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2C-I - First Time - HUGE dose

kittyinthedark

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2CI - First Time - HUGE dose

A somewhat shady character (we didn't think he was until after this event) sold me and my boyfriend what he claimed to us was 2CB but was actually 2CI. We weren't sure which it was, as he had told one of our friends that it was 2CI even though he told us it was 2CB. Either way, we both wanted to try it, whichever it was. However, 2CB requires a much higher dose, and since we both thought it was 2CB we each took 37.5 milligrams (just swallowed the powder - nasty tasting, but not THAT bad). This resulted in quite an amazing trip.

I came up very, very fast (peaking within 45 minutes), and right away began experiencing very intense visual distortion. Everything around me was "melting" and shape-shifting - it was somewhat difficult to read. Nothing was standing still. Anywhere there was white space (walls, etc.) I saw rainbow-colored fractal-like designs. There were very few CEV's, but I typically don't have them with other psychedelics either. Every time I went to the bathroom (which was often, this stuff is a STRONG diuretic) I would end up staring at my face in the mirror for at least five minutes. Even with all the distortion, I actually decided that I was beautiful, a rare thing for me because i have a horrible self-image problem.

I spent a large portion of the evening sitting in a room with 3 or 4 other people talking and joking (the others were stoned and/or drunk). I was actually able to retain almost all of my intellectual capability, and found myself making puns left and right. I was in a very good mood, and I liked laughing a lot. After a while, one of my friends wanted to walk to the convenience store nearby to get some munchies, so we all went outside. The nighttime air was cool and crisp and remarkably refreshing. The breeze felt amazing on my skin. When we got back to the house I just wanted to lie in bed, so I did, and it was awesome! Eventually we went to George Webbs, cuz one of my friends wanted to eat. That was a bad time, but you can read about that in the thread about lsd and alcohol.

After Webbs, everyone decided to go home, so my boyfriend and I ended up alone at his house. We had an amazing conversation, talking about existence and our feelings. I reached many levels of self-realization. I was very easily able to think about, discuss, and analyze my depression, which i normally have a really hard time dealing with. I was sad for a bit that i was going to have to "go back to normal" in a few hours. My wonderful bf then gave me a back rub - i didn't know that psychedelics could create that nice of a body feeling!!! Lighter pressure felt similar in some ways to the body feeling of ecstasy, and stronger pressure just felt wonderfully relaxing. Then we played some FFX, and incredibly awesome experience because of the graphics and the catchy music. (Have I used the word "awesome" enough? definitely a substance I want to try again...)

After that I had to get home, so I went home to bed, and found that I couldn't sleep at all. The non-sleep aspect of this drug was the only really bad part. I ended up not sleeping for over 30 hours straight because I couldn't get to sleep at all. My boyfriend seemed to have significantly less trouble with that. I also had a bit of a weird feeling in my stomach, not quite nausea, but it didn't really bother me at all. My mind was totally elsewhere. Overall it was a great experience. "Peak" time lasted for about 5-6 hours with the beginning of the comedown starting after about 4 hours. I would like to try this with a smaller dose to see if it alleviates any of the side effects. Definitely an A+ experience, even with the not-as-great parts :)
 
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I've read that there has never been a fatal case. It did not cost a fortune because I have some friends very high up on the food chain. I would also like to know where you found out that 37.5 mg would kill me.

EDIT: i think you misread my post. I wrote "mgrams" for milligrams. I'm gonna change that to mg so no one else gets confused. Yeah, 37.5 grams would be a fuckin boatload... :)
 
Good advice: Don't buy mystery pills from people at these kind of events. Especially when they offer hard-to-find items like 2C-B or mescaline. Sounds to good to be true...probably is.
 
Actually 2C-B usually requires higher doses than 2C-I.

But you knew that, and I'm sure that's what you meant.

But the dose you took is very much on the large side for either one! What made you decide to dose so high your first time?
 
That sounds about right. 2ci isnt really that mind blowing for me. The visuals can be outright amazing, but other than that, my head is lucid at even the most heroic of doses. I still insist on my initial point of the substance losing its "edge" at the 20mg mark for many at higher doses. It becomes a pretty deep psychedelic and I am surprised to note a whole lot less negative effects than at lower doses. Odd.
 
kittyinthedark said:
I've read that there has never been a fatal case. It did not cost a fortune because I have some friends very high up on the food chain. I would also like to know where you found out that 37.5 mg would kill me.

EDIT: i think you misread my post. I wrote "mgrams" for milligrams. I'm gonna change that to mg so no one else gets confused. Yeah, 37.5 grams would be a fuckin boatload... :)
I misread it. I was seeing 37.5 grams, which would cost a fortune, and probably would kill someone.
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Hello all:

I'm kitty's bf and I think the reason we started with such a "high" dose was that, according to Erowid, a "strong" dose of 2C-B is anywhere from 20-50mg. I'm a pretty experienced psychonaut, and I usually like to start off strong with new substances. This may not always be the greatest idea, but I always research my chemicals before I ingest them so I never go above the highest recommended "safe" dose. I've also never had a "bad trip" or anything like that.

However, mgs, I actually procured this substance from who I thought was a trusted friend, however, he must have felt the need to lie to me for some reason. Guess I learned my lesson on that one. And it wasn't delivered as a pill, just a bindle of white powder.
 
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Morningglory: there was no event. This was at my bf's house, and we had purchased other things from this guy before. Several times actually, and he fully had our trust. This occasion has led my bf and myself to completely cut ties with him. That sort of thing is just completely unacceptable....

Bluedolphin: thanks for the heads up, that is what i meant, what i wrote didn't make any sense... :)
 
I think you're a bit cocky mw.stoner. i think shulgin's little every trip is significant quote is in order. 37.5mg of both 2cb and 2ci is a huge dosage, and I personally wouldn't jump into the deep end the first time, let alone the possibly dangerous end.
 
You ought to do more than just cut ties to him. Snitches get stiches, so I absolutely don't suggest involving law enforcement.

But this person abused your trust and lied to you which in turn caused to to take an innacurate amount of a substance which can WELL have harmful effects, perhaps of the permanent nature. I personally sure wasn't right for a couple of days after 20mg 2C-I...

The point is, you could be dead, and he'd be laughing all the way to the bank. I would even go so far as to say in the interest of harm control, you are morally obligated to throw a wrench in this guy's doings - how long till he sells some PMA to a 16 year old?
 
the difference between a 2C-B dosage and a 2C-I dosage is not that much, 10-20% difference. the biggest physical danger was due to them taking 37.5mg, which is a very large dose for both chemicals.
 
I thought the potency differences were much greater than just 10% to 20% between 2C-I and 2C-B. I can reach a plus-three with just 16mg of 2C-I, but it takes around 25mg for me to get to a plus-three with 2C-B. But it seems with the 2Cs, everyone is different.
 
Re: 2CI - First Time - HUGE dose

kittyinthedark said:
(just swallowed the powder - nasty tasting, but not THAT bad).

An easy way to tell it is 2C-I is that 2C-I tastes sweet. It does have a nasty "chemical" taste, but it also feels as if sugar has been added. I have heard many people from across the globe attest to that, too.

Did "nasty" in your description include a hard-to-miss sweetness?
 
No, it just tasted reallllllly nasty. But that might just be me. I'm really sensitive to bitter tastes, so that could be the problem. And as for the high dose, it was nowhere near anything that would be considered deadly, even for 2C-I. If 20-30 mg is a strong recreational dose, i don't think adding 7.5 mg is gonna kill anyone. And I certainly didn't feel anything "wrong" while i was on it. It was quite a strong trip, but i've tripped as hard on mushrooms too. Besides, i think some of you are forgetting: we knew it was either 2CB or 2CI for certain. Both have been going around our area lately, and the guy who gave it to us had taken it as had other people we knew, we just didn't know which one of the two it was because they have a lot of similarities on paper. We certainly would never have taken a dose that would have been completely out of line for a first experience. 37.5 is well within a normal range for 2C-B (20-50mg), and only slightly high for 2C-I. I would even suggest that amount for an experienced psychonaut. Anyhoo, i don't need to start any arguments with anyone, and i'm damn tired of flamers, so I'll just leave it at that. I wrote my trip report so other people could learn a little bit more about 2C-I and perhaps decided whether or not they should take it, and if so, how much they should take. I don't really care what anyone else has to say about my past actions at this point anyhow, hee hee! :)
 
-=ReD-hAzE=- said:
You did not have 37.5 grams of 2C-I. That amount would of cost you a fortune, and probably killed you.


dude , i did 30 and was far from dead . I dont know your source but it was not very costly .
I will maybe try 40 someday of 2c-i .

I think 30mg is a good dose to have a lot of visual effect , at 10 i almost nothings , a little buzz like pot and a little amphetamie speedy effect . Ill try at 20 too someday .
 
kittyinthedark : your trip was similar to mine at 30 mg . But it took me 1 hour to kick in . And than maybe 2 or 3 hours to see color . I saw a lot of color around everythings for maybe 2 hour .


After 3 hours , i was VERY VERY hight but it was so danm fun .
Next time , ill do it in rave . !!!!!!!!!!! %)


btw , i was able to sleep like 20 hours after i took it .
 
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The only bad effect i notice at 30mg is the "lost of time"
I was in a car and i was not able at all to remember wich day we was and wich hour we was .

Anyway , i just asked someone ... lol
 
DMX said:
dude , i did 30 and was far from dead . I dont know your source but it was not very costly .

Please read more carefully. That was not what he said.. And 10 mg of 2C-I may not do anything for you, I already found 12 mg a little bit too much for comfort.
 
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