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5-MeO DMT (experienced) and Suboxone (inexperienced) - "A Blissful Peace of Mind"

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5-MeO DMT (experienced) and Suboxone (inexperienced) - "A Blissful Peace of Mind"

I posted this TR a while back, but then deleted it before I got any replies because I wanted to change some things in the TR.

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My boyfriend (I'll call him D) gave me a tiny Suboxone (Buprenorphine) fragment in order to calm me down, because I kept going through bouts of crying at this time (I was probably PMSing or something, which tends to make me really depressed rather than simply bitchy). Because of my incredibly low tolerance to opiates of all kinds, I only took probably around somewhere from a quarter to half of a milligram of Suboxone. I started to feel better (a mild opiate-ish euphoria--not my favorite brand of euphoria, but it helped me from the state of mind I had been in). I began to open up more, talking to him about what was bothering me. I told him more about my worries about tripping. We'd had plans to trip that day to celebrate our anniversary, but it turns out it was bothering him that it seemed like I was so compelled to trip, that it seemed like I had to or else I'd become very upset. Right as we were lying down to maybe even go to sleep, we agreed that we would trip, but with 5-MeO-DMT because by that time it was already about 4AM. This was a couple of hours after I'd taken the Suboxone.

I'd smoked 5-MeO-DMT a number of times before this, but usually wasn't able to get very big hits (though sometimes I was able to), and all of these times had been a while ago, when I wasn't as used to psychedelics. We brought out the 5-MeO and our foil. At first, we were only going to do a little bit, so we each put about 5mg on our foil pieces. We smoked this in a couple of hits. After doing that though, we felt especially peaceful and connected to one another, so we decided to do more. D put about 10-12mg on his foil piece and meant to use about half of it and give me the rest, but he ended up lighting the entire thing, so just inhaled all the smoke so as not to waste it. He then couldn't keep his head up anymore, so he lied down. He seemed to be having a good experience, as he seemed very giggly and trippy. I naturally wanted to have a bigger taste of 5-MeO-DMT as well, so after he "came back", I prepared about the same amount that he'd smoked (around 10mg). I was able to get all the smoke and hold it in, and it hit me so quickly and powerfully that I could barely hold the foil anymore, but I attempted to take another hit. I think I may have gotten a little bit if there was any more, but after this I was no longer in the same world. Of course it was not the typical tryptamine world, but the sleek, very brightly lit 5-MeO world of "nothingness", if that makes sense. I've read a lot of 5-MeO-DMT experiences on here, and most people seem to agree that it's pretty hard to describe and integrate these experiences. This trip for me was different, more intense and more fulfilling than the other 5-MeO trips I'd had thus far. There was "nothing", but it didn't really matter. I felt that I was in the presence of a wonderful idea, concept or "being", but I couldn't really tell what it was. It could have been ego death, but I don’t even know because I wasn't concentrating on anything like my identity or my life-- it all fell away. All I know is that it was so peaceful, it was pure bliss. I was in another world entirely and it was one of the most enjoyable and spiritual psychedelic experiences I have had, though very short of course. Though even after coming down from the main trip, smoking weed sent me back to a similar place for a while afterward.
I'm not sure how much the Suboxone had to do with the sheer pleasantness of this trip, but it was certainly interesting and worthwhile no matter what!

D said that he got some audio distortions and had a good experience, and in addition here is something he wrote about 5-MeO-DMT: "its a fun intoxicating 2 minute hyperspace voyage without too many "visuals" but lots of distortions and is pretty.....disorienting. Coming down from it right now, that 3rd hit really got me, until then it was kinda like salvia. (third toke, haha)"


As I said, this trip was two days ago, and today I feel much better than I did before doing this. I feel renewed and I'm finding the humor and beauty in pretty much everything. I'm looking forward to smoking more 5-MeO-DMT with D, and even more so to experimenting with regular n,n-DMT!

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I have repeated this combination once since this time, and I must say that I *really* like this combination. Opiates by themselves do not tend to impress me, but I seem to like the euphoria (from both the opiate and 5-MeO-DMT) and thoughtful state of mind experienced with this combination. The second time I tried this, after wards I began thinking about how the ridiculousness of life was endlessly humorous. Even annoying situations and processes that are imposed on any given person amused me for hours, and I found myself pondering why existence is this way. Adding humor can save many situations. I also thought a lot about my past and the chemical feelings that I have sought out for my entire life (not from drugs; from interesting, new experiences). In addition to the psychological effects, I think that an opiate with 5-MeO-DMT also helps to make the body feeling a bit more comfortable, perhaps?
 
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Interesting. Any perspective all these years later? I'm not too sure I ever liked having an opiate in my when taking 5-MeO-DMT....on the other hand I can't actually recall a single time I did actually...never mind.

I have seen an opiate user smoke a hit of 5-MeODMT and proceeded to be reminded that maybe the opiate lifestyle wasn't working for him anymore...I think that always scared me from trying.

Brave girl you are. ;)
 
I feel renewed and I'm finding the humor and beauty in pretty much everything. I'm looking forward to smoking more 5-MeO-DMT with D, and even more so to experimenting with regular n,n-DMT!

5-meo-dmt & n,nDmt is a nice comb to play with if you haven't tried it yet. The right mixture is hard to get but so nice. IMO

I am not a fan of opiates they just dull stuff for me.
 
I LOVE 5-MeO-DMT with DMT. You're totally right. I'll have to copy and paste one of my reports here:

This next experience consisted of about 30mgs of DMT (normal dose for me) along with a few milligrams of 5-MeO-DMT and three nitrous chargers in one big balloon (so it was easier to inhale it all). I met up with a bunch of human forms that reminded me of myself. I felt like I was being schooled on existence again (Existence 101 Class) and there was a teacher entity telling us that we were all meant to be intent manifestors; that we were people who were extra in touch with our intuition and spirituality, therefore we had more influence on the outcome of things than the average person. I understood that the kindred souls in the room were of varying maturities and had their own unique problems. Some were battling with issues of self-confidence, and some were egomaniacs who had realized and abused their power of influence over others. I was told that I needed to be extra careful with my intentions and make sure to not ever abuse this special power that I had within myself. This was a very empowering trip (but don't worry; I didn't suffer any delusions of grandeur even if it sounds like I did.. ha ha).

This experience I had (quite recently) was with DMT/5MeO-DMT and MDMA. It was one of my strangest DMT experiences of all time… perhaps paralleled only by my most recent one. As soon as I entered the trance state, I felt my mouth filling up with some sort of "food" but it was textured just like dirt and even tasted like it. I felt like it was being forced into my mouth, but not in a violent way; just a little overwhelming. I instinctively accepted the food and swallowed it because I felt like it was the right thing to do. It felt like medicine of the earth (as I said, it had the same texture as dirt). I felt an intense flash of insight and knowledge after consuming this food. Perhaps it was "food for thought". I was reminded of how it is a personal mission of mine and theme in some of my trips that I am "meant to bring together the world of dreams and the waking state". This has been a literal idea of mine that I entertain, but more so, it is a metaphor to me and I feel that it means that I need to help people to be more in touch with their subconscious mind, their dreams, and their intuitions. After this, I felt a strong urge to send powerful intent to the whole universe and to all of the people in this world, for them to become more in touch with these parts
of themselves in hopes of making the world a better place. With my friend, in tears, I voiced my intent. It was a profoundly beautiful moment.

The last experience I've had to this day (very recently) almost seemed like a follow-up of the previous one. After finishing the dose of DMT/5-MeO-DMT(on top of 4-ho-MiPT again), I saw something I can only describe as white, wispy, smoky ribbons materialize. These ribbons eventually gave way to what looked like some sort of folded square. It looked kind of like a package, but it looked like it was made out of clay or dough and folded a little bit like an envelope. It was sitting on a table that seemed to be in a location that reminded me of the Catholic church I had to attend in elementary school. I interacted with the entity by waving my arms in a specific way, which "woke it up". Then I began a banter with it. I had a complete deja vu experience where I was once again fed food, and it felt *EXTREMELY* real.. just as much as the last time. I felt the texture in my mouth; it seemed kind of cardboard-ish, wafer-ish or some similar texture (I later made a connection that this texture reminded me of the "host" of the Holy Spirit that we were given as Communion). I was given three of them, and went through an experience that I was absolutely *certain* I'd had before (this is where that experience I wrote about earlier that was muddy where I was given or fed "something physical to take home" comes in… perhaps this was the experience, or perhaps it was a different DMT experience that I had trouble remembering, or maybe a dream I'd had). In any case, I knew in that moment that *this was the purpose of hyperspace*; to bring back this material that I was eating! I once again instinctively swallowed it, and was fed the food three times as I mentioned. The last time, I felt the food lingering in my mouth, as you do when you are chewing food and get some stuck in your mouth. I could still feel it as I was coming down, and I (stupidly, HAHA) tried to see if I could retain it and retrieve it after I came down from my trip! I realized very quickly how stupid of an idea this was, as I remembered the "merits of metaphor" and thought to myself besides this that it was almost an insult to this great gift I had received. I stopped trying to retain some of the food and just thought to myself about the gift and how to utilize it. My friend who was with me during this experience told me that he had witnessed me doing the hand motions and dance, speaking to the entity, and then making obvious eating and swallowing motions.
 
^ Those are interesting reports.

Did you did you get fed in all or many of your times you mixed 5-meo-dmt with n,ndmt ? How do you feel the 5-meo-dmt changed the dmt trip from what you usally experance with out the 5-meo-dmt ?

When I did 5-meo-dmt with dmt it was hard to not over power the dmt but still use enough to get the effects of it in the dmt trip. I had some very nice and vivid experiences with it.

The only time I have ever had eating experience is different states of conciseness is in sleeping dreams, sometimes I dream something is in my mouth and usually wake up with a strange taste. Probably the taste gave me the dream ? but where did the taste come from ? lol
 
I've only mixed n,n with 5-MeO in DMT concoctions about 3-5 times. Two of those times I was fed the food, and those experiences were only a day apart. Also, one of them was on top of MDMA and the other was on top of 4-ho-MiPT... so I don't know how much the factor that I was already tripping on longer lasting substances played into things. I definitely notice much more of a body buzz, and more ego death with 5-MeO added to the mix of DMTs. :) Also, maybe things seem more "real". I know people often report n,n-DMT experiences as "more realer than real" or whatever that phrase is... but with 5-MeO-DMT+n,n-DMT, that seems to apply even more!

Never gotten that with dreams! What kind of things did you taste??! O.o That's wild. Hehe.. the taste in my mouth from the hyperspatial food I was fed was just a taste of.. dirt, mainly. haha. Didn't have much of a flavor.
Did you did you get fed in all or many of your times you mixed 5-meo-dmt with n,ndmt ? How do you feel the 5-meo-dmt changed the dmt trip from what you usally experance with out the 5-meo-dmt ?
 
Most of my sleeping dream tastes have been negative/bad taste. A couple of my sleeping dreams with taste was metallic, I had screws or nails in my mouth and they tasted bad and I woke up with that taste. In eastern medicine like acupuncture a metallic taste is an imbalance, so I kind of think maybe I had an imbalance that was so strong I could taste in in my sleep ? Idono

I've only mixed n,n with 5-MeO in DMT concoctions about 3-5 times. Two of those times I was fed the food, and those experiences were only a day apart. Also, one of them was on top of MDMA and the other was on top of 4-ho-MiPT... so I don't know how much the factor that I was already tripping on longer lasting substances played into things. I definitely notice much more of a body buzz, and more ego death with 5-MeO added to the mix of DMTs. :) Also, maybe things seem more "real". I know people often report n,n-DMT experiences as "more realer than real" or whatever that phrase is... but with 5-MeO-DMT+n,n-DMT, that seems to apply even more!

Never gotten that with dreams! What kind of things did you taste??! O.o That's wild. Hehe.. the taste in my mouth from the hyperspatial food I was fed was just a taste of.. dirt, mainly. haha. Didn't have much of a flavor.
 
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