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2CT7: The Man in the Mirror

Catch-22

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During the last few weeks, my mental outlook has been very contemplative and introspective. I have been reading Being and Nothingness by Sartre and reading dozens of trip reports on the internet. The day before this experience, I had a reflective conversation with a friend of mine where we spoke for about four hours.
I wanted to trip at night, so for the past few days I had began shifting my sleeping patterns. I woke up at 8:00 PM and did some light stretching. I am not taking any medications and have no physical/mental problems. Except for a handful of crackers, I have not eaten in more than 14 hours. I feel somewhat nervous but upbeat and looking forward to the experience.
Note = Quotations are from actual entries either made in my journal or spoken into a tape recorder during the experience. (I used the tape recorder from 12 AM until 4:30 AM, otherwise I wrote in my journal.)
8:30 PM (+0:00) = This is my first experience with 2-C-T-7, and it has been about five years since I lasted tripped. I nervously ingest a capsule containing 18.2 mg and unplug my telephones. I “psychologically begin insulating myself inside my apartment.” I take a quick shower and “any apprehensions…seem to dissipate.” I look at myself for five minutes in the mirror, then put on a favorite t-shirt and pair of jeans.
8:52 PM (+0:22) = “I seek a couple of benefits from this experience.” I want to “temporarily remove myself from the ordinary world” so I can recapture a more essential frame of mind. “Now in my mid- to late-20’s, I find myself getting bogged daily in daily experience” and want to “reclarify what is truly important to me.” I also want to explore myself and get some honest insight into “why, despite my abilities and ambitions and respectable levels of accomplishments, I fail to live up to my own internal standards.”
9:06 PM (+0:36) = “Feeling vaguely thick. Not unpleasant at all….” My apartment is quiet except for classical music playing on the radio.
9:17 PM (+0:47) = “I do feel slight queasiness. Right now I am lying on my back….” My apartment is dark except for one light in the kitchen.
9:21 PM (+0:51) = “As a precaution, I grab a wastebasket and move it over next to me on the couch.” I focus on writing so I can ignore the physical discomfort. “My body has been changing in recent years. About ten years ago I was athletic….I am not happy with how I have put on significant weight. Too many nights spent drinking, a late night snack before going to bed. I am now 6’3”-6’4” and 280 lbs, and I don’t like it….My own frustrations of not accomplishing my personal and professional goals—I take these things….and channel my resentment at others.”
9:28 PM (+0:58) = “There is a slight commotion outside. Notice a dead feeling in my stomach. I feel clean, pure….and restless. I try to take my pulse and get 48 [beats per minute].” But I also realize this is not possible?
9:37 PM (+1:07) = “Difficult to write.”
9:39 PM (+1:09) = “The classical music from the radio seems….full, rich, clear! Definitely impacting my mood.”
9:44 PM (+1:14) = I think about the South American mountain tribe from the movie Altered States. “I feel euphoric—my face numbs, my arms are heavy….my feet cold. There is a dead spot in my stomach, can’t even really say it’s uncomfortable.”
9:50 PM (+1:20) = “Queasy….”
10:08 PM (+1:38) = “Feel tingling on top of head. Shortness of breath.” The classical music gives way to The Orb. “Some motor coordination problems….I have not yet peaked—and feel The Orb taking me higher!”
10:16 PM (+1:48) = “I am glad I am alone with this. My thoughts wander [and I] wouldn’t want questions or talking from others. How to describe this? My head is warm, my chest is cold, my groin is warm but my feet are cold.”
10:35 PM (+2:05) = “I am in an altered state. Still coming up….”
10:42 PM (+2:12) = “Finally! Cool all over except for top of head….”
10:56 PM (+2:26) = I fall into the sofa, then lay on my back watching the ceiling. “Slow at first, then patterns….swirlings—washed back and forth—easier, more distinguished—melts, swirls and crawls of patterns. Some pixelation of vision.”
11:00 PM (+2:30) = “Stomach light, shaking, trembling, head tingling, feet/knees quivering, hand shaking. Writing is a tremendous challenge….[Illegible]….Shoulders loose, knees weak, jaw clenching…[Illegible]”
? = “Three dimensional, wave/cresting type of patterns. Washing over me. Still cognizant in the moment but completely and delightfully impaired.”
~11:45 PM (+3:15) = I went for a fifteen minute walk around my neighborhood. I live in a medium sized city in the southern United States. The sky was overcast and I could barely see any stars.
~12:05 AM (+3:35) = The introspective qualities start taking over as I talk into the tape recorder. “What is holding me back in life?” “Why can’t I just be brave….? I’m showing cowardice. I’m not trying. I’m not challenging myself!” I also try to describe some of the visuals I am seeing. “Floating patterns, cascading in and out. Three-dimensional. Breathing. [Garbled] Undulating. Feeling alive.” I also realize that although I could handle more 2-C-T-7, I am very comfortable with this dose.
12:15 AM (+3:45) = “Wish I was in the wilderness.” I remember going hiking with my father when I was 7 or 8 years old. I feel tightness in the jaws that is mildly uncomfortable and notice that I am sweating lightly.
? = I make some disoriented comments into the tape recorder.
~12:30 AM (+4:00) = “I went to the bathroom, and looked at myself in the mirror….and saw I was different people. There’s the constructive me….[Garbled] There was the destructive me….Above, there’s the real me….where I need to focus. Then underneath, the regular guy trying to hold different pieces together….I need to see that the upper me is being dragged down. I liked all of them except one….he [the negative one?] was cold, his glare was pale…. [Garbled] There was some visuals, then a meltdown and a build back up….”
12:46 AM (+4:16) = I change the setting of my apartment by turning on all the lights. I drink a soda and it tastes great. I feel energetic and “pushed”. I decide to try to some oil painting. “I feel soft and clumsy.”
1:12 AM (+4:42) = I express my amazement at the painting experience. Kind of Blue by Miles Davis is playing on the stereo.
1:27 AM (+4:57) = I look into the mirror for approximately 10 minutes and then try to describe it into the tape recorder. “I just went to the mirror and I saw some things. If I don’t change, it will take over….and there was a sense I need to clarify [myself]. You could tell looking in….I was looking into my eyes—a keyhole into this alternate universe. And….” The taped entry continues for about thirty seconds, but I never finish my description and apparently just shut the tape recorder off. As I write this the next day, I think I meant to say something like: The disappointment of not achieving all your goals is minor considered to the despair of not accomplishing any of them.
1:43 AM (+5:13) = By now I am becoming more loquacious with my tape-recorded entries. I go outside and stand on my balcony for a minute. A neighbor’s cat is lying in the windowsill of the apartment across from me. The cat looked at me, and I looked back at the cat. We locked eyes for about a minute and I felt some kind of (psychic?) connection until I was distracted by a car noise from the street. Snapped back to reality, I retreat into my apartment and lock the door.
? = I return to look in the mirror for the final time. “Melt away to the worst I can be, and then come back to the best I can be….” I realize and accept I will never be perfect, because my strengths as a person are linked to my weaknesses. They are tied together and cannot be separated. The key is that if the strengths are busily utilized, the weaknesses do not have a chance to take hold and flourish. The opposite is also true: “Every hour I let the bad person run free is 10 hours the good guy can’t walk with a smile on his face.”
? = I eat a few crackers and feel very good. I turn out all the lights and lay on the sofa watching a candle. “I feel more eager to have a conversation. I feel much more eager to philosophize with someone. Ask questions, answer questions. This would be the sociable time.” I feel a burst of energy, and have to consciously suppress the urge to call friends or go for a drive in my car. Instead, I compose a poem describing the flickering candle into the tape recorder.
2:11 AM (+ 5:41) = I turn all the lights back on and start cooking a meal. Miles Davis gives way to Bob Dylan and I feel euphoric.
2:35 AM (+6:05) = I feel energetic. Physically I have some tension from jaw clenching. My head tingles and there is a cool feeling in my knees and ankles. I take two Advil (each 200-mg ibuprofen) and a Centrum (multi-vitamin). I eat less than half of the meal I cooked before returning to work on my painting.
? = I have a strong reaction to the song Positively 4th Street by Bob Dylan. “I don’t know exactly what he’s singing about. Is he singing to himself? Is he singing to someone else? Or is someone singing this to him? But to me, it sounded like parts of me talking to other parts of me. Not exactly, but enough to give me chills….”
3:15 AM (+6:45) = Bob Dylan gives way to Luna’s Penthouse.
3:48 AM (+7:18) = I finish the painting and name it “Washed Away”. [At the time I thought the painting was mediocre, but as I write this the next day I am really beginning to like the way it looks. The scene is a storm at sea with a rocky island in the background. The sky is turbulent and swirling, about to conceal a fading sun. A large wave is building that will soon block almost the entire view from sight.]
4:00 AM (+7:30) = I lay on the couch for 20 minutes. I feel heady and enthused, and begin to contemplate this experience.
4:30 AM (+8:00) = Luna gives way to Mazzy Star who gives way to Sonic Youth. I feel a dull pain in my jaw and slight discomfort on the top of my head so I take two more Advil (each 200-mg ibuprofen). “At this point….if I did have a steady girlfriend I would want her here with me to experience the aftereffect.” I have thoughts of incorporating this experience and future 2-C-T-7 trips into my regular life. “This is the part of the trip where you bond.” For the next 90 minutes I organize my thoughts. I sketch in my journal, and draw myself looking into the mirror with all the different people looking back at me. I feel euphoric. The apartment is silent except for the music and I drink plenty of water.
6:30 AM (+10:00) = I spend six hours playing around on the computer, relaxing and enjoying myself.
1:00 PM (+16:30) = I eat a small meal and watch mindless television.
3:00 PM (+18:30) = I go to bed and drift off to sleep after about ten minutes.
11:30 PM (+27:00) = I wake up feeling refreshed except for a dull ache in my jaw, some tension between my shoulder blades and slight pressure in my eyes. I am happy, seem mentally alert and feel ready to begin a new project of some kind.
This experience was very enjoyable and I gained some beneficial insights that should help me with my daily life. The physical discomfort was noticeable at times but never prohibitive. While my dosage was mild, I now understand my reaction to 2-C-T-7 and would be willing to try 20-25 mg orally in my future experiences. I would like to try other settings or perhaps eventually combine 2-C-T-7 with other drugs.
In conclusion, I appreciated the introspective and creative aspects of the experience. I now understand that the enjoyment is not in achieving perfection but the process of trying, and the disappointment of not living up to your full potential is minor compared to the despair and bitterness of never realizing even a small amount of your potential. I enjoyed the feeling of painting, and sometime in the future might try to dictate an entire short story into a tape recorder while experiencing 2-C-T-7.
[Edited to fix a format problem]
[This message has been edited by Catch-22 (edited 01 April 2001).]


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an absolutely fantastic trip report! welcome to bluelight...
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thank you. this is one of the best trip reports i have ever read. very professional, if you will.
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very, very, VERY well said!
Be sure that you submit this report to Erowid too! This one is a keeper. :-)
Happy Trails,
DrWild
 
Very nice read, Catch 22. After gauging a few more oral doses, for a much more intense trip, try 20-25 insufflated. It eliminates the 2:00 wait, gives much more extreme visuals, and is very introspective. Just make sure you have plenty tissue around. It burns like the fire of a 1000 suns.
Also, next time your choose to go on another 7 journey, read my signature to yourself a few times when you're feeling most philosophical.
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We haven't been tapping into new areas of the brain...
We have just been awakening the most ancient.
 
do not, i repeat, DO NOT do 20-25 up your nose for the first time. railed dosage is totally independent of an oral dosage. And dont forget, the person who died on t7, snorted just a bit higher of a dosage.
i suggest starting at 10mg or even 5mg
 
25mg snorted?!?!?!? That would be insane. Insuffation of 2ct7 magnifies its potency by a factor of 4 as compaired to an oral dose. (eg 25mg snorted=100mg oral)
I dont think anyone in there right mind is going to recommend a 100mg oral dose of 2ct7.
Personally, I find 2ct7 far smoother when injested orally. Also, oral dosing with this compound has allowed me to enter a FAR more introspective state that by dosing via insufflation. The trip reports tend to bear this out. Those who snort 2ct7 report intense visuals. Those who eat their doses tend to enter an profoudly introspective mindspace aka "The Place".
Happy Trails,
DrWild
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Simply outstanding! These are issues that linger in the back of my mind too. Thank you for such a thoughtful, insightful, well written report.
 
doesn't dylan just take the words right out of yr head? this is the report that makes me want to do 7 now
 
bravo, that was amazing i felt like i was right there watchin you, thats my favorite report evern.
one question about 2ct7 how is it compared to lsd, i want to get some but it's expensive so i want to know is it worth it?
 
2CT7: Chemical Carousel

This thread describes a recent 2CT7 trip with 27.4 mg ingested orally in a capsule. My first 2CT7 trip was a month ago on a low to moderate dosage and I had a very enjoyable experience. [See the thread titled “2CT7: Man in the Mirror” in this forum.] While my first trip was planned pretty carefully days ahead of time, I was spontaneous this time and decided to trip just two hours before dosing.
In the past few weeks I have felt very social and have been busy with a variety of side projects. Most recently I read The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka. I had spent Saturday visiting a friend in a very large city in the southern United States and had crashed on his couch for the night. We had gone to see the movie Memento the night before and I woke up Sunday morning thinking about it. Before I left his house, my friend and I had a short but earnest discussion about how each of us were failing in our relationships with women. I mention The Metamorphosis, Memento and the conversation about relationships because they show up as themes in this trip.
I was lost in thought while driving back to the medium sized city in the southern United States where I live. I realized I felt well rested, was mentally in a positive frame of mind and had not eaten since a light dinner about 6 PM last night…so I spontaneously decided to trip. Around 11:30 AM I arrived back at my apartment, drank some water and quickly completed my obligations for the next couple of days. The last thing I wanted to do is discuss a project with a friend who I will call “CE” before she leaves town later in the week. I drive over to her house and we talk for fifteen minutes. Earlier I had told her about my first 2CT7 experience, and before leaving I inform her of my plans for a second trip today.
During my first trip I had spent a lot of time listening to my body which might have led to some hypochondriac symptoms. I decide that in this trip I want to go with the flow and not restrict myself by taking too many notes. I have my journal, a small tape recorder and a camcorder at my disposal. The quotations from me in this report were either written or recorded during the trip, and comments from other people are what they told me at a later time. I am in my mid- to late-20’s, take no medications and have no physical/mental problems.
Sunday, 4/29/01
12:15 PM (-0:15) = I take a Pepcid AC capsule, two Advil (each 200 mg Ibuprofen) and two Pepto Bismal chewables in hopes of settling my stomach and limiting any physical discomfort during the onset of the trip.
12:30 PM (0:00) = I ingest 27.4 mg of 2CT7 in a capsule. In my journal, I write down a few words to describe my mood just after I dosed: “Nervous, upbeat, energetic, curious, whimsical, hopeful, talkative, contemplative, calm and opportunistic.”
I resolve to actively move about my apartment and take minimal notes during the onset of the trip. UFOrb is playing on my CD player. I unload the dishwasher, re-arrange my refrigerator and clean up the mess from a painting I had started on Friday night. I unpack my overnight bag from the night before and walk out to my car to retrieve my golf clubs. Staying busy and active took the focus away from any physical discomfort I experienced during the beginning of my first 2CT7 trip. Meanwhile I am also thinking about the conversation I had with my friend earlier that morning.
12:55 PM (+0:25) = “Tingly”
1:15 PM (+0:45) = “Feeling of elation/energy”
1:37 PM (+1:07) = “Feel good. Head tingle. Body tingle.”
1:56 PM (+1:26) = I write the words “worm-like, enthused, numb, alive, loose” in my journal to describe how my body feels and I decide to take a shower.
~2:05 PM (+1:35) = I close my eyes while rinsing the shampoo out of my hair and experience some closed eye visuals. There are acute feelings of nausea for roughly one minute but it passes before I exit the shower. That was the only time during the trip where I felt like I could possibly become sick.
2:18 PM (+1:48) = I have dressed and throw The Best of John Coltrane in my CD player. I lay on my couch and watch the ceiling until I can nearly make the room spin.
At some point I spontaneously become highly aroused while lying on my back. The sensations were so intense that I might have been able to ejaculate/orgasm without even touching myself below the waist. I stopped myself in time but in hindsight wish I would have just let it happen. Even as I write this it seems impossible, but I guess it would be like having a “wet dream” while being awake.
I get up to walk around my apartment and finally lay on the bed to stretch my arms and legs. I look at the Dream Catcher I have hanging on my ceiling and notice the visuals emanating from it. Looking down, I see patterns on my plaid comforter/bedspread. I turn to roll off the bed and stop to look at my pillow and the dark blue pillowcase appears to be burgundy, crimson red and the original shade of dark blue all at the same time. I puzzle over how this could be?
I leave the bedroom and walk to the front of my apartment. I open the door and stand on the walkway, and I soon see the clouds in the sky twist and turn in hallucinogenic patterns. The rustling of leaves in the wind almost makes the nearby trees seem like they are communicating with me. I look over the side of the balcony and see complex patterns amidst the stains and blemishes in the concrete parking lot of my apartment complex.
At this point I realize the trip is turning intensely visual, and also quickly realize I am tripping in the middle of Sunday afternoon in a bustling apartment complex. Someone downstairs is moving out and there is plenty of commotion as several people load furniture into a U-Haul truck. There are confusing and distracting flashes of noise from the nearby street as the thumping stereos of speeding cars fade in and out of earshot. It also did not help that I was hungry and some neighbors in the next building had started a BBQ!
~3:00 PM (+2:30) Setting is very important to me while tripping. I call CE on the phone (pushing the numbers correctly on the first try!) and explain that I am still coming up but feel restricted and agitated by my environment. Can I use her house? She offers to come pick me up, but it is only a short walk to her house. I am not incapacitated but just restless and tell her I will see her soon. I leave my journal but bring my camcorder and tape recorder with me on the ½ mile walk to her house. The walk was dreamlike and serene with joggers passing me on the sidewalk and lots of cars driving by. Everything was great except for an unpleasant (but not prohibitive) pressure build up in the back of my head about 75% of the way to CE’s house.
~3:15 PM (+2:45) = CE lives alone in a two-story house with a fenced yard. I arrive and she asks me to make myself at home, being very nice to her unexpected visitor. She continues to work in her office running computer simulations and says she will check on me from time to time. The best visuals of the trip were when I was laying on my back in her yard, watching the sky on this partly cloudy Sunday afternoon. The pressure build up in the back of my head from the walking disappeared as soon as I went perpendicular and did not return during the trip.
It seemed as though I could make the clouds do whatever I wanted them to do. The single most powerful visual was when I watched a cloud suddenly stop, become very circular and start rotating like a carousel. An elegant kaleidoscope pattern began shifting in and out from the center of the spinning cloud. I tried to describe it into the tape recorder but the key phrase was when I called it a “chemical carousel”. That really seems to capture the essence of the visual and also this entire 2CT7 trip.
Auditory hallucinations were also apparent. Although no music was playing in the background, I told the tape recorder I heard “Italian church music” (?) and a hard rock song for several minutes. CE’s yard is about 250 yards from a semi-busy road where maybe one car passes every minute or so. I would guess the faint sounds of a car stereo provided my mind with a snippet of music (like an auditory tracer) that reverberated into an entire song. (As an example, it might be like the car horn noise in Toxygene by The Orb.) The only actual sounds audible on my tape recorder while lying in CE’s yard were birds chirping, leaves rustling or one of her wind chimes.
I continue to watch the sky as CE’s cat sat down next to me and wedged its body into the space between my neck and right shoulder, covering my right ear. Although I have never liked this cat, I was so relaxed that I let it curl up with me for a long time. I continued to watch the visuals in the sky with the muffled sound of the cat breathing in my right ear. When I finally sat up, I looked back to CE’s cat and hallucinated that it was speaking to me. The words were unclear and garbled, and my mind flashed to the beginning of The Metamorphosis were the protagonist tries to speak but can barely be understood because he is no longer human.
Sitting in the grass, still trying to make sense of what the cat might have said to me, I suddenly became aware my left hand was tingling. I lifted it out of the grass, turned it palm up and saw my hand “bubble” up to twice its normal size. Wave patterns began washing over my hand and I glance away in surprise. When I look back, I notice several small but obvious depressions in my hand as it continued to tingle. Is this a hallucination or have I been bitten by something in her yard? I get up and wobble into the house to show CE my hand and ask her if anything seems unusual. She just laughed at me and reminded me I was tripping.
Since I was already on my feet, I go into the bathroom on the first floor and look at myself in the mirror. I appear sweaty and slightly red. “I’m having some mouth tension. Shaking. Feel great...” My heart seems to be racing and I am a little concerned about my physical appearance. I ask CE to check my pulse and she takes a one-minute reading by holding my wrist. She later told me that my pulse was a strong 79 beats per minute but my heart was beating somewhat irregularly. (For comparison purposes, two days after this trip CE took my resting pulse and counted 70 beats per minute with no irregularities.)
I returned outside to explore CE’s yard. One visual I remember is when I watched a piece of wood that marks the perimeter of CE’s garden. I saw the wood as how it had once been, how it looked now and how it would look much later in time. Perhaps I could even see the three at the same time, like the colors of a pillowcase in my apartment. CE’s cat suddenly stepped onto it, and I began laughing in anticipation of its paw sinking through but the piece of wood held firm and supported the weight of the cat.
Looking around her garden, I turned on the water hose and played with the water for a few minutes. I playfully took a drink of water from the hose, which reminded me I was very thirsty! I returned inside and heisted a Diet Coke from the refrigerator. Since she was working on the computer in her office, I decided to explore CE’s house for a while. This was where the trip started to become less visual and more contemplative and reflective.
I have known CE for nearly five years and have been inside her house so many times, but I began to realize that I really did not know her very well. I did not know what kind of music she preferred. I have eaten dinner with her dozens of times, but looking in her refrigerator I had no idea what kind of foods I would expect to see. While I am thinking this, I begin to remember all the compliments she had paid me during our relationship and how she routinely expressed that she felt she knew me pretty well. I kind of felt sad that I had known her all this time but the familiarity was not reciprocated.
The next time CE took my pulse I tried to communicate what I was thinking but I just rambled about things other than what I meant to say. My pulse this time was 81 beats per minute. I wanted to tell her that I felt bad for not putting as much effort into our relationship as she did but I probably was not very coherent.
When she went back to her office, I became interested in trying to communicate and became more loquacious with the camcorder. I taped myself for fifteen minutes trying to explain the movie Memento. The tape is pretty humorous because my thoughts became so complicated that I get sidetracked a dozen times and never come close to giving a reasonable explanation of the movie’s plot. Amidst the rambling soliloquy are phrases like “he haphazardly swings from one vine of thought to the next in a jungle of his own mind.” Say what?
While trying to explain the plot of the movie, I get sidetracked onto a variety of unusual tangents. I talk about dreams and dream-like states where you are thinking about something and have no idea what started you on that course. The main character in Memento has to tattoo messages on his body to remind him that his purpose in life is to track down the people who hurt his wife, and without this reminder he would be completely adrift. A couple of minutes are spent talking about how the character organized his mind and surroundings in a deliberately (?) flawed manner. I tie some of it into my own behavior with how the character interacts with other people and how both the character and myself would be better off paying closer attention to others.
Trying to talk (and attempting to make sense!) into the camcorder left me tired and tongue-tied. I became aware I was really hungry so I wandered into CE’s office to ask if she could order a pepperoni pizza for me. I returned to her living room and sprawled out on the floor. “It’s a lot more fun to lay on someone else’s living room floor than lay down on your own… [Laughter] It’s great that she can be so relaxed about things. Here I am…on the floor of her living room… [Laughter] I’m blissfully impaired right now.”
My mind again returned to the protagonist from The Metamorphosis. What would CE do if she came in and I had turned into a cockroach? I again look at my hand and it transformed before my eyes. I could not feel my own heart beat. She must have heard me laughing because she came to take my pulse a third time. I kept talking and then began laughing, which cracked her up and caused her to lose the exact pulse rate but she told me it was basically the same as the other two times.
5:00 PM (+4:30) = CE ordered the pizza and I sat on her couch taping random thoughts. I thought about how I was similar to the John Hurt character in Altered States. I felt bad thinking how coolly that character treated everyone in that movie, and especially his girlfriend/wife/ex-wife. I thought about how he let her be close to him only if she could be useful to him, but he basically shut her out if she slowed him down or got in the way of his personal goals.
5:15-5:30 PM (+4:45-5:00) = CE sets a pizza on the coffee table in front of me and opens the box. At first I do not recognize it as a pizza. I had one slice and it just felt like I was “consuming something” but it was great. I had a second slice and then noticed the crust looked odd…really odd! (Only later did I figure out she had ordered Pizza Hut’s new Twisted Crust pizza.) I ate roughly half of a third slice before I was distracted by the sounds of other voices in the house. I take a walk around and CE is the only one here beside myself.
I go outside and again enjoy looking at the sky. The only sounds are a bird chirping, a car cruising by or the breeze rustling the leaves in the trees. The visual part of the trip is definitely on the decline and things are turning very introspective. I felt a change in scenery was needed but realized my apartment complex might be noisy and intrusive on a Sunday night. I wanted a quiet, isolated place so I decided to ask CE to drive me into my place of employment. I could relax in my large office and would be free to move around. (I can not explain too much about my circumstances, but I work in an isolated part of a building and am so comfortable there that it might as well be a second living room to me.)
~5:55 PM (+5:25) = CE tries to talk me out of going into work but finally decides it makes sense and agrees to give me a ride in her car. During the five minute drive, she commented how “normal” I seemed to her. She observed that my mannerisms were fairly typical. While in her car, I promised myself to talk to her later about the feelings I had about my lack of reciprocation in our relationship. We arrived and she watched me enter the building through a side door.
~6:00 PM (+5:30) = I walk into my office and turn on my computer, getting some visuals off the Microsoft logo while it was booting. While I began making some notes about relationships on a sheet of paper, I listened to some uptempo music such as Spaced Invaders by Hatiras. I checked into a chat room where I am a regular and interacted with some friends who did not know I was tripping. The next day I read the log and saw my comments were nonlinear but mostly just humorous or reflective.
6:37 PM (+6:07) = Someone who I will call “BL” signed onto AIM. I have been chatting with BL since she e-mailed me about my first 2CT7 trip report. I explained what I was up to and she expressed amazement I could still type. I started haphazardly recounting my experience so far and together we worked through some of the differences between my first and second trip (up to this point).
I felt uncomfortable sitting at the computer and strolled around my office looking at things (faint visuals and tracers still present) while continuing to think. I “chat” on the computer in bursts, continuing to play music while sometimes making notes on the sheet of paper. BL suggests a good song for me to download and I really enjoy Rain by XDream. I get tired of the computer and trying to concentrate on typing, so I drop out of the chat room with my friends and make arrangements for BL to call me later. While things are turning meditative, my body is warming back up and this trip could take another turn of sensual arousal if I was so inclined.
~9:00 PM (+8:30) = BL calls me on the phone and we speak for the first time. Perhaps I am more lucid than when I was trying to express my thoughts to CE, but I felt closer to BL (a stranger) than I did to CE (a friend for nearly for five years). BL was very nice and accommodating, even though due to my state of mind the conversation was jagged with lots of twists and turns. I had the feeling I was leaving out things I wanted to say while repeating something I had already said. BL wrote me an email later that night saying she had a “fantastic time” talking with me on the phone, and later told me she was impressed that I “could still hold a good conversation.”
There were a lot of personal details shared in my conversation with BL but I will try to describe the general gist of our discussions. We spoke about how relationships are initiated (both friendships and romantic ones) and a few of my patterns of behavior became clear. While I value my relationships with people, my friends typically invest more in me than I do into them. I have grown complacent in how I interact with people. I feel other people (especially women) try to manipulate me, so I sometimes have no compunctions about manipulating them (although not deceiving them) in return. I regularly judge new people very quickly and then will not give them a second chance to make a favorable impression with me. I will use short cuts to save time instead of enjoying the process of making a new friend or developing a romantic relationship. Once I achieve a certain level of comfortable interaction with someone, I do not try to take it much further.
~10:15 PM (+9:45) = I become aware of the time and get off the phone with BL so I can call CE for a ride home. It is past CE’s regular bedtime so I decide not to try to talk to her about our relationship. She graciously comes to pick me up at work and sees me back to my apartment. Once home, I pace around my living room thinking and drinking plenty of water. I also take a Centrum (multi-vitamin) and two Advil (each 200-mg ibuprofen). I make some notes in my journal about my mindset and how I feel physically.
11:30 PM (+11:00) = I sit down at my computer and begin writing.
5:00 AM (+16:30) = I eat a small meal and continue to drink plenty of fluids.
6:15 AM (+17:45) = I decide to stop writing after about 7800 words, including about 300 words of a quick outline for this trip report. I could continue writing but do not want to disturb my sleeping patterns too badly. I try to relax and do some light stretching.
6:30 AM (+18:00) = I lay in bed thinking and fall asleep after about thirty minutes. I slept soundly until around 2 PM.
Now that a few days have passed, I will share my experiences with the mental and physical side effects following a 2CT7 trip:
Negative = I did not drink enough water ahead of time so I was mildly dehydrated. It took my digestive system about a day to fully recover from not eating from 6 PM Saturday night until 5:15-5:30 PM on Sunday, but the side effects were not very serious. A dull type of body fatigue headache was present when I woke up on Monday afternoon, but I attribute this to the dehydration and lack of food because it went away after eating a quick meal. I also experienced some minor aches in my body, which is understandable and maybe even attributable to sleeping on a couch Saturday night. In my opinion, the biggest negative of this trip was the disruption to my regular sleeping schedule. I sleep well but it will take a couple days to re-establish my normal pattern of going to bed between 1-2 AM and waking up around 8-10 AM.
Positive = I always enjoy the afterglow associated with tripping. Physically I feel alert and responsive. Psychologically I have been reflecting on some of the ways I interact with others and have already tried to make some changes by paying more attention to people. Tuesday afternoon I had the postponed conversation with CE regarding our friendship. Another interesting aspect of the afterglow is an increase in dream activity, and the dreams have been exceptionably pleasant and enjoyable. I also feel enthusiastic and like all of my psychedelic experiences, the afterglow allows me to look at familiar things in a fresh way.
In conclusion, I think this trip and the 2CT7 experience itself are like a chemical carousel. The different phases of a 2CT7 trip (sensual feelings, intense visuals, a reflective/introspective time and finally the afterglow) are each enjoyable to me. When these different aspects are combined, however, it creates a tremendously fun and enlightening adventure. I have firm plans to share a 2CT7 trip with BL in June and tentative plans to trip with CE in July.
 
wow, a lot of good stuff in there man. just have one question for experienced ct7'ers: what is preferred for tripping on ct7, doing it by yourself as catch did, or doing it with a group of friends? jus tryin to plan some shit for this summer...
 
What a great report Catch-22, I thoroughly enjoyed reading it! In the future would you ever consider taking a t-7 trip in a more recreational setting, say a party for instance, or do you value the drug more for it's introspective qualities?
 
Fantastic report! You really make it sound worth trying. Maybe someday I will get to.
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Intelligence is like a river - the deeper it flows, the less noise it makes.
 
Amazing! T7 on a Golf Course!

A few weeks ago my friend and I took a powerful 2CT7 trip! It was a real eye opener and we experienced the strongest psychedelic trip of our lives. Both of us are in our mid-20's and have no physical or mental problems. Each of us are familiar with regular acid, and I am typically more sensitive while she is generally less sensitive with psychedelics than the average person. This wrap-up also has some info that might be of interest to others. Enjoy!
7 PM: I had tried T7 previously but this was my friend's first time. We each swallowed a capsule of 35-40 mg of 2CT7 and washed it down with orange-flavored Gatorade. Neither of us had eaten since late last night but we had drunk plenty of fluids during the day to avoid dehydration. I can remember feeling very comfortable with her. We had both slept until noon, and the afternoon had been a relaxing mix of sex and watching some movies rented from Blockbuster. We had shared a shower right before dosing.
We had previously agreed she would be in charge of the evening's musical selections. She loaded some progressive trance into my stereo and started reading one of my books about drug culture. Crazy as it sounds, I decided to start a 500-piece jigsaw puzzle and not surprisingly I had serious problems even fitting the obvious pieces together. She watched with amusement and occasionally helped me.
8:15 PM: I was feeling tense and restless and had a knot in my stomach. We go to my bedroom so she can give me a backrub. I experience the "first alert" while lying on my stomach as she continued to rub my back with her warm hands. The knot in my stomach was gone, and I rolled onto my back and we lay in bed caressing each other. My friend said that she felt less than normal tolerance for physical discomfort at this point.
One of the reasons she wanted to try T7 is because she loves to roll and was curious about the similarities and differences. I have only had one very weak (or maybe bunk?) dose of ecstasy and did not feel much, so I am in no position to make comparisons. She got out of bed to change the music and returned with some glow sticks to give me a light show. The discomfort in my stomach returned as I watched the whirl of colors and the trails and visual distortions were obvious. She removed a shoelace from an old pair of shoes and used it to spin the purple and green sticks around the room, and at this point she experienced her "first alert". We begin laughing as I said I could see words in the patterns of colors. My discomfort had passed, and feeling a burst of energy we agreed to go for a walk.
9 PM: As I tried to put on a pair of socks, she did a few whippets and paced about the room. Then the T7 really kicked in for her, and she sat on the couch completely transfixed by the dramatic visuals. For about thirty minutes she was visibly shaking, mostly in her legs and arms. She was staring at the ceiling and telling me how awesome it was between bursts of laughter. I sat next to her and looked around my apartment, waiting for us to adjust to the power of our hallucinations.
Suddenly I felt the nausea returning as I began to shift into an even more powerful psychedelic realm. In hindsight, I can see that the physical discomfort I experienced during the come up happened in three distinct waves. The first stage was right before "first alert", the second was shortly after the light show and the final happened as I sat on the couch.
Closing my eyes, I forgot about my existence and felt adrift in a world of movement and color. I was a mere speck, and everything swam around me in a soupy mix as I went downstream of my consciousness. I was pulled out of my personal revelry when she announced she was now ready to go explore the world outside my apartment.
I made the mistake of trying to get up too soon. I crawled to the door and we went out onto my balcony. A few seconds later I experienced an upset stomach and had nasty dry heaves over the side of the railing. This was the first time I had ever gotten sick while tripping. Thank goodness we had dosed on an empty stomach! A couple minutes later I was fine and the intensity of the trip continued to climb higher and higher.
9:45 PM: We left my apartment and began walking down the street. The weather conditions that night were 65F with little or no breeze. Between us we carried the keys to my apartment and a bottle of Gatorade, leaving everything else behind including my watch. She walked barefoot and delighted in feeling all the different kinds of grass in the yards we passed. We decided to go to the nearby golf course and watch the stars together. I held her hand and we left my neighborhood. It was absolutely surreal passing all the everyday objects. Trees were lush and vibrant while the passing cars produced a variety of auditory distortions.
I felt very comfortable with my friend as we walked along a bike path that was about five feet lower and ten feet removed from a moderately busy street. The other side of the bike path was a ditch that seemed bursting with flora and fauna, and we marveled at the nature on one side of us while the rush of society went by the other. I know it sounds crazy to walk alongside a road while tripping so hard, but we both felt safe and I particularly enjoyed the sensations of seeing familiar objects in such a distorted way.
We reached the edge of a golf course I have played many times. Crossing a couple of fairways, we distanced ourselves from the roads and lights and settled down on a raised patch of ground (well, actually the 16th tee box). The sensations were so incredible. Everything was moving. The sky was overcast but the stars provided sufficient illumination to create shadows amongst the trees. An incredible number and variety of nature sounds provided a compelling soundtrack.
I lay down on the ground and my thoughts were so intensely lucid. I would close my eyes and imagine fantastic visions, partially "real world" situations mixed with whatever else popped into my imagination. The grass was soft and alive with entire worlds of other lifeforms. (This was confirmed the next day when I found about a dozen bite marks on my legs, but it did not seem to bother me at the time!)
I left my friend on the tee box and walked to a bench about 100 feet away. I leaned back and watched the entire golf course swirl in unifying patterns. Circles of green expanded and contracted, and I saw my friend was sitting in the center of one of these patterns. She was lost in thought, motionless as if she was straining to hear something. She appeared to levitate and then slowly dropped down until she disappeared beneath the ground.
At some point I heard my name so I pulled myself together and walked over to her. She had gone into a trance of sorts, and when she had snapped out of it she had felt alone and completely disoriented. After we talked for a minute she was feeling fine again. We took the opportunity to share what we were experiencing and lucidly discussed how T7 altered our perceptions. She had wanted a strong trip and the oral dose of 35-40 mg was definitely giving her a powerful first time experience. She said that T7 is more of an introspective journey and would be too overwhelming to enjoy as a "rave" drug.
In my previous experiences, I had noticed something about T7 that both of us were very aware of during this trip. It seemed that the T7 shifts into different phases: for a while we get intense visuals, then intense auditory sensations, followed by perhaps particularly lucid thinking, and then possibly olfactory awareness. But it seemed to us that at a given time one sensation took clear precedence over all the others until the next shift occurred. (Has anyone else noticed this?)
I returned to my bench and just enjoyed the feelings of elation I was experiencing. I remembered a variety of people, places and things that had not come to mind in years. I noticed that the automated sprinkler system had started up on the 15th green. I ran barefoot through the sprinklers, getting thoroughly soaked and enjoying every minute of it. As water dripped off my face and arms, I was reminded of a certain event and managed to make a few important realizations about my life by the time that I returned to the bench. Meanwhile my friend wandered around the 14th fairway, taking exaggeratedly delicate steps.
We decided to explore the golf course and were amazed at our complete loss of the sense of time. I knew certain distances on the golf course, and I asked her to count aloud as I briskly walked to a certain point and back to her. She had to struggle not to laugh! It seemed like I was gone for a loooong time but the actual time was appropriate for the distance I had walked.
Train tracks run along the east side of the golf course and at some point we were walking on the 15th fairway when I thought heard a train whistle. Soon a second and third whistle confirmed that a train was on the way. We rushed back across several fairways and took a seat on a raised patch of ground a safe distance from the spectacle. Watching this huge train rambling down the tracks was an incredible visual and auditory experience. We both watched in wide-eyed amazement as the train crawled by at a snail’s pace. It felt like hours passed before the train went out of sight.
We talked excitedly for a few minutes about the shared auditory effects we had experienced. I was reminded of an earlier idea of whether it is possible for humans to share an appreciation for all points of view if we share something this powerful. I began to realize a few things. They sound out of context without sharing all the details, but basically I am on a journey and usually the path is very wide but sometimes it is narrow. At some points the path is so narrow that barely one person can pass through at a time, and bottlenecks such as these will always disrupt my life if I lose my perspective.
The golf course had been a blast but we began to wonder how much time had passed and maybe we should return to my apartment. I took my friend by the hand and we retraced our steps. At some point she began to feel her trip receding and expressed she was again becoming conscious of how she was viewed by the world. We walked through my neighborhood and suddenly we were both very exhausted as we climbed the stairs to my second floor apartment. The next day we measured the round trip distance of our walk to the golf course and it was about 2.7 miles.
1:15 AM: Once inside, we drank plenty of fluids and took separate showers. My friend again made the musical selections. I wrote some notes about the experience but at the time was barely able to read my words. She relaxed on the couch and alternated between absently toying with a glow stick and leaning back with her eyes closed. We individually absorbed the powerful experience we just shared. Eventually I joined her on the couch and began to continuously rub her feet and legs for the next two hours. We shared a variety of stories that ranged from trivial to important to humorous.
4:30 AM: I suggested we go lie in bed so we can be more comfortable. We continued to talk as she curled up in my arms. Eventually we gave sex a try but unfortunately because of the T7 I was not able to perform very well. She said for her the sex was similar to her experiences with rolling. It felt great yet took her forever to climax, but once she got there she experienced some strong orgasms.
7:00 AM: My friend was ready to go to sleep but asked me to wake her up if I made some french fries (inside joke). I went to the living room to write in my journal. After a while, I cooked some fries and carried a plate into the bedroom and woke her up. We ate in bed, then cuddled up and talked some more with the covers pulled over us. We both fell asleep some time around 10 AM.
We woke up about seven hours later feeling very good and humbled by our powerful experience. We each had a slight headache but felt alert and very happy. We both were glad the trip had gone so well and that we had meshed together so wonderfully. To celebrate, we got dressed and went to my favorite restaurant. Daily reality felt so new and fresh! I pledged to remember our shared experience and the insights I gained for a long time to come.
 
30 mg 2CT7 – Experienced User – Telescoping Reality

I am a healthy male in his late 20's. I have no mental/physical illnesses and am not on any prescription medications. At the time of this trip, I had not used any drugs and very little alcohol for the previous six months. Psychedelics are my favorite substances and this is my fourth 2CT7 experience. My mood before the trip was happy, curious and contemplative. I prepared an hour ahead of time by drinking plenty of fluids and taking a multi-vitamin, two Advil and two Pepcid AC. I felt great except for being slightly hungry from fasting for ~20 hours. The dosage was weighed out on a balance sensitive to 0.0 mg and taken orally in a capsule. The only substance taken on this trip was the 2CT7 bought from a commercial source. I intended to trip without music and as free from distractions as possible. I recorded my thoughts into a portable tape recorder and also kept transcripts from being logged into #bluelight.
1:30 PM (T = 0:00) I am alone in my comfortable 1 bedroom/1 bath apartment when I ingest 30 mg 2CT7. I immediately get in my car and drive 2.4 miles to "work," a place where I have my own private office and will not be disturbed. I check my email and sign into #bluelight.
2:05 PM (T = 0:35) I get up from the computer at the first sign I am off baseline. I wander around my office for a while before beginning to walk home. Outside the temperature is cold and the skies are mostly overcast. It begins to drizzle lightly during my walk. I feel some pressure in my head but all hints of hunger are gone. I appreciate the sound of a fallen leaf scraping across a paved road. I am amazed by the way birds accumulate on certain power-lines as they prepare to fly south for winter. I am almost floating and my head seems to be reaching the lower branches of the trees that line the sidewalks. I have sweated through my clothes and begin to feel nauseous as I reach my apartment building.
2:53 PM (T = 1:23) I enter my apartment and draw a full bath. I undress and climb into the water. I listen to myself talk into the tape recorder while my ears are submerged in the water. I am only partially coherent and definitely tripping hard at this point. I dunk my head under the water multiple times. All sense of time is distorted, but based on the water splashing sounds caught on my tape recorder, I was completely underwater for 20-30 seconds at a time. This really blew me up and everything became very intense. At some point, I get out of the bath and climb into my bed. I feel physically weak. I am glad to be alone and say: "Everything is jumping. Everything is aglow. Everything is twitching. Everything is sharp in focus."
3:39 PM (T = 2:09) I smell chlorine while lying in bed. I begin to scare myself and it feels very nice. I hear birds flying overhead outside my bedroom window. I realize I am seeing the same things whether my eyes are open or closed. No music is playing but there is a continuous reverberating beat in my head. At some point I get out of bed and wander around my apartment. I tell the tape recorder that my mind is imagining a chair. I can put things in the chair but for some reason I can not sit down on it. I am incapable of confronting myself and I am laughing the entire time.
4:45 PM (T = 3:15) I feel like I am absorbing tremendous amounts of new information very quickly. Eventually, however, everything keeps numbingly repeating itself in a continuous loop. At some point I notice that everything is very bright and I doubt whether I am still "here." I repeat multiple times that it is too bright in my apartment and I seek out the source of illumination. I am loquacious but slur my words. I tell the tape recorder that I am tripping harder than ever at this point. Everything hurts yet feels so wonderful.
5:27 PM (T = 3:57) I see reflections of myself off the ordinary white walls in my living room. I realize it is my imagination, but I still wonder why I am "watching" myself. I can create a separate world in my mind but in a second it is all gone. I am feeling tremendous amounts of deja vu regarding my environment and wonder if it is a form of mind reading. I question what parts of my own existence are imagined because it seems like a very convincing lucid dream.
6:10 PM (T= 4:40) The peak seems to have passed but things are still very interesting. I do not know where my thoughts are coming from. I tell the tape recorder that I feel much more coherent despite the fact that my comments are slurred, rambling and cryptic.
7:45 PM (T = 6:15) I begin to think my voice sounds strange, breathless and distant. Speaking into the tape recorder is like addressing someone off-camera while a movie is being filmed. I am relaxed and in good humor. I decide to walk back to work and leave my apartment at an unknown time. It is colder now and dark with mostly clear skies. Along the way I find a random picnic table, and enthusiastically stand on top of it and act crazy for a couple minutes. I walk to a bank and stroll through the drive-thru windows, amazed by how the service portals are so low to the ground. I reach my place of work and find a co-worker in the next room scraping glass with a scalpel. Worse than fingernails on a chalkboard!
8:48 PM (T = 7:18) I am physically tired and need to rest. I sit down at my computer and find I have been the victim of a dreaded "ping time out." I sign back into #bluelight but everything is too surreal so I only talk in private windows. I tell fizzy that I have felt like I am a character in a movie, and for the first time realize that the fact that I am writing a screenplay has probably influenced this experience. I tell Mellabopper that the trip has been very rewarding and it has felt like a lucid dream. Both conversations were good considering the fact that I was having trouble typing. When I get up to walk around, I feel rested and decide I am close enough to baseline to try to drive home.
9:57 PM (T = 8:27) I seem playful and relaxed as I cautiously drive back to my apartment. After a light dinner, I try to describe some of my thoughts into the tape recorder. I am completely unfocused and scattered, and an attempted analogy segues into a rambling discussion of music and sex. I turn on the television and watch Twitch City and part of the History of Sex series on TLC. I work on my screenplay for several hours before going to bed at 4 AM and falling asleep in less than ten minutes. I awake from an extremely vivid lucid dream at 11 AM.
Throughout the trip the visuals were intense but almost incidental to the dizzying thoughts in my mind. The unifying "message" of the trip was that I should contemplate life's big questions from a lofty perspective instead of looking up from the gutter. The best way to summarize this trip is from something I told the tape recorder around T = 3:00. I imagined being awakened from a nap by a ringing phone. I answer the phone only to realize it is a neighbor's phone ringing. A second passes before I recognize the sound is not a ringing phone at all. It takes me another second to realize that everything is quiet and there has been no sound. Finally I figure out that I am actually still asleep. The world seemed like a telescoping reality that shifted every time I tried to make sense of it.
Three weeks have passed since this trip. The mental afterglow continued for at least ten days with lucid dreams each night and a general sense of well being. There were a few negative physical side effects (stomach discomfort, sore muscles and constipation) but they all passed within 24 hours. 2CT7 is very hard on your body and probably not a good choice as a recreational drug. This trip was different from my three previous 2CT7 experiences in a few ways. The third trip (dosage = 36 mg) had the strongest visuals and was the most physically enjoyable. The sexual feelings were strongest the first (dosage = 18 mg) and second (dosage = 27 mg) times despite the fact that I had actual sex during the third trip. This time, however, any sexual feelings were completely absent. This trip was definitely the best in an introspective sense. Both this and the third trips were the most enjoyable in their own way, and maybe my ideal arrangement would be alternating experiences between tripping alone and tripping with others. I plan on continuing with moderate 2CT7 usage in the future and my best dosage seems to be ~30-35 mg.
[ 30 December 2001: Message edited by: Catch-22 ]
 
nice report, oldie ;)
i enjoyed reading it
I begin to scare myself and it feels very nice
^ i love you :D
(i just recently read catch22, trippy book hehe; pretty difficult too read, dutch, 16 y old)
and your 4th trip was pretty different heh? was it maybe because you were in a complete different mindsetting?
anyway keep it up \o/ !
[ 30 December 2001: Message edited by: Chris_nl ]
 
Great report. It is set out like all trip reports should be :) Very interesting read, as it is yet another drug I have never done, would like to experience but probably never will.
 
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