4-HO-DIPT - 1st time - Where did my high go?

[DreamsAreFree]

First of all, I don't have very accurate times for this experiment as I did with the 2c-i last time, so timing may be off by a little.

Substance -
Cannabis
T+0:00 4-HO-DiPT (20mg oral)
Cannabis
T+3:30 4-HO-DIPT (20mg oral)
Cannabis

Subject -
35 yr male, 170lbs, good health, lots of "traditional" psychedelic experience (lsd, mushrooms, mdma) but I'm a relative newcomer with some of these more exotic substances.

Setting - my band playing at a party in the mountains, amongst the redwoods. I brought along a bunch of 2c-i (10-18mg doses, and 4-24mg doses) to give away to friends and fellow researchers at the party, but knowing I had to work the following day, I opted to try 4-ho-dipt for the first time.

I weighed out 6-20mg doses of 4-ho-dipt, expecting each member of the band to have one and maybe boost an additional amount later. (They all opted for the 2c-i instead)
I swallowed my capsule about 1 hour before we were to start playing

T+0:20 - Feeling the first signs of activity from this stuff. +1
T+0:40 - Okay, that was quick, I am definitely feeling the effects at this stage: +2, starting to get a little flush/sweaty; pretty typical coming onto psychedelics for me. Shadows and light are starting to do that crazy little dance. I also notice I can't stop my feet from moving, feeling a little restless
T+1:00 - I wouldn't say a +3, but fully feeling the effects and it's time for the band to start playing. YeeeHah!!
The set lasts about 2 hours, during which I am finding a lot of good creative spaces. Nothing brilliant or inspired, but everything is flowing pretty smoothly through me. But I find myself looking for more perfection, more order. Our guitar player starts coming onto the 2c-i halfway through the set, and the other members of the band eat their 2c-i too.
T+3:00 - We're done playing and I am really feeling a quick descent from the 4-ho-dipt.
T+3:20 - Wait a minute? Didn't I feel super high just 15 minutes ago?
T+3:30 - That was fast, does redosing work with this stuff?
T+4:20 - I am back up again to a +2, but no flushness this time around.
T+5:00 - Still not hitting that +3 level I like to reach and not sure it's time to add 10mg more (remember I have to work the following morning).
T+5:30 - Well, I don't think I got quite as high this second time. It's nice a sparkly psychedelic and all, but nothing mind-blowing.
T+6:30 - Well, I am still feeling the effects, I am probably at a +1.5 right now, but I've got to get some sleep.

I had no trouble falling asleep on this stuff. Even though I didn't get as high, the effects seemed to last just little longer the second time around. For me, the weirdest part was feeling baseline quite suddenly. It was an odd sensation. I think next time I will have to start a little higher with this substance, maybe a 25mg dose, and perhaps an additional 10 or 15 at the 2-hour mark. My regular research partner "s" really likes this stuff too. I don't feel that cannabis is very effective while under the effects of this substance, but then I smoke a lot of pot.

I could totally see this being used as a tool for psychiatrists... the short duration and the fact that it was in no way overwhelming is surely a positive sign.

Side Notes:
Everybody seemed real pleased with the 2c-i, the party was really buzzing. Late comers were noticing the positively charged psychedelic atmosphere. One of my more experienced lab assistants ate 24mg 2c-i, with a hit of 5-meo-dmt at the 5 hour mark. He is a changed man!! Time folded in on itself and he says he can't look at another person in quite the same way ever again. Now that's what I like to hear.


substancecode_4hodipt
explevel_firsttime

 

[Goanaut]

i know it' s off topic and all, but what band are ya with?

good report....i hope to reporting on this substance soon

 

[nickthecheese]

Lovely report DreamsAreFree, sounds like your band had a triptastic time

 

[Splatt]

Well written! Thanks

 

[esse20]

very nice

 

[Matt_Himself]

Nice report.

I used to play in a band, and I had thought about taking a psychedelic before a show, but opted not to as I thought I wouldnt be able to concentrate. How was it as far as playing? Im wondering if the atmosphere would help...

Good job

 

[DreamsAreFree]

I told myself years ago that I would never ingest psychedelics before playing a gig where people paid good money to come out and see us. I only ever do this in a party environment when we're not getting paid as professional musicians. That might change as I increase my experience with lower levels of controlled psychedelic experiences.

*A little band background... we play 100% improvised music, nothing is written before we take the stage. Inspiration (from set/setting, crowd, ???) is *KEY*!

Concentration levels never seemed to be compromised, nor did I notice any problems with coordination. I think the analytical nature of my_brain+psychedelics became very pronounced/enhanced. As I stated in the report, I found myself looking for more order/perfection in the music. But at the same time, ideas were evolving very naturally/organically, nothing seemed forced. Nothing seemed incredibly inspired, but there didn't seem to be any significant detractors. (I have yet to listen back to the tapes to find out if those feelings were warranted or not.)

Mushrooms, on the other hand at a party a few weeks prior, added a totally different character to the type of music/soundscape were were providing. And considering we *lost* our bass player for a little while and things got a little too hectic and confusing, maybe we ate too much.

I wouldn't ingest this all the time before playing, but some situations are screaming invitations to this kind of exploration.

DaF

 

[fb1]

cool report
thanks for sharing

 

[trippinspirals]

holy.....

I hope your lab assistant is a changed man for the better. 24mg 2c-i plus a hit of 5 meo dmt! thats fucking something else altogether right there.

 

[DreamsAreFree]

^^^ Oh definitely for the better. He repeated this experiment 2 weeks later with most positive results. There is a certain clarity of mind that one keeps with 2c-i that seemed synergize really well with the 5meodmt for him, allowing him to put the 5meo experience into words, that otherwise would have been lost to the experience. The ability to clearly analyze the 5meodmt experience seems to be the real prize here.

I had my first 5meodmt expereince last night, but that's for another trip report.


DaF