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5-MeO-DMT and Cannabis - Experienced - Ragnarok (a good one)

Jamshyd

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May 23rd, 2004

I am shocked. I never expected this to happen, yet it did. Having lost all hope in 5-MeO-DMT, I was not expecting much. My state of mind was set that I will endure ten or twenty minutes of severe body load. But that was not the case.

There are two reasons why I decided to give 5-MeO-DMT a last chance. The first was that a friend shared his inhalation technique with me – that being of taking as many fast, quick tokes as possible, instead of taking one huge inhalation. The second was that I noticed that many people who praise 5-MeO-DMT had Cannabinoids in their system prior to inhaling it. All my previous experiments with this substances were done with no other drug, except for caffeine.

It all started with just a tiny pinch of finely ground Cannabis. Usually only 3 of my “pinches” are needed for a full-blown Cannabis experience (and Cannabis has a lot of psychedelic effects on me). I would estimate a single pinch as being no more than 50-100mg of finely ground plant matter. This was some of the best Cannabis I ever had the pleasure of coming by. It was definitely a Sativa of an unknown strain (for you see, in my town strains are unknown). It had a pungent smoke but a flavour like incense.

The Cannabis was actually vapourized in a lightbulb (the same lightbulb to be use for the 5-MeO-DMT). I then prepared 8mg of 5-MeO-DMT and put it in the (cleaned) lightbulb, after which I did a quick banishing ritual and lighted some Amber incense. I waited for a bit more than 10 minutes until I got weak Cannabis effects that I expected from that much. I put on some music (Enigma) and sat on the edge of my bed, and held the vaporizer above the flame until very slowly the white sprinkles of powder turned into clear droplets that eventually vanished and were replaced by a thick, white, funny-smelling vapour.

I started taking quick small inhalations. By the third one, the trademark 5-MeO-DMT tinnitus started. By the fifth one, the trademark 5-MeO-DMT heartbeat started. I decided I better lie down now so I took all the vapour left in one big toke and held it in. I was feeling the typical uncomfortable 5-MeO-DMT come up, and I had only one thing on my mind: “that wasn’t all the 8mg. Gotta take more! Quick!) and so I manage to hold the vaporizer over the flame as my coordination was beginning to get shot. And indeed, more vapour was produced. I took it all in quick hits until I had to quickly lie down. Why?

Ok. Here is what happened next. For some time, my body ceased to exist. It felt numb. No, it felt simply not there. I felt a gaping sensation at my solar plexus… a "void," to use a cliché. Now this was definitely the 5-MeO-DMT in action. Normally, this wouldn’t happen: I would feel a hammering sensation in the inside of my head with enormous pressure all over my body. Not this time. While the “emptiness” started expanding in my torso, my forehead was hit by a lightning bolt. I felt my third eye being ripped open, and light energy poured into it (my forehead was actually throbbing), and filled the emptiness in my torso. This was the work of the Cannabis, since I always have third-eye phenomena with it. It was as if there was a battle between light (Cannabis) and darkness (5-MeO-DMT) and they seemed to eventually neutralize each other. This all happened in maybe one or two seconds, but I noticed every stage of it. Behind my closed eyes were many chaotic visions – not too brilliant, but very active and interesting. These eventually slowed down to become a quick slideshow of visions, all of which I do not remember except for one: a round, rotating “chariot” of angels. I really cannot describe it any better, but it was beautiful.

After that, I felt and incredible state of euphoria. Surprisingly, it was very cannabis-flavoured… as if the 5-MeO-DMT was wearing a cannabis costume. There was none of the bodyload I had come to expect from 5-MeO-DMT. I went through tunnels and vortexes. These by themselves were the work of cannabis, but the texture and “feel” and colour that they had – that was something from the Tryptamine world. My body eventually returned, and it felt very happy basking in Tryptamine buzzing. I opened my eyes… I just noticed that I had been totally motionless for the past 20 minutes. In fact, I felt almost paralyzed. As I stared out of the window I saw many disks converge to become a star (don’t ask), and in the middle of the star was a gaping eye. It was not the apocalyptic, divine eye that I am used to seeing on DPT, but a very machine-like one. That was all with my eyes open. I then closed my eyes and that eye remained in my field of vision. I could see it to great detail, I noticed that the iris was rotating and changing colours… it was spectacular.

The music (which was phenomenally enhanced, btw) stopped exactly 1 hour after smoking the cannabis, and with it I was pretty much back to baseline, with a nice afterglow. I went for a walk after, which took another hour, after which I came back home and rested. By the third hour I was absolutely sober, just a bit drowsy from the Cannabis, and that was cured with a cup of tea. The thing is, the experience, plus the walk, all seem so unreal now. In fact, besides what I mentioned above, I do not remember any details. I am not sure why that is. It really feels as if it is something that happened years ago in a far away place, but in fact it was only a few hours ago.

So I guess I change my mind on 5-MeO-DMT… it is not bad at all :). I just needed the light of Cannabis to balance its darkness in order to experience it. It was very psychedelic and extremely interesting – however, it still does not come close to the majesty of DPT. I wonder how DPT mixes with Cannabis?
 
Sounds amazing.. I can't wait to finally try 5-MeO-DMT. Can anyone comment on this inhalation technique? What is everyone else's preferred way?
 
Awesome! Glad to hear you finally had a brake through experience. :)

How much do you think you smoked after taking the ~8 mg?
 
Haha.. I almost completely forgot about this experience. Yes, I remember that I had only 1 pleasant 5-MeO-DMT experience with Cannabis, but my mind somehow blotted the entire trip out. Hmm..

Well, to answer your question, I think I smoked the entrie 8mg by the second time. (~8mg was all that I put in the vapourizer, no more at any time later). My assurance that I did was that when I put the vapourizer over the lighter afterwards there was no condensation or vapour (or the distinctive 5-MeO-DMT smell ;)).
 
Woops! Completely missed the date! =D Dunno how I'd miss that, but still great to read you finally had a good experience with it. 8 mg is about the right amount for me as well. More just get's you there a bit easier, IMO.
 
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