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2C-I - 2nd time - a confusing experience

Sunset Trip

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2CI - 2nd time - a confusing experience

OK - here's an account of my second experience of 2CI - an altogether challenging, and slightly disturbing experience. I've taken 2CI once before, a very positive experience but this time was different. I'm also a regular MDMA user and occasional LSD user - I've never had any problems with either of these drugs. Also, apologies for the scattered thoughts here - the trip was very confusing...

Setting: At home, alone. I'd originally planned to take one 16mg 'i' pill at 8pm but having arrived home late from work, I didn't end up taking the pill until 11pm. It should be noted that I was quite tired by this point after a busy week at work.

11pm - chew the 2CI pill and wash down with a glass of water. Put on a DVD to pass the time.

11.30 - the first tingling of the 2CI - kind of like an MDMA buzz.

11.30-12.30 - a steady increase in the effects of the 2CI - at the moment, there is nothing in the way of visuals, but I'm unable to stay still. I'm twitchy and feel the need to move around. I decide at this point that I won't leave the flat tonight as a)I'm alone and b)it's dark, cold and raining outside so going for a walk (especially as I live in a rough neighbourhood) isn't a good idea. It should be noted that I'm very much enjoying the trip at the moment, with a general feeling of wellbeing.

12.30-1.45 - this is where the 2CI really starts to show itself - I start to see trails, 'mosaic' effects and a variety of interesting visuals. This is where the trip stayed last time - nice visuals, slight euphoric feel, general chatiness and a lot of energy. To chill out, I roll a spliff and put another DVD on.

1.45-3am - suddenly a real sense of confusion kicks in. I'm unable to concentrate and can't keep still. It's difficult to recall many details from this point but I keep walking from room to room in my flat but then forget what I set out to do. I try and make a coffee but then forget why I've gone to the kitchen. I then start to feel paranoid that my neighbours will wonder why I'm walking around so much. I feel like I've got so much energy but I can't focus it. Time is also going very slowly - 10 minutes feels like an hour.

3am - I go to lie down in my room and put on some chilled music. It feels like my thoughts are 'miss-firing' - so many thoughts in such a short space of time that I can't get a handle on them. I go to the living room, hoping that a change of scenery may help, but this is just another room which over stimulates me.

3-4am - I decide that the best thing to do is to sit out the trip - this is extremely difficult as I can't settle anywhere. I try and listen to a CD but I can only listen to 30 seconds of a song before I feel the need to change the CD - within 20 minutes, there are CDs strewn across the floor. The initial euphoria has evolved into a mild panic and I just hope that the energy will subside. I smoke another joint, thinking this will relax my body but all it seems to do is add to the mental confusion - the weed seems to increase the mental strain rather than soften it.

4am - go and lie down in my room - I drift off at some point (at one point I wondered if I was falling into unconsciousness rather than sleep). I'm not sure what time I fell asleep but I wake up at 10am, feeling absolutely fine.


Conclusion - overall this was a very confusing experience. My aim was to use the drug purely recreationally - I wanted to chill out, trip a little and watch some films. I had no desire for the drug to give me any answers. The dose was mild (16mg) and one that I'd previously experienced in a positive way. I feel that one of the main problems was that I was tired and the mental stimulation of the 2CI combined with my own mental and physical tiredness led to the confusion.

I also found that the 2CI asked a lot of questions, but provided no answers. It left me firing thoughts but didn't allow me any time to get my head around them...

In hindsight, it just feels like I took the wrong drug at the wrong time - next morning I had a kind of 'that was a pretty mad experience' feeling but I didn't feel like I'd been in any danger. I'll use the experience to ensure I use the drug in the right setting next time - in the daytime, with other people and with the option of going for a walk to get rid of some of the high physical and mental stimulation.

Hope this makes sense.... x
 
makes perfect sense.. for me a spliff on psychedelics usually means "I want to go higher/wasted" as cannabis tends to potentiate many psychedelics quite a bit, so perhaps the chilling spliff was more like confusion spliff (?).
 
totally agree, it was probably down to the joints. Everytime i have abit of a bad one on physcdelics is after i smoke weed. I find it never relaxs me just makes my brain work overtime (too much overtime).
 
Re: 2CI - 2nd time - a confusing experience

Sunset Trip said:
11pm - chew the 2CI pill and wash down with a glass of water.

Yuck, that must have tasted horrible!

What DVD's were you watching, they could have helped define the beginnings of the trip...
 
thanks for the advice - you're probably right - weed hits me pretty hard when I'm sober so that's probably it. Anyone got any advice on how to chill put on 2CI? Or goes that defeat the point of the drug?
 
I find higher doses of 2c-i, like above 20mg can cause confusion and pretty intense indecisiveness. This is without any other drug.
 
I doubt you can chill too much with 2c-i, since it seems to produce a lot of energy to most people. Try going through the thread "sedative psychedelics" that was floating here a while ago. For me, 2c-i is only for partying or some other physical excercise add-on (like hiking).
 
I find low doses pointless but higher ones simply confusing & uncomfortable. the only good (just about) experiences were with adding weed - although one time it just induced panic by amplifying 2ci's nasty stimulant effect. Another friend found it simularly confusing nasty after an initial couple of quite good trips.
 
Re: 2CI - 2nd time - a confusing experience

Sunset Trip said:
My aim was to use the drug purely recreationally - I wanted to chill out, trip a little and watch some films. I had no desire for the drug to give me any answers. The dose was mild (16mg) and one that I'd previously experienced in a positive way.

Psychedelic drugs are unpredictable. Although they can be fun, they are not reliable recreational drugs because they tend to have a "mind" of their own.

And everyone varies, but 16 mg for me is not a mild dose. With 16 mg I can reach a full, but gentle, +3. And I have a friend that only needs 12 mg or so of 2C-I to get to a full +3.
 
yeah i got that same sort of confusion and heavy from 2C-I this past weekend. the thing that got me was how sexual and erotic 2C-I made me feel. I had this intense sexual urge, and towards the end of the night i kept having these thoughts of massive orgys and people fucking everywhere, which was quite strange for me. overall i still liked the trip. ill have to try some during the day, as it would seem better suited.
 
My first experience on 2C-I was too intense on my body until I smoked some weed. That actually calmed me and soothed the trip and the energy. The next time I took it the weed potentiated the trip and flung me forward into a very wonderful and intense experience, and the third time the weed made me paranoid and anxious, and the trip was not fully enjoyable afterwards.
So I concluded that the drug has some randomness to its manifestation as a trip, and that your mood and setting is also really important. Making sure that I have the mental and physical energy and willingness to handle whatever trip I'm gonna get is the ideal prep, because everything else seems determined by the unpredictable substance.
Do you think you would have enjoyed or been able to get a hold on all that mental confusion if you weren't so energetic and restless? With 2C-I the speediness is what ruins the trip for me, but the nature of the rest of the experience could be more fun or allow some more introspection if the rest of me didn't feel like I was on psychedelic speed.
 
psilosara said:

So I concluded that the drug has some randomness to its manifestation as a trip, and that your mood and setting is also really important.

Uh, this is pretty much the general rule for all psychedelics. This property is not unique to 2C-I.
 
well yes, but because my 2C-I trips have been so different, with only the common visuals, my need for expecting that randomness, and then the preparation for whatever may ensue, increases. On say, LSA, I could predict at least the, well, personality of the trip better.
 
morninggloryseed said:
Uh, this is pretty much the general rule for all psychedelics. This property is not unique to 2C-I.

I think most of us can agree that each individual psychedelic is unpredictable within a certain set of parameters, and that some psychedelics are overall more or less predictable than others. I believe psilosara understands the unpredictable nature of the psychedelic experience itself.

Sometimes a weird trip can be explained by set / setting but other times these drugs have a mind of their own ;)
 
I've found for me mushrooms can go either way for me in perfect set and setting. While acid (not amazing doses or anything) I can kind of trip most places and enjoy it.. except pisshead parties.
 
I had a similar experience during my first 2c-i trip. In fact, it was eerily similar to yours, Sunset: Same set/setting (late night at work, tired and strung out, alone), same effects. My dose was higher, though (22mg). The combination of the excess energy from the 2c-i, the visuals (which became almost overpowering), and smoking pot really put me in a confusing and uncomfortable place. For me, much of it may have been the weed, as i am a jittery bug in the first place and large amounts of pot make me itchy twitchy paranoid. Perhaps certain people simply aren't meant to do psychedelics on their own. My next trip is currently being planned carefully, with two close friends, a lower dose, and no weed until we all feel we have a handle on our brains (if that's a real possibility ). Hope this is helpful. Good luck in the future.
 
Oh, and the mindset aspect can't be overstated, i think. You have to have a good foundation, as the cliche goes. There is nothing worse than having too much nervous energy at 4am, when your brain wants to sleep and all you can do is pace the flat and watch crazy colours.
 
BrokenNosedmogul; Agreed!
This is why is so damn important not to do things like this when you really shouldn't; not enough time, too tired, will have to do something important the next day etc.
 
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