to me, and laid it out crystal clear that I was on the correct path. Still, I was rattled and there was nothing that could have prepared me for that.

The most profound lesson I took away from that experience was my Shaman assuring me that I could reach that place by sheer will, and that he does all the time. He told me it’s inside each and every one of us, it just needs to be practiced and honed like every other talent in life. All of this was told as we were sitting outside after the journey as I was still trying to piece it all back together and had just starting coming to grips with what happened, and it all hit me in a VERY profound way.

Life has a funny way of giving us exactly what we need, when we need it most. Out of it, beauty is to be had. Around a week later, as I write this, I know Shaman and I were meant to cross each other’s paths. We are, as he puts it, “Mirrors to see ourselves and reflect one another.” I know full well that my soul had been crying out to find this kindred spirit for quite some time. As I throw myself out to life, after acknowledging The Universe, and being acknowledged back, I have fill faith it will take me exactly where I need to be.
 
I had mentioned this experience here...

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...ond-Launch?p=11559342&viewfull=1#post11559342

My friend was able to write this up...so we can understand the experience from his perspective....

_______________________________________________________________________________________


5/11/13
Material: 5-MeO-DMT
Dosage: 10mg (vaporized)

Preface: It was everything I could have hoped it could be, and nothing I could have ever expected.

Introduction: My soul had been growing ever more restless as my life was beginning to pull back together. The universe has ways of letting you know you are on the right track; whether it’s little bits thrown at you, clever remarks thrown your way from random donors, or that weird comfortably familiar feeling that you are meant to be here in this exact space at this exact time. Whatever it may be, I was certainly getting my taste of the universe’s interest of my being.

A good friend of mine, who I will refer to as Pete, told me one day that he knew someone interested in meeting me. He had told me previously that this friend was very much into rare and exotic hallucinogens, and I was very excited. I had numerous mushroom and LSD trips under my belt, however neither of those wonderful substances ever to satisfy my hunger for the psychedelics. The only seemed to prepare me for the journey I did not realize I would soon take.

At this point in my life, I was beginning to bloom. I had lefty my darkened, depressed stage behind, and for the most part, have been turning into more and more of a hippy every day. I had recently decided upon joining a homesteading community, a commune if you will, and would be throwing myself firmly into life in just a month or two. Being raised in a mainly conservative household, this was a huge step for me, but it feels right.

So yes, of course I wanted to meet this mystery man and his magic shaving kit. Pete and I eventually make it to meet this mystery man, Shaman as he shall be called from this point, and we met at his home where he was relaxing with his friend, Buddy. Shaking hands with Shaman, I did not realize at the time that two kindred souls were reuniting and we both soon found out his path needed to cross mine as much as mine needed to cross his. This is yet another wonderful sign from the universe.
After a few hours of riveting conversation, and refreshing intelligence I had not known for a while, it was becoming clear to me that Shaman was to be my spiritual guide. It became even more obvious when Pete had to leave and Shaman asked if I would like to stay. “Yes!” No way was I going to pass up what I was hoping to be the journey of a lifetime.

The Experience:

Sitting in Shaman’s space with him, Buddy, I felt right, I felt like I belonged there. Then it happened, Shaman offered me my journey in the form of 5-MeO-DMT. No pressure, he assures me that it was there if I was ready for it. I had heard plenty about DMT, but had only a slight clue of what 5-MeO-DMT was about from what Pete had told me. I excitingly accepted Shaman’s offer, but remained a bit trepid, knowing this was not to be taken lightly. He had a few rituals to perform, familiarizing me with the vehicle to the cosmos, cleansing the air, sending prayers to heaven, giving me the mantra (Breathe), that sort of thing. After I inquired about his experiences taking and administering 5-MeO-DMT, he assured me many times I would be alright, and that he was ready and qualified to share this with me. Shaman dimmed the lights, loaded that sweet 10mg into the pipe and it was time to go.

With sweet soothing sounds playing and only the glow from the stereo in the room, Shaman and I sat cross-legged on the floor across from each other, Buddy off to the side, every bit a part of this journey as us two. The pipe was lit, a long harsh draw that I fully inhaled and held in. Almost immediately my vision was assaulted by blocks floating in from the side of my vision and situating themselves in front of my eyes. Suddenly they disappeared and a great wall of multicolored rays of light came rushing in to meet me…and then the darkness.

I was lost, and didn’t know it. My soul had left my body and it was nowhere to be found. I’ve tried my hardest to recall that blackness, to try and remember if anything was to be found in it, but it was impenetrable and I recall absolutely nothing. Then I was abruptly thrown out of the “Moment of Darkness” as Shaman would later call it. My body was in a fit and I saw myself vomiting into my own lap (which thankfully Shaman seemed to stop before my body followed the act I saw in my mind) and then Shaman grabbed my knee and said, “Breathe” which had been my mantra going into this. Dozens of voices erupted around me, also telling me to breathe as if the spirits were guiding me along with my Shaman. After a series of intense, off-beat breaths, which were a battle, a test of my willpower…a test I was not going to fail.

A sudden calmness hits me. I remember feeling extremely hot, and as I took my shirt off, a cool breeze washed over me. As I laid my body to ground, I knew that there could have been no other outcome to that trial. This was what my soul had been longing for and this is exactly where I needed to be. For the first time in my life, everything was at peace. I was truly home, melted into the universe. The breeze grew and grew I had just tasted the Universe in its most raw, unadulterated form. However, all I could utter was, “Holy Shit!” Then Shaman replied, “Thank you!” The spirits around us all agreed, and replied “Thank you” with Shaman; then I joined them all and uttered “Thank you!” At some point I had grabbed my Shamans wrist and I didn’t want to let go, to let go, to leave home. Eventually the breeze subsided and I sat up and muttered, “I’m back.” I was humbled, terrified, ecstatic, and a million other feelings that I cannot even begin to describe. God, The Universe, The Great Spirit, call it what you will, it had taken an interest to me, and laid it out crystal clear that I was on the correct path. Still, I was rattled and there was nothing that could have prepared me for that.

The most profound lesson I took away from that experience was my Shaman assuring me that I could reach that place by sheer will, and that he does all the time. He told me it’s inside each and every one of us, it just needs to be practiced and honed like every other talent in life. All of this was told as we were sitting outside after the journey as I was still trying to piece it all back together and had just starting coming to grips with what happened, and it all hit me in a VERY profound way.

Life has a funny way of giving us exactly what we need, when we need it most. Out of it, beauty is to be had. Around a week later, as I write this, I know Shaman and I were meant to cross each other’s paths. We are, as he puts it, “Mirrors to see ourselves and reflect one another.” I know full well that my soul had been crying out to find this kindred spirit for quite some time. As I throw myself out to life, after acknowledging The Universe, and being acknowledged back, I have fill faith it will take me exactly where I need to be.

beauitiful experiance and thank you for playing the part - however do not become someones 'spiritual guide' - point the way - which is - inside themselves and be there to learn from them and teach them just the same... be careful with shamanism - I used to call myself one - then I realized - that path is full of nothing but ridiculousness and insanity.
 
also MGS - what area of the world do you live in? have you ever been to any psychedelic trance gatherings - or a burn (burning man regional burns)? I think you would find them very enlightening ;)
 
Yeah Magicduck I hear ya. Some of the words he used would not be words I used....and certainly the whole event could be seen to be some casual meeting....I meet some stranger, he thinks I am a 'shaman' and 'spiritual guide' and there is the 5-MeO. I know how it looks, but we had been taking to our mutual friend about meeting for some time, and the night was anything but casual and the word CAREFUL was the main theme of the evening.

Regarding 'spiritual guide'....I see spirituality as a very personal thing....I am of Jewish background and see myself as a Bwiti Jew....and being of the universe...but I do not need to guide anyone because people who are seeking now come up to me automatically...no guiding needed on my part. That funny Universe...I sure love you.

I do not preach or tell people how to do things.... I 'point the way' and 'spread the knowledge' and 'show by example' and surround myself with wise people who WANT to learn, grow, experience so I can learn from them just the same. I don't see myself as any different from anybody else. I took the road I took to get here, and I am happy to share my story of 'along the way.'

Re: the Shaman title....

It was never anything I associated with myself, I did not grow up in the forest and have little knowledge of spirit plants. I liked to think of myself as a Western Psychedelic social worker but at a certain point when enough people who's opinions I really value and respect say YOU ARE that title, and you know you were the one who turned them on, and put psychedelics in a context that is still relevant to them today....then when you go out to CA and meet Shamans and they say you are....well like I said...it is a role others see me in and I am working hard to live up to those expectations and in my case, there is no ridiculousness or insanity....I've started meeting people so important to me that simply would not have come about any other way...so yeah...I really am learning to be comfortable with the title of Shaman and certainly to fit that role as others see me....because when I do fill that role important experiences happen to me and everyone around me. This path is good!

beauitiful experiance and thank you for playing the part - however do not become someones 'spiritual guide' - point the way - which is - inside themselves and be there to learn from them and teach them just the same... be careful with shamanism - I used to call myself one - then I realized - that path is full of nothing but ridiculousness and insanity.

Re: Gatherings...I've been to a number of Rainbow Gatherings. They are psychedelic gatherings and no money is needed, everything is traded or bartered...it makes it way more 'legit' to me than any other sort of gathering...even hanging out on the 'Farm' of the Grateful Dead their last two years was a JOKE compared to the Rainbow Gathering. I never wanted to go to burning man because paying money to bake in the desert was never appealing, I can camp in the desert for free...but certainly in hindsight I will look forward to one....once I am back on the west coast.
 
I have been to the rainbow gathering a few times... it is great but they are kind of old school.... I would encourage you to look into the 10 principles of burning man... one of them is 'decommidification' i.e. no money. It does cost money to get in, but thats because burns cost money to put on - no one makes any profit on it and you can find all the financial documents online on most of the regional burns websites.
http://www.burningman.com/whatisburningman/about_burningman/principles.html

the smaller regional ones are very magical and you will learn much.. and they are not all done in the desert, and some of them are cheap. if you are not on the west coast, are you on the east coast? Where are you in location to VA ?

you will realize once you attend a burn that the rainbow gathering is a JOKE compared to it ;) rather than a bunch of bummy hippies sitting around getting high for a month, then leaving and going back to society and rather than making a change for themselves, sitting and bumming off of everyone else, sleepin in the street ( i agree with them wage slavery sucks but there is more we can do than just bum) and pretending to be all high and mighty native american prophecy and such, (now i agree the rainbow gathering is a beauitiful thing - and i always have a great experiance - and there are tons of different types of ppl there i dont mean to sterotype) it is an amazing group of people exploring pure self-expression and freedom and experimenting in new frontiers of ancient forms of ritual and spiritual work. at the psytrance gatherings, they are literally generating enlighenment on a mass scale with some crystals, ritual, and music.

by the way, these are not just about camping or psychedelics... they are much more 'serious' than the rainbow gathering as far as spirituality goes...

as far as the psytrance gatherings go... they are different. they are combining modern day technology (music with a fast trance beat to induce a trance - with different forms of brainwave stimulation with different frequencies http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm - some of the artists do anyway - theres ones that make you feel love, sadness, fear, bliss, ones that clear your sinuses, release serotonin, etc.... this is the technological side, with ancient ritual... doing magick rituals to transform the entire crowd into brand new people to bring enlightenment.... i think you would find it very interesting.. to me, magick, shamanism, witchcraft, energy manipulation, whatever you want to call it is the same tool applied differently... it is a hammer, you can use it to smash up a window, or to build a house :-)

also may i send you something? check this out when you get a chance.. its very long... near 5 hrs, but give it at least 15-20 minutes and it may... suck you in ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YNdBpYh1eA (read: hermeticism and alchemy)

be careful and take it with a grain of salt... stuff can get tricky, and only those with complete purity of heart and soul and a strong and sound mind will make it out sane and alive....however once you emerge, you will understand something very ancient and important... which can be used to change the world once in the right hands...
 
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I'd normally keep my answers to a PM from (you, or anyone) private but since most of what was in the PM is here, I will put my response to it here as well...

I read everything and greatly appreciate the time you took. I will say my 'Rainbow' experience was not at all like how you make it out to be....I've been to two of them. What stuck me most was that only about half of who I saw were 'bum hippies' and the rest were 'regular' people, moms, grandmas, a 4th grade teacher (who was always sober).......neither time I went did I ever see overt drug use...i mean sure it was there....all around....but it wasn't in my face....not like at the Dead. I'll never forget the kids, and not even the tie-dyed ones...just regular kids. I suspect it varies from gathering to gathering but also probably it is what you make of it.

I think I knew that money only 'exists' to pay to get in at Burning Man...but I clearly forgot when thinking about it last night...thank you for reminding me. I do accept that Burning Man has to be all that people say...otherwise why would anyone go. I will make it a point to attend in the next 5 years, or sooner if there is some regional one close to me.
 
Thankyou for sharing your expierences with us! I too have been doing Dmt and Changa. Changa is a derivative of dmt but lasts longer, but not as intense.
I can only say with dmt it took me places I never could imagine going in my mind. I lost myself as well for awhile. Had two different "beings" in my trip. That were real but not. It makes sense to me. Sorry not that descriptive. But it is an amazing thing Dmt. It's not like acid or shrooms its more spiritual then anything I've ever done. Ill post more later after my next session.
 
Wow, that is one hell of an experience. I recently had the privilege to smoke DMT, and it was life altering, though not quite as fantastic as this trip here. Mine was more of an out of body experience, followed by an extreme amount of colors and shapes that I had never and could never imagine. I remember halfway through starting to become really anxious and nervous about what I was seeing, almost like my mind was not quite ready for it. Then a loud voice entered my mind that told me to "just let go" and from there everything got way too fast and then I came back. I feel like I probably just needed to go deeper, as I wouldn't call what happened to me a breakthrough. Would love to have an experience like this sometime though, that's amazing.
 
I am sure the last two posters know, but just for the sake of clarity, realize 5-MeO-DMT and DMT are actually very very different 'strange substances.' Their only relation (beyond the chemistry) is their name.
 
Thank you all for the kind words. To clear things up, "Shaman" is a symbolic title for the sake of the story. I call him my spiritual guide because he did guide me, rather skillfully, through the darkness that 5-MeO brought to me. Since then, we have learned tremendously from eachother, and its quite obvious the universe brought us together for a reason. He never once told me how I "should" think, but rather gave direction and meaning to things I thought had none. As for my take on 5-MeO, it was such a wonderful, terrifying, liberating experience, that I keep in VERY high regard. I absolutely do not believe people should do this for "fun" or to "trip balls". It very much is a sacrament, a spiritual experience, to be taken seriously and to be deeply respected.
 
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