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2C-B Vs. 2C-I

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Okay, to follow up the 2C-B thread:
How is 2C-I compared to 2C-B? Has anyone taken both? What are the differences? Do they "feel" about the same? Which do you like more?
I ask cause I've taken 2C-I a few times and enjoyed it but wasn't amazed by it or anything. Never tried or even seen 2C-b tho...

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well when ate dosage parameters(for everyone I've read of) go from 5-30mg, me going to 25mg at the most, noticing not too much an increase in psychedelia from 18-20mg(oddly enough).
Insuff up to 10mg, and feeling like more may not have been much good-- reminds me of 5-Meo_DiPT, where it's just not one of those things that you're meant to "get off" on, very unlike the 2CT's.
We need more responses because of the great disparity of reported effects:
Some(like me) report very mild and uninteresting visuals while other report them excellent and engrossing("I-lab Rat" report on erowid come to mind).
The euphoric element there is great disparity too- very little in the way of mood elevation for me, almost nuetral, although physically stimulating.
Others report pronounced euphoria and great body buzz, attributed(I've read) to a supposed serotonin release...
 
I have heard that 2c-I has somewhat more psychedelic effects when compared with 2c-b and a bit less of the tactile enhancement, though it is present. I have never actually been able to get ahold of 2c-b, but may try 2c-I in the near future. I'd like to get ahold of some 2c-h and try a little bomination, but who knows if that'll ever happen.
 
yea it's an odd one, I have 2 comrades who tried it at 20mg(or so), alone/by themselves, and at different times, and said it was wonderful and quite visual similar to good old mesc in that regard.
Another friend took 20mg and said he had an amazing spiritual and sensuous awakening and great insights about his life. However he said there was virtually no visual activity aside from increased acuity.
None of the above have tried 2CB tho.
 
forgot to mention another comrade of mine who's taken it a few times at up to 30mg, not quite sure what he makes of it tho- maybe he'll post n help me out ;)
 
I've never tried 2C-B, but i just tried out 2C-I this weekend at "hash bash" in Ann Arbor, MI.
This was my first time, so i took about 14mg. There is no nausea, "shakes", or any bad side effects with this on the come up, unlike most other psychedelic research chem's i've tried (2ct2, 5-meo-dipt), felt very "clean" on the body. My mind felt very clear headed, no "mind fuck". The visuals were lacking (except trails were good), although when i focus on something, patterns and waves, etc. would form. Although there was some color enhancement throughout the trip. There was an interesting body buzz, felt good, and i had a perma-grin during a lot of the trip. I will have to try a higher dose next time, like 18-20mg or so.
What was best was there was no side effects, like 2ct2 and 5-meo-dipt gave me. Wasn't visual enough at 14mg though. Although smoking some weed really enhanced the visuals (like it does with all psychedelics, for me).
 
Hey, I was at the Hash Bash!! Ann Arbor is my city! you should come out and use my digital milligram scale :P
Drop me a PM if you live in or around there...
I was actually kinda disappointed with the Hash Bash this year. They didnt block off any streets or allow vernding like they always have, and most of the headshops were IDing just to GET IN THE DOOR. It was pretty bootsy.
 
i haven't done 2cb however 2ci is alotta fun in my opinion. i've done dosages of 9, 10, 20mg multiple times. at 9 and 10mg it was very pleasent, my mind was very clear headed and i was on point more so sober. at 20mg it was extremely pyschedelic and full on visauls. also at the lower doses i get pretty good waving and patterning visuals. two thumbs up.
 
Dr. Greenthumb: Wasn't Monroe Ave. blocked off or whatever? In front of that bar/resturant where there were other speakers and those 2 women with MS (the one got right up on stage and someone passed her a joint, no ann arbor cops around to hassle, i'm sure they didnt want to bother a couple women with MS, not that it matters that much since its only a $25 ticket in Ann Arbor)''
Yes, ah, i dont have a scale accurate to below 0.1g.. :) I used the water/vodka method to measure out the 2C-I.
 
Alright, since noone's tried both it seems, has anyone tried 2C-B? If so, can you describe the experience somewhat, so maybe we can make our own conclusions from the above 2ci posts? (more 2ci posts welcome too of course :) )
 
Okay, i'm not too sure exactly how to describe 2C-B. You seem to notice alot more stuff happening when on it, a lot more little things. And you laugh your arse off. As you are noticing more, it all seems hilarious. Feeling and touch is fucked around with, I often felt as though my hands were sitting in pools of water, and sweat running down them, but when i checked, nothing, dry. uhm.. I'll get a few friends to help me with this, and i'll post another reply. oh, And dosage in this is a big factor. first time i ever had one of these babies [in capsule form] i was told there was approx 29-30mg contained within. Second time, was told there was about 35mg within. God did it make a difference. Perhaps it was just a mindset, but damn, that 35mg cap was significantly better than the 30mg cap.
 
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2c-b is not as in your face as acid in my limited experience. Its just like much more colourful adn noticing loads of patterns and stuff. Sensations where also heightened i noticed.
 
A. Wizard: I had 250mg of 2C-I i dissolved into 125mL of vodka, so that 1mL of the solution will contain 2mg of 2C-I. Or to make a 1mL=1mg, you would use 250mL of water/vodka/whatever solution with 250mg of whatever substance. Not all chemicals are water soluable though, and i used vodka just to help keep any bacteria out (but if i wanted to use this method with something non-water soluable like AMT, i would have to use some kind of alcohol for sure). So then we just measure how however many mL we need for a "dose" and mix it into some kind of drink and down it.
Yaesu..ahh yes, those amateur radio days..i got bored with that and started up a pirate FM station til the FCC slapped me with a "fine", although they haven't taken my worthless ham license away yet, oh no, i sure hope they dont! haha.
Ok back to the topic (well this is only about 2c-i), me and two friends all tried 18mg 2C-I yesterday, since the weather was nice and sunny, 70 degrees out. There were more visuals than the previous time with 14mg. Mostly colors enhanced, things looked "plastic" or cartoonish, a lot of waving, flowing, everything was moving/morphing around, although all of our heads were clear, we all felt we could have done a little more, like 20-22mg. We walked around streets, a park, over a freeway over pass watching cars fly by, and laid around in the yard staring at the clouds watching them morph into wierd shapes/faces. Then we decided, time to smoke some weed and boost up these visuals. After the bong session we went back outside, and started playing this game with these kids balls, we had 5 different colored balls all different sizes, bouncing them off the roof and we had to catch which ever one came to us and throw it back up before another one hit us. We all felt like kids, came up with this simple stupid game with no word-communication, just a lot of laughing. It kinda felt like i was in a video game, the way the balls and everything would look visually. We all sat down again, and i would stare at the wood deck and i got such a wierd insight, watching all the "cells and shit" move around in my mind, making up the picture i see, i felt that "I", am like a big corporation, the head boss, the brain, which controls all of these smaller groups and jobs in my body, which work all together to make up "ME". Then i realised its just like what we do in life, work together in jobs, socialize, etc. to make up a "bigger" "life form". Only we aren't normally aware that there is higher life, because all of the parts of our body dont know what/why they are doing their job, they just do it, like we go about our "game of life", we think of ourselves as living things, we draw lines on what is/isn't life, but really there's no such definition of "life". I was staring in one spot on the deck, and staring deep into it, and watching all these clearly defined circular/oval shaped things move around in what looked like different layers, looking like a bunch of organism's working together to figure out what i am seeing. Amazing visual clarity, but not much "mind fuck", 2C-I mostly reminds me of LSD, just with less "mind fuck" and different duration of time. I've gotten way more "mind fuck" and crazy visuals on 5-meo-dipt. I'm not all THAT impressed with 2C-I, if it is really supposed to be better than 2C-B, then i probably wouldn't care too much for 2C-B. 2C-I at 18mg, wasn't "intense" enough, i'll try a little more next time. The best part is, that there isn't any nausea, nasty body effects, it feels like acid/shrooms in this way, no annoying barfing or other effects to get in the way :)
 
2C-I is a wonderful material, definitely one of my favorites. I enjoy its gentle action. Good clean 'mind-expander'. I don't know what else to say. I have a few trip reports on 2C-I at erowid. Those do a much better job of speaking for me and what 2C-I does when I take it.
BTW, 2C-I and 2C-B are not that much alike. This is from my studies,a s well as conversations with people who are familier with both. 2C-B is more of a sensory drug, where as 2C-I tends to be more of a 'deep-thinking', internal experience. The two substances do seem to take you to different spaces.
 
In spite of what MGS said, most people I've spoken to who are very familiar with 2C-B say that 2C-I is damn similar... about as different as Valium is from Xanax. 2C-I is longer lasting and not quite as visual, but the effects are quite similar. Ann Shulgin has said that in her clinical experience, the two drugs are virtually interchangable.
 
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