• Find All Reports by Search Term
    Find Reports
    Find Tagged Reports by Substance
    Substance Category
    Specific Substance
    Find Reports
  • Trip Reports Moderator: Cheshire_Kat

250mg mescaline hcl + 250ug (mics) of 25i-NBOme

tregar

Bluelighter
Joined
Apr 26, 2004
Messages
601
Location
bottom of the sea
Trip report with 250mg of mescaline + 250ug of HPBCD complexed 25i-nbome.

Later in the night, (after the effects of a "test-dosage" of 80mg mescaline + 200ug of HPBCD complexed 25i-nbome had completely worn off some 6 hours later)....then boosted the mescaline dose to 250mg and added 250ug of HPBCD complexed 25i-nbome under tongue again for 20 minutes at 1am in the morning. ++++ experience, with this combined dosage lasting a full 8 hours, took 2 ben*dryls to finally fall asleep at 9 in the morning, eyes closed even this late in the morning, seeing Chinese dragons, complex machinery, just went on and on, one image after another.

The visuals unlike with 25i-nbome alone, made perfect sense when combined with mescaline, way more visually powerful than acid, with eyes closed saw brightly lit landscapes of un-imaginable beauty Japanese in origin, geometrics spinning in neon green, purple, blue, I felt like Shulgin had said in his mescaline entry in PIHKAL, nothing seemed more important than getting closer to God. Feel immense Love & peace and Joy and the visuals are second to none, indescribable beauty and complexity, mind space of acid + mescaline combined. No other psychedelics ever needed, this is the ultimate combination imho. I can't even begin to describe the open-eyed visuals, looking at just a rock caused me to see an ocean of things inside it. Heaphones on the whole time, music another world entirely. At one point, in my peripheral vision, the tv screen went from dull to bright and it was so dramatic it seemed as if another portal to a new dimension was opened. So much open-eyed "meaningful" visual activity going on I can't even begin to describe, so very very powerful. Layers of the self exposed like peeling an onion, deep memories recalled. Absolutely no side effects, no nausea, no GI upset, no nothing, no rapid heart, in fact felt better than 25i-nbome alone. I felt a tiny hint of very faint nausea when the mescaline kicked in for a short while (10 to 15 minutes), that was it.

In my opinion, this is the only way to take 25i-nbome, along with mescaline, the experience being even more visual than 550ug of 25i-nbome alone...not only that but a guide becomes apparent for the trip, becomes just as "mind-manifesting" as acid with deep meaning and complexity, highly spiritual. It's the only way I will do it in the future.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

After studying all the different 5-HT receptor sites on wikipedia and at neruopharmacology sites, I discovered that 5-HT6 agonism (provided by 25i-nbome) also leads to activation of cAMP signalling pathways through adenylate cyclase stimulation, 5-HT6 agonism also stimulates pro-cognitive activities. This is similar to 5-HT7 stimulation provided by the mystically popular DMT, 5-MEO-DMT, and LSD. 5-HT7 receptor affinity stimulates cAMP activity and the reward system, seeming to be implicated in overall transcendent psychedelic action. The mystically popular Mescaline, psilocin & DMT have significant affinity for 5-HT1A receptors.

25i agonizes the following receptors [the lower the number, the greater the affinity]
5-HT2A (0.044), 5-HT2C (2), 5-HT6 (73), 5-HT2B (231), u opiate (82), kappa opiate [288]

Mescaline agonizes the following receptors [4.00 = maximum affinity, 0.00 = no affinity]:
Alpha2c (4.00), 5-HT2B (3.97), 5-HT1A (3.61) Imidazoline1 (3.44), 5-HT1E (3.16), alpha 2a (2.92) and very poorly agonizes 5-HT2A & 5-HT2C.

So in other words, 25i-nbome + mescaline looks like this as far as affinity agonism:

5-HT2A, Alpha2c, 5-HT2B, 5-HT2C, 5-HT1A, 5-HT1E, 5-HT6, u opiate, kappa opiate, Imidazoline1, alpha2a.

(Imidazoline1 agonism lowers blood pressure similar to Clonidine)
 
Tregar, what do you think about combining 25C and 25I in an HPBCD complex? I still have to explore them both on their own at different doses, but I feel like the combination might really shine. I was thinking around 250mcg of each as my starting point and then play around with the ratio from there.
 
Thanks Fagott and JBrandon for the responses and questions, much appreciated.

I have been searching for literally years for a psychedelic that would give me the same trip as an acid trip, but without having to take acid, acid was becoming not only hard to find, but expensive to boot.

This trip costs only pennies and gave imho the same trip as an acid trip, only more visual and a bit more sensual due to the mescaline influence. When you overlap 25i-nbome and mescaline receptor profiles, you end up with a total receptor profile that looks VERY similar to LSD-25 receptor profile for 5-HT.

I say JBrandon, experiment to your heart's content, 25c and 25i should make an excellent combo with 250mcg of each for starts!

If you ever get a chance my friend, extract some mescaline (I have 3.5 grams to work with from my last extraction) and add it to your nbome trip, you will find it will then become deeply complex mentally just like acid in every way, and the visuals will be modulated by the mescaline to become quite meaningful to flow along 100% with your mental activity.

I cried 5 times in tears of happiness because at last during that combo trip, as I feel I had been blessed by a divine power for the answer to my prayers. There is no way I could have figured it out on my own, a higher power was at work I feel. Years of work and searching finally answered, I give my highest thanks.

Go to wikipedia under "LSD" and go down midway, and look at the affinity profile graph, then compare to my findings in my first post here for 25i-nbome + mescaline affinity, I think you will be fascinated.
 
Last edited:
Just wanted to add that I attempted to replicate this setup, but using escaline instead of mescaline (nbome and escaline kept moderately dosed - 250 mcg resp 40 mg) and had a very pleasant, calm and reflective - even full - evening - much more "oomph" and fullness than from escaline or nbome-2c-x on their own.
 
Top