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2C-I -- First Time -- Better than Mescaline!

bluedolphin

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Preparation and Introduction

It all begins with a two hour drive to pick up six doses of 2C-I from a friend I met online. Each dose should have been about 21mg, although our methods of measurement are not those that I would recommend be used by someone concerned with precision. Without going into details, I will say that it was measured with somewhat more accuracy than the typical "eyeballed" dose. So I will say that each participant got between 18 to 24 mg.

There would be three participants: myself, my girlfriend Psilosara, and a longtime friend who we'll call "Trees".

I am experienced with Shrooms, Mescaline, MDMA (and mdma/meth), DXM, LSA. Psilosara is similarly experienced. Trees, however, had only taken DXM prior to this experiment. I was looking forward to giving him his first taste of true psychedelia.

Our setting is the same location that Psilosara and I had our Mescaline a couple weeks ago: an empty country house surrounded by lush meadows, forest, and rolling hills. It was a beautiful day.

The Experience

We ate our gelcapped doses at about 4:30pm. Trees goes to take a shower while Psilosara and I watch some TV. When trees returns from his shower I notice that his hand is shaking. He asks if I gave him speed, and I explain that some stimulation is a normal effect. Since Trees tends to tweak similarly if given enough caffeine, I wasn't too concerned.

By 5:30 we are all feeling something. To me it feels like I am coming up on mdma mixed with a little speed. Similarly to when I took mescaline, I couldn't really seem to chill in one position very long, and I had the same kind of "pent-up energy". I don't really enjoy this effect, and it was the main reason that I haven't rushed out to get more San Pedro yet.

Trees reports seeing rainbows in the field, and halos around objects. Since this is his first time seeing such things, he is really excited, and it puts me in a good mood to see him having a good time. Psilosara seems a bit speeded-up and it is hard to tell if she is really enjoying the come-up.

At 5:45 I decide to lay down on the couch to try to relax. Amazingly, I am able to relax. Unlike with mescaline, I seem to be able to focus my excess energy into something that feels much like mdma. After a few minutes on the couch, the visuals hit me very suddenly. The entire room, as well as all the objects in the room, begins to breathe and shift shapes. Furniture seems to slide around the floor. I look up at the ceiling and see the same anemone-looking (as in the sea-creature) patterns that I occasionally saw with mescaline forming from the light. I am impressed, and I wonder just how intense the trip will get if I am already having such visuals without even having to concentrate on anything. I lay there watching the room and listening to Trees' commentary on his visuals, which seem to be a good deal more intense than mine. I would consider myself to be a low +++ at this point.

6:15 comes along and our friend "J" shows up. He is fairly wasted and he drove his gas-powered scooter over to the house. We all go to chill out on the porch. I look up at the porch ceiling and see the exact same faces and swiriling in the wood that I saw with mescaline, except they were more pronounced with 2C-I. I closed my eyes to see what kind of CEV's I might have, since the last time I checked there wasn't much. To my amazement it seemed like I could see through my eyelids almost as if my eyes were open. Except instead of seeing the scenery as I normally would with my eyes open, a layer of colorful patterns with ancient-looking faces and animal shapes formed. Eventually this transformed into a seemingly endless tunnel which would swirl around, with the patterns constantly transforming. This was very cool.

Time dilation was present throughout the whole trip. The plateau seemed to last a long time, and I was always surprised to find out just how "early" it was.

Trees was still tweaking, but seemed to be having a great time regardless. He wanted to ride J's scooter around, so we went outside. I sat on the front steps and noticed that watching all the bugs and flies in the air was a complicated experience due to the tracers following them. Watching a couple butterflies, I was convinced that there were actually several more butterflies than there actually were. But the coolest thing was when this cool bee that could hover in one place flew up next to me. It would hover in front of my face and then dart a foot or two in one direction, which left a crazy tracer. But it would always stick around me so I could keep watching it.

But then I realized that Psilosara had dissapeared so I went to find her. She was in her bedroom laying in a bunch of pillows. She said she was tripping, but not really having a great time because of the stimulation. I agreed that the stimulation wasn't exactly the high point of the trip, but I found it to be less uncomfortable than mescaline.

I guess she wanted something to distract her, so we put on the Simpsons episode "Mr. Sparkle". It was halarious. Trees came down halfway through sweating like a pig after riding the scooter around. I recommended he drink some water and lay down to watch the episode for a while, which seemed to chill him out. Psilosara and Trees reported some jaw clenching so I gave them both some Magnesium tablets. Placebo or not, it seemed to help.

At this point J wanted to smoke a bowl. Trees and Psilosara went to join him, but I remembered how when I smoked a bowl during my mescaline experience it really didn't help. So I lay down on the carpet and watching the sunbeams coming in through the window form translucent airborne mandelas and patterns while the room continued to breath and shift.

Laying there on the floor was the high point of my trip. It was 7:00pm at this point and I closed my eyes. I felt like I had taken some excellent mdma, and the speed feeling was diminishing. Only this was much better than mdma, because I was was watching a realistic, full sized (yet glowing) vision of my girlfriend mounting me in the "girl-on-top" position. Then that vision dissapeared and several glowing neon arms wrapped themselves around me and gave me the greatest physical comfort imaginable.

Then Psilosara came in to check on me. Apparently I looked kind of dazed when I opened my eyes because she assumed I wasn't doing very well. I assured her I was, in fact, doing incredibly well. She said that she felt much better and happier after having smoked some reefer, and I was glad. She went back outside and I resumed laying on the floor, for it was truly a slice of heaven.

This time I opened my eyes and pressed my face against the carpet. The fibers of the carpet formed into animal patterns, mostly cat-like creatures and gargoyle-looking things that would stare at me. They seemed friendly. Then the fibers of the carpet transformed into mountains. Literally vast mountain ranges made of carpet that looked like they were miles deep. On the mountains were constantly changing patterns much like those I had seen throughout the trip. This was definitely a full-blown +++.

Then I tuned into the conversation of my friends outside the room. I walked outside and J was commenting how "his friend told him that all this 2C-whatever stuff is all bad for you". I wasn't in the mood for having that conversation right now, but it didn't help my case for the fact that Trees was still sweating and tweaking (but of course still having a great time). All I can say is that if I was Trees I would not have been having a great time with such a body load, but I'm glad he was able to truly enjoy it regardless.

We then called up some friends, and I found that talking on the phone was lots of fun, almost like the person I was talking to was right there with me. Apparently some more people would be coming over later, which was cool with me.

8:00pm rolls around and I am coming down off the peak, so I smoke a couple hits of pot. It is nice, and doesn't freak me out like it did when I smoked pot with mescaline.

After such an incredible peak/plateau, the comedown felt relatively uneventful, so I'll not spend as much time on it. Fortunately Trees had stopped sweating, and he seemed to be tweaking less, although he still couldn't keep his legs still. Psilosara, after having smoked pot twice, was in a great frame of mind and said she felt like she was rolling with some remaining visuals. I was really glad that the second half of her trip turned out well for her.

9:00pm arrives and we're all hungry as hell. I drink a beer, which had no effect on me other than refreshment. We order a pizza from Dominos. Dominos shows up 35 minutes later with the pizza, and I meet the guy at the door.

With a giant grin on my face:
"Oh hell yeah, pizza! Um, here's a wad of cash for ya."

Then I grab the pizza and head inside. I should also mention that we got chicken kickers. The first bite of that chicken kicker was the best thing I ever tasted. I questioned why we hadn't got food earlier.

About an hour later the other friends head over and we chill for a little while. At this point I feel like I am coming down off a nice clean roll, and my visuals have pretty much dissapeared. They ask us about our trips and after telling them about it, they all wanted some. We played some Mario Kart (for Super Nintendo) for a while before we decided to go play some frisbee on top of a parking garage downtown.

So Trees decides to drive home, since he has to wake up super-early for work, and he seems good to drive by now. He's no longer tweaking and he says he's not tripping anymore. On the way out the door he thanks me for a great time, which I thought was awesome.

Anyway, so we head out to the garage, play frisbee for a while, get kicked out of the garage by security, and head to our friend L's house. We chill there for a while, smoke a couple joints and a couple bowls and then Psilosara and I head home.

I click on the telly and Animal Planet is showing "Creatures from 200 million years in the Future" or something like that. It kicked ass, but it was also 2:00am so I wanted to get some sleep.

6mg of Melatonin and I was fast asleep 30 minutes later after reflecting on the trip with Psilosara for a little while.

Commentary

Although this was one of my all-time best trips, there was some negative aspects. The stimulation isn't bad, but it is a drawback in my opinion. I think that is why it is important to know doses exactly because the stimulation increases as the dose increases. Trees apparently got a few mg's more than myself or Psilosara. However I do suspect that Trees is simply more inclined to tweak than I am.

Overall a very nice trip. Visually astounding, while preserving most of your mental clarity. Rolling around on the floor during my peak was surely one of the best drug experiences I've had.

My only complaint on this, the day after, was a very minor headache (which went away fairly quickly) and the fact that my jaw is a little stiff from grinning so damn much.

peace!
 
IV:XX - Werd up to the romans

Beautiful report bluedolphin, I really enjoyed reading about your experience :) Sounds like you had alot of fun...
 
YEA

YEA, Im so happy your two hour drive was worth it. Great report except for the part about dominos. I hate dominos b/c i work there but it makes me happy that the juicy buffalo kickers bring such joy into your life. I probably didnt take as much as you all did last time but the colors were insane and Finding Nemo was awesome. Lets get some more and go camping later in august. Well try the MDA (Sunshines 8o)+ 2c-i combo that i can't wait to try. Thank goodness we found [NO SOURCES] b/c its soooooo cheap!
CIao
 
^^^^ I feel left out


Nice report though man. You really think it feels that much like mdma?
 
Excellent job, and Im glad that you were pleased, as you seemed to have higher hopes reading my report.

The headache you spoke of is most likely linked to the raise in blood pressure 2C-I causes. This has given me headaches during, immediately after, and the next day. The headaches never get too severe though.

Glad you enjoyed one of my favorite psychedelics out there :)
 
Thanks guys!

SmokinDank --> It feels like a cross between mescaline and mdma. The reason I say that is because it has the "pent-up energy" stimulation of mescaline, but I found that with 2C-I I was much more easily able to focus this energy into an intense rolling/rushing feeling. The reason I am using mescaline for a comparison is because its the only other visual PEA I've tried, and they seemed quite similar in many ways.

Matt --> I suspect the headache could be from serotonin depletion as well. Although I am certainly not depressed in the days after like mdma can make me.

DrPhunk --> Hell yeah we'll go camping before the summer's out =)

Nick --> 'shanks pal =D

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Well I'm leaving for 3 days up in Maine with Phish!! Who knows what kind of insanity will take place.

WOOO!
 
I should note that I weighed the remaining doses that were not consumed during this session... they were all exactly 21mg ... so it is fairly safe to say that I am *the shit* when it comes to eyeballing and that our doses were probably all 21mg as well =)
 
Not really. I eyeballed very equally looking doses but some measurements where off by 5 mg. Looks can definetly be deceiving. Especially with a powder like 2C-I that is fluffy in appearance.
 
Please do not eyeball doses of psychedelic drugs trust me this one can react different in different people and i've seen enough freakouts and been through enough of them from this vary substance to say that it can be very intense in certain people and can cause a variety of reactions as the 2C's are known to be unpredictable. Also what are people thinking eyeballing out doses as although your experienced you can still fuck up on doses and get your self in a whole lot of trouble trust me psychedelics are not toys or fun drugs that you do to escape reality they make a whole new reality for you that can be very intense if you take too high a dose.

One time I fucked up by putting 100mg of 5MeO-DiPT(I think it may have been more because i added extra afterwards as this was for someone else that told me he does 20 hits of acid every time he does it.) in a capsule put a red dot on it to mark it and put it in my pocket with another 15mg one and went on my way well I had some people come over i gave them some doses and i took the one out of my pocket and swallowed it without even looking, well lets just say that was a big mistake. I did'nt even relieze it until about 15min later when i started feeling the effects and i said to myself no way is it kicking in this quick but it did so i took the other one out of my pocket SHIT! NO FUCKING RED DOT! I got up and walked into the bathroom and sat down on the toilet spinning around in multi color and thought what the fuck am i gonna do fuck i was'nt ready for this at all and i could taste the fear and panic now OH FUCK! What the fuck was i gonna do well i basicaly kicked everyone out and told them I am gonna sleep it off OK, well basicaly i had one of the most horrific times that i've ever had pure panic and i was sure of coming death i even made a trip to the mourge actualy it was a hospital as someone came back saw me catatonic and brought me the the ER. I still have post tramatic stess from it and i feel i will never be the same again so be very careful as although i've taken high doses of psychedelics before that maybe even approached this level but i was prepared so there is a big difference as i did'nt feel i could handle such an intense trip at this time so if you screw up you'll be realy fucked expected a decent dose and you get a unbelievable experience that has no words to describe it at the wrong place and the wrong time you could end up in trouble as when i was at the hospital a dose was still in my pocket so i could have been in alot of hurt.
 
^^^
You've seen 2C-I freakouts? At what doses? Just curious, because I have access to lots of 2C-I.

I've only eyeballed substances in the past where I haven't really cared what the exact dose was. Like DXM... anything between 350 and 500 was cool with me, and it was easy to eyeball that dose. I did that lots of times and never got a dose that felt over 500mg, or one that felt less than 350mg. I have no problem eyeballing mdma, because I have a clear image of what 1gram or 100mg of mdma looks like (as long as its fluffy). Besides even if I accidentally eyeball an extra 50% the worst that can happen is that I get an awesome roll.

The 2C-I, I agree, was a bad idea to eyeball. I didn't have access to a MG scale at the time, and one of those "perfect opportunities" to trip was fast approaching. I probably spent 30 minutes dividing those doses up into long, thin, flat lines. I was surprised when all those doses turned out to be 21mg, but I wasn't surprised that I had done a darn good eyeballin' job =).

The last time I eyeballed was trying to split 60mg of AMT in half, minus about 10mg total. Normally I would never eyeball AMT, except that the doses we had access to were below what most people take anyway, so it seemed like the chance of getting in over our heads with a dose error was... well, impossible.

Of course eyeballing is a BAD idea. But think about it, every time we smoke some herb we eyeball our doses. Every time we eat "ecstacy" pills we are eyeballing our doses. Of course I would NEVER try to eyeball something like 5-meo-DMT, DMT, 5-meo-AMT, 2C-T-7, etc (chemicals that I would actually not want to take any more than I intended to).

A milligram scale is excellent practice. I can't afford one at the moment, but it is high on my shopping list for sure.

peace
 
I've seen 2C-I freakouts. My friend is very sensitive to psychedelics and I had to talk to him several times to get him to relax during a time he took only 12 mg of 2C-I. Using a scale with any pure psychedelic compound is a must!
 
Eduard said:
Investigated dosages from 5 mg up to 50 and could say I just love it!

Jeez Louise! 8o I think my eyes, brain, and heart would explode if I took 50 mg of 2C-I. 16 mg is plenty for me. Much too stimulating at higher dosages. When you took 50 mg of 2C-I, did you have any physical problems to speak of? How did you deal with the stimulation?
 
Yes i've seen people freakout on as low as 15mg of 2C-I in fact I had to calm a person down who was on just 14mg because he thought he was gonna die and he said he was having a psychedelic soup experience and this person was very experienced with tryptamine psychedelics and so now he reliezes that he is sensitive to phenethylamines. Most of the freakouts i've seen however were around the dosage range of 25-40mg but theres not much difference in appearance between 20mg and 30mg so you could have quite a negetive experience by not wieghing your 2C-I first.
 
I eyeballed my dosage of DMT.

Not 5-MEO, but the real deal.

Mainly because I didn't want to work my way up with DMT. I felt as though it would be my last time on DMT, and I wanted to take it all with me, and I don't regard a terrifying experience with DMT to be at all a bad thing, quite the opposite.

But then, this is 2c-i we're talking about :)
 
I once ingested 45mg of 2C-I and found the stimulation to be not that much more intense than at 25mg and the visuals were out of this world but the overall experience was dissapointing due to the dissociation i got from it which made me feel as though i was dead and decaying with multi color boxed in patterns dominating my visual field to the point of almost psychedelic soup.
 
DMT is the worst thing to fuck around with as i once smoked 80mg and i've never been quite the same again although people have told me that i have changed greatly since that time almost back to my normal self but becareful because sometimes when i'm tripping i'll get some of the feelings i had on DMT and will freakout even on dosages that i have far exceeded in the past so becareful cause it can taint your further experiences by having such a horribly intense experience in which you cease to exist for millions of years and just that can do some real damage to your mind and ego believe me.
 
^^ Try giving psychedelics a break for a while.. Don't wait for your brain to give you any more messages.
 
morninggloryseed said:
Jeez Louise! 8o I think my eyes, brain, and heart would explode if I took 50 mg of 2C-I. 16 mg is plenty for me. Much too stimulating at higher dosages. When you took 50 mg of 2C-I, did you have any physical problems to speak of? How did you deal with the stimulation?

That's what I was thinking! My 21mg dose had enough uncomfortable stimulating properties with just about all the visuals I could ask for. I think my next dose will be more like 15mg, and I'll work my way up to my target dose.

I'm pretty sure 50mg would convince me that I would die at any moment due to overheating and an exploding heart.
 
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