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2C-I 16mg - experienced - Virtual Enlightenment.

theghostofbillhicks

theghostofbillhicks

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2c-i.16mg. Virtual Enlightenment.

Sunday evenings are a funny time. Monday's on your back. Weekends all but over. So i decided more or less spontaneously to dose myself with my current obsession. 2c-i.

Previous trips haven't rivalled my 'so-high-i-went-blind' LSD trips or my meeting of 'the other' in a bemushroomed state. They have been full of eye candy and sensation but no food for thought seemed to be there. Until tonight.


+1 hr.

I'm a very spiritually centered person in that i meditate daily if i can, i read almost constantly about various forms of communicating with the divine (kabbalah, vipassana,shamanism) but this trip was only intended as a psychedelic sunday sojourn. So me and my flatmate got out a video and relaxed.


+2hrs.
The film was some Tom Green crap and it reeled off in the background as my mind began to go back, and back and back. Reality seemed both incredibly clear and very much distant. From this witness- mind i began having incredible insight into what it feels like to be super conscious. My ego began to gently dissolve without paranoia as 2c-i allowed me to tune to the truth of our predicament as human beings. Our optimum state, it occured to me, is one of absolute love guided by truth. This state can be attained via meditation or momentarily reflected through certain chemicals.

+3hrs.
It seemed important not to take my ego along for this ride, and only my knowledge of buddhism/vedas/kabbalah reccomended this action to me. I could imagine a big ego trip happening at this point but i kept in tune with what my intuitive heart knew to be truth, remaining highly aware. The Tom Green Film was over and i was tripping my arse off. I returned to my bedroom and began meditating.


+4.1/2hrs.
Sitting in the full lotus i focused on my breath flowing in and out my nostrils. The one pointedness of thought allowed me to travel far out on a plane of informative consciousness, filling me with understandings barely effable in common language. Beauty filled me and i realised one must not destroy ones ego because thats our vehicle for communication, our space suit, as Ram Dass says. But we must not become lost in our egos either, something im often guilty of. I found 2c-i 's teaching method gentle, elegant and easy to understand.

+5-6 hrs.
it was already late. MY body was tired and my consciusness still and actuely aware. I read some fascinating info on bluelight about thought and awareness and how the enlightened state can be experienced for a time with the aid of certain chems/plants. I read how the feeling of ego dissolution gives way to a unity with it all, giving rise to ecstasy and beauty.

I managed to let my body and mind sleep and woke tired but alive the next day. My consciousness had been boosted. Truth seemed brighter and my spiritual path more illuminated.

thank you 2c-i

Peace

X
 
Very nice. I too have found the spiritual and introspective aspects of 2C-I a bit hard to access, but very worthwhile if you can get there. Personally, I find the stimulative aspects of it the most challenging to overcome when trying to find the "spirit" of this material. It's a bit like an unruly toddler who must be continuously refocused on the task at hand.

Like you apparently, I have found that something in the setting of "Sunday evening" really brings out the best in this material -- a nice farewell to a weekend and hello to a new week.

VB
 
strange because i the dose was low-ish. No real visuals. But the spirit decided it was time to let me know certain things. Can't say i'm disappointed! :D
 
16mg is low-ish, I guess, but many people seem to report this as the sweet spot for 2C-I. I am OK up around 25mg, but the experience gets a little jumpy. Sixteen is just enough to feel "up" and interested in things but not bouncing off walls. 25mg might be OK for a dance party or for a rigorous day of hiking, I suppose, but if you don't know what to do with all the energy it can feel wasted.
 
Nice trip report, thanks!

I am probably going to take 20 mg for my second dose of 2C-I. Anyone have any feedback on how this will be different than a 16 mg dose?
 
^^^
Yes :)

I have taken 2C-I at the following doses:

2mg, 4mg, 8mg, 10mg, 14mg, 16mg, 18mg, and 21mg

The difference between a 16mg and a 21mg trip, for me, is this:
--> A more intense and rapid come-up.
--> Very realistic and colorful OEV's and CEV's... and looong tracers.
--> Tachycardia at 21mg
--> Too much stimulation: verging on uncomfortable

I admire VictorBorge's ability to handle 25mg at a dance concert... but keep in mind that for many people this dose verges on dissociative. I have seen a friend go into a catatonic, unrepsonsive state a smaller dose than this. He was very disoriented by the psychedelic soup, and required constant watch and checking his pulse, etc.

Many will say that with 2C-I, less is more. Too much of this material can turn your trip into a waiting game... waiting for the discomfort to end. If you can't get a worthy trip out of 18mg or 20mg, I wouldn't suggest going higher. Perhaps the chemical is just not suited to you. Also keep in mind that 14mg trips can be more intense than 18mg trips on this one. Don't immediately assume you need to add much to your last dose if it wasn't intense enough.

For better euphoria, more intricate visuals, more "connectedness", and to realize the full potential of phenethylamines, try some mescaline extracted from San Pedro. 2C-I leaves me feeling like each trip is the same shallow (and sometimes physically uncomfortable) experience. Mescaline leaves me intrigued and fully impressed, even though I've yet to have what would probably be considered an intense mescaline trip.

peace
 
Thanks for the response bluedolphin. I think I am going to weigh my caps out to 18 mg instead of 20 mg after reading that. I was hoping for a bit more intensity overall, but maybe I won't even achieve that out of a +2/+3 more mg dose. We will see
 
bluedolphin said:

The difference between a 16mg and a 21mg trip, for me, is this:
--> A more intense and rapid come-up.
--> Very realistic and colorful OEV's and CEV's... and looong tracers.
--> Tachycardia at 21mg
--> Too much stimulation: verging on uncomfortable
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^^I was about to say exactly the same, except for the heart racing.

bluedolphin said:
I admire VictorBorge's ability to handle 25mg at a dance concert...
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Oops, I actually did that dose on two occasions at *home*, and found it, well, as you describe above, too stimulating. But I could imagine it being right -- *for me* -- in a more physically demanding setting. Apparently, though, I am not only hard-headed on psychedelics, but just generally resistant to the harsher effects of this chemical. I could probably do 25mg of 2C-I again and enjoy it, but the sweet spot is definitely lower. I started at 12mg and that was nifty too.
 
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