4-aco-dmt vs. 4-ho-mipt

[Psy-co-naught]

I was wondering about how these two compare, specifically as far as spiritual feelings and that sort of intensity goes. I'm no so much looking for a 'fun, have a good time' psychedelic but more of a 'feel the hand of god' sort of trancelike trip like you have with heavy doses of mushrooms. Visuals are a plus, as well.

I've tried 4-aco-dmt before and liked it, but I have never had 4-ho-mipt.

If anyone could conpare these aspects of these RCs it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

 

[pasha]

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[Solipsis]

I found 4-HO-MiPT to be very alien / unnatural and non-sensical but interesting. I can have very random visions (not the same as visuals, or if anything similar to elaborate CEVs) on 4-HO-MiPT while on 4-AcO-DMT it is a bit more traditional and tribal although it can still be otherworldly.

On 4-AcO-DMT I can see entities, landscapes and worlds that are much like those I see on mushrooms and N,N-DMT, but on 4-HO-MiPT there can be scenes of all kinds, in full-color one moment and monochromatic the next. The content can be modern or classic but not so much ancient for me.

4-AcO-DMT is much more spiritual for me and it makes me feel like in a deep trance, very far away and I can be somewhat ignorant of or blind to how deep I actually get.
4-HO-MiPT was not that spiritually intense for me, it's rather a wacked out trip that I get.

I find the MiPT family mostly weird, having tried the free MiPT, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-AcO-MiPT and 5-MeO-MiPT. Which makes for interesting compounds but generally not my favorites.
Only one left to go is 4-MeO-MiPT and I'm not in a hurry to try my sample of that....

 

[blazR]

Solipsis said it pretty well..

 

[kidklmx]

Never tried 4-HO-MiPT, but have read that spiritually it's an easier compound, which when you're aiming for the deep end could end up being a good thing. There's some discussion on this in the Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT thread.

Not sure if any compound shares the divinity of the DMT-based compounds, not even LSD has it in my mind.

 

[scotty5591]

ive tried both compounds and would say i prefer the effects of MIPT alot more than ACO DMT

For me MIPT does everything ACO DMT does but has a much more fun and recreational feeling to it, the body high is also far superior and audio enhancement is incredible, aco dmt has a much more neutral feeling for me and feels alot more "serious"

 

[porkstock]

i mostly agree with the above poster.

ive tried both compounds and would say i prefer the effects of 4-HO-MIPT more than 4-ACO-DMT

For me MIPT does (almost) everything ACO DMT does, but has a much more fun and recreational feeling to it, the body high is also superior.
4-aco-dmt feels alot more "serious"

fixed, so i fully agree^^^


i've yet to try higher doses of 4-ho-mipt, but i've really enjoyed medium sized ones.

 

[nintey]

Would you say that mipt would be better to take around a campfire with a couple friends than 4acodmt?

 

[infantannihilator]

You guys need to specify which mipt you're talking about, just plain old mipt or the 4-ho-mipt the TS talked about. Scotty says he's tried both, so I assume when he says mipt he means he's tried 4-ho-mipt, but maybe not. Maybe he's using mipt as a short form for 4-ho or thinks that mipt is the same as 4-ho-mipt? Its hard to know really, and confusing.

 

[nintey]

Very sorry 4-ho-mipt

 

[caravela]

Would you say that mipt would be better to take around a campfire with a couple friends than 4acodmt?

For me personally no way! It would be 4 aco dmt.. because 4 ho mipt makes me feel oncomfortable the whole trip and 4 aco dmt is just a smooth ride

 

[atara]

I really enjoyed miprocin, at least until something really terrible happened on it, but that wasn't miprocin's fault anyway. I haven't tried 4-AcO-DMT, only mushrooms, which were fun and interesting. I would say miprocin had a nicer body high and better visuals, but to me the intellectual content of miprocin was kind of disorganized and difficult to really integrate into real life in a useful way. Totally interesting in a spiritual sense as long as you could be reasonable about it, but that wasn't always easy. Looking back over how I reacted to miprocin trips I had a tendency to get attached to ideas (both good and bad) which weren't entirely reasonable, but didn't have this problem so much on LSD or the phenethylamines. Psilocin did this less so than miprocin.

Ethocin, admittedly not the subject of the thread, was almost the opposite: very serious, no euphoria, lots of thinking, most of it quite reasonable and productive. Psilocin fell somewhere in between.

I also sometimes found miprocin distractingly erotic, but I tend to be susceptible to that with psychedelics more than most people. For various reasons this means I'll probably never take it again. Still, I'd say it's an awesome recreational tryptamine in a comfortable environment.