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4-MAR - First Time - One gram. Ten electric days.

Kaden_Nite

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Some background:
It was 2010. I was 21 at the time.

I wasn't really into stimulants. I'd had coke a few times, usually in combination with other things.

Methamphetamine made me feel jumpy. My skin would tingle and I'd feel as if I was breaking out in cold sweats. Not my thing. Dexamphetamine was a little different, but no better.

I didn't mind Ritalin though.

At the time, I had a taste for MDMA, LSD, weed and temazepam. The latter two substances were used throughout the ten days that I had this compound.

It is worth mentioning that there has always been talk and confusion regarding 4-MAR being sold as ice. I didn't include 'experience' in the title as I've been told that certain meth batches were 4-MAR, but I have my doubts.

This report is the only time I have been certain I had 4-MAR. I'd be happy to call it a first time.

Aside from weighing the gram initially and splitting evenly into two bags, I did not weigh individual doses.

I slept most nights and usually didn't start on the gear until I'd had a good meal.

Day one:

Sunday. I had acquired the gram around midday. I ate roughly 25-30mg, what seemed a small amount, and got on my bike. I must have been moving quite quickly because the next thing I knew, I was nearing my house. Korn's Got The Life came on in my earphones, a song I have always been quite indifferent to. That first snare drum hit me like lightning. A rush of very nice euphoria.

I kept busy until the early hours of the morning. Typical stimulant effects really, not necessarily relaxing, but easy going considering its' potency and longevity.

The working week:

I got a considerable amount of work done that week and actually found it quite enjoyable. I could sit down and take a break, then get back up and get into it again.

This is a quality that meth does not seem to have for me.

The festival. Saturday, 2nd half gram:

My one and only attempt to snort this stuff had been hampered by the unpredictable flimsiness of my state's increasingly rustic railway system.

I sniffed a small bump of the crystal just in time for the train to suddenly jolt to the right, sending the razor sharp point of a carefully rolled banknote straight into my inner-septum.

The train pulled into my destination and I walked with a newly acquired spring in my step, past a number of uniformed authoritarians directing the flood of people towards the race course where the festival was being held.

I realised that I was bleeding a little bit from my nose and found a restroom to get myself together. I hadn't slept the previous night, but felt good. My head was clear, the bass from the nearby festival was sounding incredibly inviting.

I met up with some friends and we spent the day partying in the rain. Everybody was covered in mud. Girls were dancing in their underwear.

By nightfall, a recently purchased camera in my pocket was inoperable. It seemed that the only thing in the festival grounds which had been kept dry was the drugs. I ate a good amount of the 4-MAR as we headed to the mainstage to catch The Prodigy's set.

I remember dancing and enjoying the music greatly, but couldn't stop focusing in great detail on my surroundings and those dancing around me. An hour passed in what seemed like minutes. I don't remember much about the set that I had been waiting all day to see, except when the sky opened up and started pouring just as the bass dropped to the song 'Thunder'.

As nice as the music sounds on this stuff, it seems that it becomes more like a background soundtrack to whatever else I am doing, rather than the immersive experience that I tend to experience listening to and watching live music on acid or MDMA.

I headed back home on the train chatting with some girls I'd met earlier in the day. We ended up hanging out by the beach smoking weed for the rest of the night.

By the time I got home, just before sunrise, my vision was blurring and lights were running together like water paint.

It was evident that I needed sleep.

One last thing:

I finished the rest over the next few days, but I think I'd had my fun.

I didn't really experience any hangover effects, but like every other common stimulant, it is moreish and probably quite deceptive as in; friendly at first, but it gets to a point where enough is enough.

I'm glad that I had the experience, but also glad I couldn't get more.. on reflection anyway :)

Tagged by Xorkoth
substancecode_4methylaminorex
substancecode_4mar
substancecode_stimulants
explevel_experienced
exptype_positive
exptype_glowing
roacode_oral
 
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That's cool you got a chance to try 4-MAR. I remember reading about it way back in the day and thinking it sounded great. I'd definitely give it a shot if I had a chance. There's a 4-MAR analogue available now but apparently it's shit and also quite dangerous.
 
Thanks for the report Kaden. Any idea on the isomer/s? From what I’ve read 4-MAR can vary quite a bit depending on synthesis route and subsequent isomers formed.

-GC
 
No it's
I wonder why? Is 4-MAR just a much more complex synth?
no it's not much harder to make at all.
It's precursor PPA(phenylpropanolamine) as it's known is what would make amphetamine if cooked like ephedrine but why make something weak and ordinary like amphetamine when it's just as easy to make 4mar only difference is different chemical turns it into something better.it circulates in the ice community in Australia and I'm quite happy to say it's heaven when you smoke it.its similar to crystal meth but is a bit gentler on the mind and body while being more euphoric and enjoyable with less side effects (doesn't give you the tension headaches/leg cramps meth does).it's rare bcoz in first world countries PPA is rare but in places like Bali u can buy it at 7/11 and bcoz it's not as well known as meth.not as many people have heard of it.sadly since I think around 2008 was the last time it was seen by me.i think that is bcoz aminorexs were found to cause pulmonary hypertension or something like that.aminorex was found to cause it but not sure if methylaminorex causes it.i smoked large amounts for like four months everyday and another year of chronic weekend binging on it no probs.i reckon they stopped selling it just to be on the safe side.i guess small amounts pop up randomly every now and then but it's not been seen in large amounts for a long time.
 
I wonder why? Is 4-MAR just a much more complex synth?
Other reason is bcoz its synthesis is outside of the four step procedure speed cooks are used to.99%of cooks just can't comprehend anything outside of the basic psuedo/iodine reaction anymore than average Joe could.its not a hard to do synthesis at all though it's just getting the PPA.
 
I need to try 4-MAR. I fucking love meth, so I feel like my life won't be complete without sampling this chemical - real "Ice".

Is it roughly the same strength/potency of meth?
Yep.substitutes nicely.same potency wise.i think I used to get the trans isomers.
 
I have tried the brand new 4F-4'-MAR coming from Nederland!!!

I have a 4F-4'-MAR gram and a MD-PVP, and a MDPEP, new MDPV replacement and I have tried them, I can answer questions from members who would be interested in the first trip report ever possibly made, but, in France ?? this is 6h57am and am so tired, but I'll be back later when I will be ready and really aware of how it works, cause I've three chemical compound, 4F-4'-MAR, MDPEP, which is a MDPV analog, and moreover, I have also some MD-PVP another analog, if this word can be written like that...???

II'm now going to lay down my couch ?, but, I will try to make a subject, when I'll have experience enough, since I'd just tried a shot of each!!!
So, see you later... I'm tired by now!!!

Have a good day américains members....
 
4fluro4mar was a letdown according to the hive members who tried it. md4mar was also a disappointment apparently.2fluro4mar has a good review on Reddit by some guy who says he made it.so I guess 2 is the magic position for substitution of the aminorexs phenyl ring
 
I was reading that 4'-fluoro-4-mar is actually likely to be substantially toxic... apparently the synth for the 2'-fluoro analogue isn't really any more difficult, but that one seems much safer and better.

I would really love to get to try the original 4-MAR. I always thought it sounded fantastic.
 
Some background:


Day one:


Sunday. I had acquired the gram around midday. I ate roughly 25-30mg, what seemed a small amount, and got on my bike. I must have been moving quite quickly because the next thing I knew, I was nearing my house. Korn's Got The Life came on in my earphones, a song I have always been quite indifferent to. That first snare drum hit me like lightning. A rush of very nice euphoria.

I kept busy until the early hours of the morning. Typical stimulant effects really, not necessarily relaxing, but easy going considering its' potency and longevity.

The working week:

I got a considerable amount of work done that week and actually found it quite enjoyable. I could sit down and take a break, then get back up and get into it again.

This is a quality that meth does not seem to have for me.

The festival. Saturday, 2nd half gram:

My one and only attempt to snort this stuff had been hampered by the unpredictable flimsiness of my state's increasingly rustic railway system.

I sniffed a small bump of the crystal just in time for the train to suddenly jolt to the right, sending the razor sharp point of a carefully rolled banknote straight into my inner-septum.

The train pulled into my destination and I walked with a newly acquired spring in my step, past a number of uniformed authoritarians directing the flood of people towards the race course where the festival was being held.

I realised that I was bleeding a little bit from my nose and found a restroom to get myself together. I hadn't slept the previous night, but felt good. My head was clear, the bass from the nearby festival was sounding incredibly inviting.

I met up with some friends and we spent the day partying in the rain. Everybody was covered in mud. Girls were dancing in their underwear.

By nightfall, a recently purchased camera in my pocket was inoperable. It seemed that the only thing in the festival grounds which had been kept dry was the drugs. I ate a good amount of the 4-MAR as we headed to the mainstage to catch The Prodigy's set.

I remember dancing and enjoying the music greatly, but couldn't stop focusing in great detail on my surroundings and those dancing around me. An hour passed in what seemed like minutes. I don't remember much about the set that I had been waiting all day to see, except when the sky opened up and started pouring just as the bass dropped to the song 'Thunder'.

As nice as the music sounds on this stuff, it seems that it becomes more like a background soundtrack to whatever else I am doing, rather than the immersive experience that I tend to experience listening to and watching live music on acid or MDMA.

I headed back home on the train chatting with some girls I'd met earlier in the day. We ended up hanging out by the beach smoking weed for the rest of the night.

By the time I got home, just before sunrise, my vision was blurring and lights were running together like water paint.

It was evident that I needed sleep.

One last thing:

I finished the rest over the next few days, but I think I'd had my fun.

I didn't really experience any hangover effects, but like every other common stimulant, it is moreish and probably quite deceptive as in; friendly at first, but it gets to a point where enough is enough.

I'm glad that I had the experience, but also glad I couldn't get more.. on reflection anyway :)

Tagged by Xorkoth
substancecode_4methylaminorex
substancecode_4mar
substancecode_stimulants
explevel_experienced
exptype_positive
exptype_glowing
roacode_oral
Have you had experience with 4f-mar are they one and the same hmmm I will start low on this and I mean low maybe 10mg
 
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